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Perhaps. Sales numbers dont lie.

 

http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2015/07/junes-fastest-and-slowest-selling-pickups.html

http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2013/04/is-the-regular-cab-pickup-doomed.html

 

Well I led a shelter life I guess. I spent 40 years in a family business. We build and sell tree clearing machines. 99 percent of the people we deal with want the most HP in the smallest package. Their p/u reflects that attitude. They go from top of the line trucks with the big engines or striped trucks with the biggest engines. The top of the line includes all brands, the striped are mostly Rams and Hemis because there offered in striped models.

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I don't think it's fair to compare the Ford Lightning or even Dodge Ram SRT10 as Reg Cab big engine. They were both a special build (SVT or SRT) that was not an option the the basic configuration of the trucks and cost a crap ton more.

 

 

 

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True, but put itin perspective, dis the lightning outsell the current Raptor?

 

I don't think it's fair to compare the Ford Lightning or even Dodge Ram SRT10 as Reg Cab big engine. They were both a special build (SVT or SRT) that was not an option the the basic configuration of the trucks and cost a crap ton more.

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The fist article show reg cabs doing ok due to fleet sales ( probably what I see) the second says they may go away. I'm retired now so a reg cab isn't in my future. I drive a mid sized SUV and a hot rod truck for fun. The wife drives a full sized 4 door car and a sport car for fun. So we cover all bases.

 

 

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Actually the first article shows only one RC model selling which was the then new F-150 and if you read between the lines, was mostly fleet sales. Other RC models were 4 of the bottom 10 for slowest selling models.

 

The second article says it cost manufacturers as much to build RC models as CC and EC models, thus very little price difference between them....i figure yet another reason RCs dont sell....a cheap model is like a unicorn when you can get a CC or EC for around the same price, plus factor in the EPA hit due to footprint of the vehicle. It doesnt make sense for manufacturers to guild what doesn't sell and cause them to miss EPA standards.

 

The fist article show reg cabs doing ok due to fleet sales ( probably what I see) the second says they may go away. I'm retired now so a reg cab isn't in my future. I drive a mid sized SUV and a hot rod truck for fun. The wife drives a full sized 4 door car and a sport car for fun. So we cover all bases.

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Talking about marketing strategies, fuel prices and regular cabs is moving away from the OP's question but I suspect he has his answer. With respect to recent sub-topics I am assuming GM knows more about marketing than the average truck buyer. I've owned a few regular cab pickups, a few super/extended cabs and a couple of crew cabs. It is no mystery to me why regular cabs are the least popular and could go the way of the manual transmission. People like me have visions of the most desirable truck which is often different than what money and practicality allows us to buy. I don't like the idea of not having the choice but unless there is a substantial cost saving, the RC will continue to decline in popularity. Diesels, like large V8's, are very sensitive to fuel prices. A sharp increase could see the 6.2 reduce its fan base. If you prefer a regular cab the 5.3 has much more power than you will need and a lot left over.

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Actually the first article shows only one RC model selling which was the then new F-150 and if you read between the lines, was mostly fleet sales. Other RC models were 4 of the bottom 10 for slowest selling models.

 

 

You would expect that really, they are more like personal vehicles. My point all alone was that they would be cheap hot rods, cheaper than V8 pony cars by about 20K. Couple of ads during NASCAR races bam you're going. 13 second 1/4 mile low 5s 0-60 all for 25K you couldn't keep them on the lot. You could put a shell on it pipe heat and air back there bolt down some seats put the kids back there. They get noisy slide the window shut quite ride. All for cheap who needs a mini van too noisy.

 

 

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I think a hot rod truck 20+ years ago made sense versus a muscle car, but truck prices have sky rocketted since then, and again we are talking about the current market trends versus what we wished they once were. The topic of how much a RC would fly off the shelf if they threw a 6.2 in it reminds me of the conversation that manual trucks would fly off the shelf if they only made more of them, truth be told we know one is wishful thinking and one is factual to which GM and all the other manufacturers spend way more money and resources than any one of us here collecting data points as to what really sells. I think we rail roaded the topic enough...redirecting back to the original topic at hand.

 

You would expect that really, they are more like personal vehicles. My point all alone was that they would be cheap hot rods, cheaper than V8 pony cars by about 20K. Couple of ads during NASCAR races bam you're going. 13 second 1/4 mile low 5s 0-60 all for 25K you couldn't keep them on the lot. You could put a shell on it pipe heat and air back there bolt down some seats put the kids back there. They get noisy slide the window shut quite ride. All for cheap who needs a mini van too noisy.

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If you had to choose...

 

Hmmm Red bill or Blue Pill

 

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Well, even though y'all said I should build a 6.2L RCSB, I am currently waiting to go "back to finance" to wrap up the purchase of a CCSB LTZ Z71 with a 6.2. Numbers have already been done, so hopefully it's painless. Pics once I get out of here...

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Well, even though y'all said I should build a 6.2L RCSB, I am currently waiting to go "back to finance" to wrap up the purchase of a CCSB LTZ Z71 with a 6.2. Numbers have already been done, so hopefully it's painless. Pics once I get out of here...

'Very excited for you! Congratulations!

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Here's the obligatory dealer picture.


Total time spent in the dealership was under 2.5 hours. That includes about 30 minutes early in the day for a quick test drive, and an hour and 45 minutes later in the afternoon with sales/finance. Tons of emails over the last few days/weeks with dealers all up and down the East coast, and I ended up getting the deal I wanted about 20 minutes from home. I really appreciate all of the input in this thread, and whoever it was who said not to settle was right. I got literally everything on my checklist with this one.


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