Everyone look what I found

15_silverado · April 15, 2017

I have no problems with gm reselling the truck, but the trucks history needs to be accurately recorded; and depending on its history that should affect it's value.

GM certainly had all the opportunities to report it's history accurately, one section of the Carfax history says "installed wheel locks" and when you get further down, to the dates they had given me service records that said "frame needs to be replaced", in that section it just says "vehicle serviced". If they can record installing wheel locks, don't you think they should record frame damage. Total scam!

The only buyback related paperwork work I signed was a settlement letter from the BBB detailing the moneys agreement between GM and myself.

Carfax didn't just take my word for it, that it was a buyback, they looked back in DMV records and found it for themselves. Nowhere, that I see does it say I reported it. And if it did, I could care less, you people are way too scared of GM and their lawyers, that's redickulous, get a life or grow some balls and stop letting people walk all over you and others.

If the dealer who has the truck now honestly doesn't know about it's history that's because GM deliberately covered it up, and that's a total scam and when they find out GM will have to pay for it and hopefully change their ways. If the dealer who has it does know it's history; then they are scamming their customers to ask full retail for a Lemon/buyback with frame damage. It's unacceptable either way, and I'm not afraid to report the truth, so whoever buys that truck at least knows what they're buying and pays a fair market value for that truck.

Dnt · April 15, 2017

Money

BIG MONEY

muddkatt · April 16, 2017

Bob, unless Carfax is a subsidiary of GM, you can't blame GM for a "cover up". I am sure that Carfax has the same quality of employees that most businesses have. That is hidden code that actually means a load of incompetent people looking for a pay check. They only report what they find through normal data gathering and then they might not list everything in detail.

I have enough to keep me busy without attempting to play super hero on issues that no longer involve me. If I were in your shoes, I would forget about the truck unless a buyer were to contact you for feedback.

Thomcat · April 16, 2017

Just checked the Carfax and it appears the OP didn't even own the vehicle......according to the report it was a personal lease which is a fancy term for a long term rental. So how could there even be a buyback? Who gives a crap about a leased vehicle, don't like it , dump it? All GM really did was take back their vehicle and lease him another one, probably forgoing early termination penalties. If it went through GMAC they likely already made their money in the first few month's payments.

My sister did a buyback on an '04 Chrysler Crossfire (a captive Mercedes) with electrical gremlins that even stumped the Germans. She bought it cash and owned it outright. And with no crying to the State or BBB, just 5 tries at repair working with her dealer, Chrysler issued her a voucher for the MSRP, not the actual purchase price, of the vehicle good against any Chrysler product at any Chrysler dealer in the US. And she was free to take advantage of any concurrent rebates, if any, available at the time of re-purchase.....ended up buying an '05 Crossfire with more accessories in it as an even swap.....that's a real buy back! And she could give a $hit about the fate of that Crossfire.

Binobanbino · April 17, 2017

Just checked the Carfax and it appears the OP didn't even own the vehicle......according to the report it was a personal lease which is a fancy term for a long term rental. So how could there even be a buyback? Who gives a crap about a leased vehicle, don't like it , dump it? All GM really did was take back their vehicle and lease him another one, probably forgoing early termination penalties. If it went through GMAC they likely already made their money in the first few month's payments.

My sister did a buyback on an '04 Chrysler Crossfire (a captive Mercedes) with electrical gremlins that even stumped the Germans. She bought it cash and owned it outright. And with no crying to the State or BBB, just 5 tries at repair working with her dealer, Chrysler issued her a voucher for the MSRP, not the actual purchase price, of the vehicle good against any Chrysler product at any Chrysler dealer in the US. And she was free to take advantage of any concurrent rebates, if any, available at the time of re-purchase.....ended up buying an '05 Crossfire with more accessories in it as an even swap.....that's a real buy back! And she could give a $hit about the fate of that Crossfire.

Yes it was a lease but do you really think there was no money involved? That shows how some can be so closed minded. I traded in a vehicle and put a lot down ( i wanted low payments) I was going to buy the truck after the lease was up. Im sorry I am not your family that can just outright pay off a vehicle.

Getting back to what GM had done. Yes they baught back the vehicle and returned me the money I was entitled to. But to sell it after knowing it has issues that can't be repaired is shocking. GM was never put down. It was just pointed out what has occurred.

As for as the leased vehicle goes you can't just dump it you have an obligation to pay for it until the lease terms is completed. Gets your facts stright.

So calm down and go pay off another vehicle and give them a good bounes. I rather give them my money slowly and keep my money invested in other things.

dmax_highcountry · April 17, 2017

A buy back can be performed whether its a lease or not. People are out a lot of money regardless of how they acquired the vehicle.

