Autonomous Braking Is Coming To All GMs. The Upside

[Nargg]

I'm all for this. But, I do have reservations. I saw a video the other day (tried to find it again, couldn't, will try later too) where they were showing a Ford with automatic braking causing all kinds of havoc and braking where it was not needed and keeping the driver from getting out of bad situations. So, there's obviously a lot of work to be done yet. Of course 2022 is still a long way off too. Plus, I'm afraid we might see drivers stop using their brakes manually. Instead just letting the car stop itself every time. These braking systems are intended for emergency situations, not a full replacement for human interaction. So these drivers may put all of us at risk by driving less aware and as careful as they should. Anyway, looking forward to how this may work out in the future. One other video I'd love to find was the one where a GM exec was predicting laws requiring autonomous cars by 2040+ and autonomous becoming the rule rather than the exception.

[Wolfmanjohn]

And then we have the impaired driver with a substance abuse problem. A system like this would allow them to slither behind the wheel and get away with driving like that just one more time (and one more, and one after that) until the really, really big tragic event happens.

[Shawn5800]

I know you all see it every week like I do. Someone driving by in the fast lane, head straight down for a 1/8 mile staring into their phones. Can you imagine how much this will be amplified if the car is actually braking for people? I am actually surprised at how much enthusiasm there is for this technology.

 

Walk into a restaurant and look around, how many people are actually focusing on making conversation with their peers? Most are probably enthralled in their phones. It is no secret, new technology is making big changes in younger generations.

 

I think you have to look into the future, this is not only a huge technology change. It will be a paradigm shift if it keeps gaining popularity.

[backwarduck]

Yeah, sure, as soon as GM learns how to program their transmissions to function properly, then we'll consider letting them tune this system.

 

Or if they could only fix the DEF problem! Good point Newell33!

[kstruckcountry]

I thought of another thing today. This technology will embolden pedestrians to walk across traffic whenever they like.

 

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[StinkyCheese]

I thought of another thing today. This technology will embolden pedestrians to walk across traffic whenever they like.

 

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Don't they do that already?

[kstruckcountry]

All you'll have to do to steal a car is walk in front of it....

 

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[sahls01gmc]

There are a lot of people who shouldn't be driving. I'm a big fan of making CDL's mandatory for coach size RV's as well.

I can't stress this one enough. I have no idea how an 80 year old person can drive a 40,000lb rig down the road with just a common driver's license. They shouldn't be driving the motorized shopping cart at the store, let alone anything the size of a house!

[Karlie Place]

People should learn how to drive properly and pay attention and we wouldn’t need this. Our generation is becoming so lazy and this kind of technology is just saying that’s okay. Don’t rely on technology, gain the skill you should have to drive properly.

 

You are easily able to keep a 3 second distance to the person in front, you control the gas.

 

You can speed up when you pass the car in front of you safely on your own.

 

If you can’t pay attention and obey the rules of the road and do so safely... you shouldn’t be driving

[The Zip]

 

Before I could react, the Acura I was in applied full braking. I'm almost certain it prevented me from hitting the pickup ahead of me who also was in full panic braking mode. All of the other lanes also had a car stopped I was not on the phone. I was alone in the car and paying attention. Still, the system saw a situation better than I could, and it helped me.

 

 

IIHS conducted a three-year study comparing the same vehicles with and without forward collision prevention and found that the vehicles with it crashed into vehicles ahead of them about 40% less. They estimate that if all vehicles had the system it would prevent 700,000 crashes - each year.

OP tests vehicles every week and never rear-ended anyone in 30 years, an excellent driver could be doing everything right. Totally ok with the posters that don’t want the technology for their specific reason, but don’t look at this as you being one of the 700K rear-ending someone, look at it as 700K folks that didn’t run into you?

 

 

 

Most are probably enthralled in their phones. It is no secret, new technology is making big changes in younger generations.

Smart devices is probably a primary reason this technology was created, but it’s not just the younger generation.

[StinkyCheese]

People should learn how to drive properly and pay attention and we wouldn’t need this. Our generation is becoming so lazy and this kind of technology is just saying that’s okay. Don’t rely on technology, gain the skill you should have to drive properly.

 

You are easily able to keep a 3 second distance to the person in front, you control the gas.

 

You can speed up when you pass the car in front of you safely on your own.

 

If you can’t pay attention and obey the rules of the road and do so safely... you shouldn’t be driving

What's "fun" is UPS teaches their drivers to do 4-6 seconds under 30mph and 6-8 seconds above 30mph. Sometimes it makes you feel like you're going backwards in traffic lol.

[Cap'n Hook]

OP lists the very problem with this technology in his summary. The problem will be the people behind you not paying attention that don't have this technology in their car. And older vehicles AREN'T just going to magically get this technology adapted into them.

[Jsdirt]

I get the apprehension, but I also remember when power windows, automatic transmissions, push button 4WD were scary technologies to be shied away from...

Just sayin'.

 

Yep, and those are all the first things to fail on a older, used vehicle.

 

If crank windows, manual 4x4 & transmissions were still the norm (and if the body and bumpers were built like the 1930's) , you could buy ONE vehicle and keep it your entire life. Imagine the money you'd save ...

 

 

 

 

Like I said in another thread of similar technology, and like many have said in these threads, we're creating more mindless dolts that would be completely clueless driving anything built before traction control. There seems to be a trend with government to grasp control over every single aspect of your life - this is a prime example of the vehicle to make that a reality. There is NO WAY you'll EVER see me behind the wheel of a vehicle like this. Just imagine what could happen once that wiring is exposed to a decade of road salt and potholes here in Massachusetts! I can see trying to get to the hospital in a life-or-death emergency, and the brakes jam on by themselves because the road was a little bumpy ... or a bird flew in front of the vehicle ... or I made a fast right turn ...

 

Ben Franklin stated in 1755, "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. HEAR! HEAR! The man was a true visionary.

 

Anything that takes control away from the driver goes against everything this country was founded upon. People have become coddled, pampered poodles who need to be cared for from cradle to grave. Personal responsibility has been tossed out the window, and there's even a movement today to remove your Second Amendment right. I can't believe how emasculated our society has become. Such a warped world we live in today. What the hell are people thinking?? Our Founders would be sick to their stomachs if they could see how far we have fallen in just 240 years.

 

 

 

 

 

This situation is yet another reason to built my own vehicles, and live far away from everyone else. I could rant about this all day long, but I have other things I need to be doing ...

 

 

 

[Shawn5800]

I have to agree with JS-Dirt here.

 

Car manufacturers are trying to make these automation systems the new standard. Eventually, after all the older cars are rotted and gone, we will be left with these automated ones.

 

 

Who ultimately makes the decision that we as a society are ok with automation controlling CRUCIAL vehicle systems?

 

Again, this is not technology advancement, it's a paradigm shift.

 

JS is also spot on about the salt states. You want to see rapid wear and increased failure rates on anything from mechanical, body, electrical to even rubber? Come to the salt states!

 

Again, call me pessimistic but integrity has to be questioned.

[Badass69]

I can't wait for this junk to fail and get someone killed or seriously injured... oh wait... you will never hear about it. They better up the ante in their tech as my front park sensors never work after leaving a car wash in the winter or driving in snow. And it better not be like the Ford trucks that lock up the brakes while passing through the shadow of a big truck. New tech is fine.... in sunny southern California.... and they can keep it there thank you.

 

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