Modifying Your Car Could Be Against The Law...

[truckofwinandawesome]

That's not much different than what an independent shop has to do for regular passenger cars. The high end scan tools can be $10k or more and updates are thousands of dollars.

 

and yet, you can pick up a GENUINE Tech 2 on Ebay for as little as $400

[MikeNH]

 

and yet, you can pick up a GENUINE Tech 2 on Ebay for as little as $400

Pretty sure the Tech II is obsolete now. And as I understand it, getting updates can be questionable.

[GLSierra13]

I don't see how this agreement really changes much of anything for the average Joe.

 

The agreement states: "The MOU addresses our need for reasonable access to OEM service information and diagnostic tools... with the goal of helping to ensure that vehicles are properly and safely maintained with the correct parts and tools." (Does that also include the 'correct' software?)

 

That's the caveat, "properly and safely maintained with the correct parts and tools." Sure, we'd continue to have choices on where to have our vehicles repaired and maintained and will be "allowed" to work on it ourselves but the agreement does not address modifications whatsoever. All the manufacturer would have to do is argue that any deviation from the specifications of original equipment, parts, software, etc., (a tune or a lift kit?), is outside of being "properly and safely maintained and repaired with the correct parts and tools" and we're screwed. (Will part of this agreement include a requirement that the independent repair shop report back to the OEM about any mods?)

 

OEM's are not going to agree to this if there is not a loophole for them. Just my take on it. Hopefully I'm just being too cynical.

[SnakeEyeSS]

Your right. Sorry. Just a picture before I get off of this. A pic says a thousand words....

 

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Thats happened in Tulsa? (Found this http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=2298667&nocache=1442606109876 )Don't remember seeing that story before. OUCH!

[Tattooo]

The govt makes everything against the law.......lol [emoji6]

[sprayed99]

I guess you shouldn't be allowed to renovate your house either...SMH

[Cowpie]

You can't, without first obtaining a building permit and meeting all the building code requirements for your area. Some places are down right ridiculous on this kind of thing. One of the reasons I live out in the country. Home Owner Associations are the worse. You cannot even stain your fence without Association approval. And forget about any major changes to the structure.

[Chris]

You can't, without first obtaining a building permit and meeting all the building code requirements for your area. Some places are down right ridiculous on this kind of thing. One of the reasons I live out in the country. Home Owner Associations are the worse. You cannot even stain your fence without Association approval. And forget about any major changes to the structure.

Think smaller like installing one of these

[Cowpie]

Some municipalities already have building code stuff that even doesn't allow a home owner to replace a electrical outlet without building code approval. A bit extreme, to say the least, but some municipalities are really goofy.

[Cowpie]

Update on the previous link I posted regarding cooperation between OEM's and third parties. Again, covers commercial trucks right now, but most likely a blueprint for smaller vehicle OEM's in the future.

 

http://www.ccjdigital.com/more-on-right-to-repair-agreement-what-it-means-that-non-oem-shops-have-access-to-repair-info/?utm_source=daily&utm_medium=email&utm_content=09-22-2015&utm_campaign=Commercial%20Carrier%20Journal&ust_id=480221824f761d3e1f8cedd4a1049565&

[sprayed99]

You can't, without first obtaining a building permit and meeting all the building code requirements for your area. Some places are down right ridiculous on this kind of thing. One of the reasons I live out in the country. Home Owner Associations are the worse. You cannot even stain your fence without Association approval. And forget about any major changes to the structure.

We design and build houses I'm fully aware of what has to be done. building codes are universal throughout the US it just matters which year IRC the city/county uses. As far as HOAs are concerned, they are very easy to deal with if you follow the HOA guidelines. We deal with them on a daily basis and its 3 minutes of paperwork.

[barry G]

this might be interesting

New Copyright exemptions

 

I was for protecting that stuff..

but I am a culprit. Overclocking to 1013mhz in 1999 was a big scary deal too..

Anyway, I burnt a pcm with a quick blip short on a MAF, old 80s injected subaru. Extinct already by 2006 when I was working one..

took the cover off against all rules and found the cheap resistor that fried. My 10 cent replacement gained 30hp.

 

It was foolish to think "hacking" was by bad people.

Now if you tube would leave my choice of music finds alone.. I am not exactly going for billionare.

[Cowpie]

Either way, I don't suffer from an enlarged paranoia gland, so any ideas about illegalities on doing anything to my vehicles really doesn't bother me. I modify all my commercial semi trucks, and I will do whatever I want to my personal stuff also. Sure, might void a warranty, but we'll see if that is an issue when the time comes. An OEM can claim whatever "ownership" of anything in a vehicle they want, but until they are giving me a vehicle for free, they don't have much standing to tell me what I can or cannot do with it. And I can't even recall the last time I took a personal vehicle to any dealership for anything after I bought it. I loath dealership shops and don't use them. Not even a so-called "free" oil change, which for me and my situation, would cost me over $1000 for a "free" oil change.