Long story short, I do not see any issue with the OP posting a link to his previously leased truck. Good looking out. If I were close to the dealer, I would stop in to see what BS story they give on the Carfax hit.

BigBadSierra · April 17, 2017

Well it's still looks better then when I found my old 2010 Traverse we had traded.

When I had it.

What the new owners did to it.

Binobanbino · April 17, 2017

A buy back can be performed whether its a lease or not. People are out a lot of money regardless of how they acquired the vehicle.

Long story short, I do not see any issue with the OP posting a link to his previously leased truck. Good looking out. If I were close to the dealer, I would stop in to see what BS story they give on the Carfax hit.

Thank you. I was just pointing it out. I was performing a public service.

Binobanbino · April 17, 2017

Well it's still looks better then when I found my old 2010 Traverse we had traded.

When I had it.

What the new owners did to it.

Ouch!

Thomcat · April 17, 2017

Leases are a scam perpetrated on car buyers who can afford to buy a vehicle outright or pay off their vehicle using a term loan. A lease enables an individual to rent a vehicle they cannot afford or do not wish to purchase in essence creating competition for those that can, e.g. a person who can afford to buy to own a Spark, for the same monthly payment plan and period of time, another can lease a Silverado in essence raising the price for all Silverado buyers. Remember that next time you complain that they cost over $50K.

Binobanbino · April 17, 2017

Leases are a scam perpetrated on car buyers who can afford to buy a vehicle outright or pay off their vehicle using a term loan. A lease enables an individual to rent a vehicle they cannot afford or do not wish to purchase in essence creating competition for those that can, e.g. a person who can afford to buy to own a Spark, for the same monthly payment plan and period of time, another can lease a Silverado in essence raising the price for all Silverado buyers. Remember that next time you complain that they cost over $50K.

You're delusional. Leasing a vehicle has been out forever. Leasing will never ever raise the prices of vehicles. Options and features are what the increase in prices represent.

Can we stay on topic? I just pointed something out and now your talking about other things.

TxTruckMan · April 17, 2017

Apparently it is impossible to call Carfax, they purposely list no phone number, and state they only communicate through email.

I did email them about my buyback truck, that is currently for sale at another dealer, most importantly that it says there was no structural damage; while I had a service print out that stated " the frame needs to be replaced" from the dealer. So, will see if or how they respond.

I bent frame bracket is not really that big of a deal unless there's a safety problem with it. Nearly every used car out there has some type of problem with it - cosmetic or other. You might have felt differently because you bought it NEW, but a buyer buying a used vehicle won't have the same expectations nor will they get the same quality as you did.

johniii · April 22, 2017

maybe they repaired the buy back defect.

Sierra706 · April 22, 2017

Just checked the Carfax and it appears the OP didn't even own the vehicle......according to the report it was a personal lease which is a fancy term for a long term rental. So how could there even be a buyback? Who gives a crap about a leased vehicle, don't like it , dump it? All GM really did was take back their vehicle and lease him another one, probably forgoing early termination penalties. If it went through GMAC they likely already made their money in the first few month's payments.

My sister did a buyback on an '04 Chrysler Crossfire (a captive Mercedes) with electrical gremlins that even stumped the Germans. She bought it cash and owned it outright. And with no crying to the State or BBB, just 5 tries at repair working with her dealer, Chrysler issued her a voucher for the MSRP, not the actual purchase price, of the vehicle good against any Chrysler product at any Chrysler dealer in the US. And she was free to take advantage of any concurrent rebates, if any, available at the time of re-purchase.....ended up buying an '05 Crossfire with more accessories in it as an even swap.....that's a real buy back! And she could give a $hit about the fate of that Crossfire.

Congratulations you and your sister don't give a shit about anyone other than yourselves. Remind us about the part where you represent GM and somehow took offense to this apparent "bashing" of a corporation. Maybe OP sleeps better at night knowing he did a good deed and tried to prevent someone from buying a vehicle deemed unsafe. Do everyone a favor and keep your weasel opinions to yourself.

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Thomcat · April 22, 2017

Congratulations you and your sister don't give a shit about anyone other than yourselves. Remind us about the part where you represent GM and somehow took offense to this apparent "bashing" of a corporation. Maybe OP sleeps better at night knowing he did a good deed and tried to prevent someone from buying a vehicle deemed unsafe. Do everyone a favor and keep your weasel opinions to yourself.

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Those who find it necessary to profess good deeds, whether real or imagined, are heroes in their own minds; true heroes neither exhort nor seek glory for their actions. I've no time or desire to suffer snowflakes, self righteous crybabies and in particular pompous individuals who presume to speak for others.