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Do you have the part numbers for the sensor, lines, hoses and clips?

Flex Fuel Sensor - 13577429

Flex Fuel Sensor Clip - 20967866

Flex hose/fuel line (towards engine) - 23171538

Flex hose/fuel line (towards fuel tank) - 20967834

Fuel line (towards engine) - 23171532

Fuel line (towards fuel tank) - 23158923

Fuel line clips - 15168646

 

Note, the Fuel line towards engine is different depending on CC, DC, S, etc. The part number above didn't work for my CC Short Box, so Carl modified it to make it work.

 

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Flex Fuel Sensor - 13577429

Flex Fuel Sensor Clip - 20967866

Flex hose/fuel line (towards engine) - 23171538

Flex hose/fuel line (towards fuel tank) - 20967834

Fuel line (towards engine) - 23171532

Fuel line (towards fuel tank) - 23158923

Fuel line clips - 15168646

Note, the Fuel line towards engine is different depending on CC, DC, S, etc. The part number above didn't work for my CC Short Box, so Carl modified it to make it work.

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Thanks

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jesus nice numbers. that was with a HP tune? interesting and wow at e85 numbers

HP Tuners, yep.

 

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Those are great numbers. I would be curious as to whether you gas mileage changes with your new tune. I am sure since you are using E85 there will be no way to compare.

 

I have HP Tuners but I am not nearly good enough with it to attempt to screw around with it on this truck. I used it on my 70 vette to get it in "The ballpark". There is still work to do on the 70 but it runs and will burn the tires off of it. It could be better at cold engine temps. Its awful in those areas till it warms up.

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After a few tanks of e85, I'll run a few tanks of 91 and report back.

 

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Those are great numbers. I would be curious as to whether you gas mileage changes with your new tune. I am sure since you are using E85 there will be no way to compare.

 

I have HP Tuners but I am not nearly good enough with it to attempt to screw around with it on this truck. I used it on my 70 vette to get it in "The ballpark". There is still work to do on the 70 but it runs and will burn the tires off of it. It could be better at cold engine temps. Its awful in those areas till it warms up.

Yeah it will change. For the worse because you won't be able to keep your foot off the floor or the smile off your face!

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What tuner are you using? Did you get it tuned locally?

 

HP Tuners, local tune. Tuners info/shop are in the first post if interested.

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I have been on the fence about tuning my truck but these numbers are so very tempting. Especially since my last 3 trucks were 6.2 and my last 2 cars were srt challenger and mustang gt. The 5.3 feels a little slow compared to those!

 

Also i did a little research involving drivetrain loss. 15% like myself and most everyone i know thinks is wrong. Obviously it varies by vehicle but most vehicles have 20%+ from what i was reading.

 

What is done to the truck besides tune? Is the airaid just a basic CAI?

 

Parasitic loss isn't as complicated as it seems to be - the more mechanical moving parts you have, and the larger they are & the larger the distances they need to rotate/travel, then the more loss you will have.

Corvette - 2 seater, short wheelbase, transaxle (distance from engine to where the axle mates is quite short), no torque converter manual tranny, = low parasitic loss, maybe 13-17%

 

Large RWD sedan w/ traditional torque converter style automatic tranny like a charger or chevy SS = driveshaft longer distance from engine to rear axle compared to vette, torque converter absorbing some of the engine's power, etc. = 18-22% loss

 

Boosted AWD car like a subie STi - turning all 4 wheels ALL the time w/ center diff but has manual tranny = 18-22% loss, if equipped w/ auto = 22-25% loss

 

Truck w/ long ass heavy ass beefy driveshaft, heavy beefy rear axle, 4WD components, beefier heavier duty clutch components in the tranny/converter = 25% loss

 

My Z06 vette only "lost" 11.1% of its HP on a relatively stingy mustang dyno in stock form - 360whp, rated @ 405....realistically that car probably made closer to something like 415-420hp in stock form which would put that figure more like 14-15% loss.

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Parasitic loss isn't as complicated as it seems to be - the more mechanical moving parts you have, and the larger they are & the larger the distances they need to rotate/travel, then the more loss you will have.

Corvette - 2 seater, short wheelbase, transaxle (distance from engine to where the axle mates is quite short), no torque converter manual tranny, = low parasitic loss, maybe 13-17%

 

Large RWD sedan w/ traditional torque converter style automatic tranny like a charger or chevy SS = driveshaft longer distance from engine to rear axle compared to vette, torque converter absorbing some of the engine's power, etc. = 18-22% loss

 

Boosted AWD car like a subie STi - turning all 4 wheels ALL the time w/ center diff but has manual tranny = 18-22% loss, if equipped w/ auto = 22-25% loss

 

Truck w/ long ass heavy ass beefy driveshaft, heavy beefy rear axle, 4WD components, beefier heavier duty clutch components in the tranny/converter = 25% loss

 

My Z06 vette only "lost" 11.1% of its HP on a relatively stingy mustang dyno in stock form - 360whp, rated @ 405....realistically that car probably made closer to something like 415-420hp in stock form which would put that figure more like 14-15% loss.

 

Well said. I know in the G8, I lost about 18% when I calculated it out.

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I am the one who dynoed and tuned the truck. The baseline tune was slightly lower than I anticipated. I actually made 4 pulls stock and the graph the OP posted was the highest number. Keep in mind that this truck was dynoed in 3rd gear (1.53:1) to keep wheel speed down which will reduce numbers slightly as well.

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I am the one who dynoed and tuned the truck. The baseline tune was slightly lower than I anticipated. I actually made 4 pulls stock and the graph the OP posted was the highest number. Keep in mind that this truck was dynoed in 3rd gear (1.53:1) to keep wheel speed down which will reduce numbers slightly as well.

Well you did a good job it looks like! My comment on stock numbers was based on an expectation with no research or education before my comment. Just an old rule of thumb that is absolutely not perfect.

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I am the one who dynoed and tuned the truck. The baseline tune was slightly lower than I anticipated. I actually made 4 pulls stock and the graph the OP posted was the highest number. Keep in mind that this truck was dynoed in 3rd gear (1.53:1) to keep wheel speed down which will reduce numbers slightly as well.

 

Have you tuned a L86 on e85 yet? Really curious to see some results of someone converting their new 6.2 to E85. I would love to convert over someday.

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