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Well there ya go . Another reason to not take anything Carfax seriously. Carfax shows "branded" title. GM does not. As far as GM goes, it's a clear title.

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Well there ya go . Another reason to not take anything Carfax seriously. Carfax shows "branded" title. GM does not. As far as GM goes, it's a clear title.

Thats so messed up.

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Apparently it is impossible to call Carfax, they purposely list no phone number, and state they only communicate through email.

 

I did email them about my buyback truck, that is currently for sale at another dealer, most importantly that it says there was no structural damage; while I had a service print out that stated " the frame needs to be replaced" from the dealer. So, will see if or how they respond.

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Apparently it is impossible to call Carfax, they purposely list no phone number, and state they only communicate through email.

I did email them about my buyback truck, that is currently for sale at another dealer, most importantly that it says there was no structural damage; while I had a service print out that stated " the frame needs to be replaced" from the dealer. So, will see if or how they respond.

Im looking forward to the response.

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As long as the dealer discloses that information, I suppose there won't be any legal suit later. I have a friend who bought a Subaru that the dealer did not disclose the problems to him, he sued, he won.

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Im looking forward to the response.

So I've been emailing Carfax, I was able to get them to update the Carfax to say buyback/Lemon.

 

As for the frame damage (Carfax structural damage) they asked me if I had any records to prove this. Unfortunately I threw out all my service records for that truck; as I don't own it anymore. Should have framed that one I had about the frame damage and buyback. But I asked Carfax to contact the dealer for the service records. We'll see if they do, but I get the feeling Carfax is to lazy to do any of their own research.

 

Here is the link to the Carfax. It now says buyback/Lemon

 

https://www.carfax.com/VehicleHistory/p/Report.cfx?partner=DLR_3&vin=3GCUKREC4FG116888

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Thats pretty messed up. I bet there are a lot more trucks like yours and mine out on dealers lots. Used Chevy's are dangerous.

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Here's my .02 of opinion for what it is worth.

 

The OP is damn lucky I'm not the dealer who currently owns the vehicle because if I, and likely if he, discovers the OP initiated a negative action with a third party, Carfax, subsequent to his legal buyback contract with GM......his a$$ would be sued faster than a starving dog chasing a 6" meatball down the hill.....especially since this secondary dealer may be ignorant of specific facts related to a buyback and is in essence an innocent party.

 

GM bought back the allegedly defective vehicle and made the OP whole and his obligations and responsibility were satisfied, but evidently he just couldn't let it go......just like Batman out to save the public. Once the OP was legally satisfied his obligation had ended, it becomes Caveat Emptor for the next buyer and any and all information disclosure obligations and responsibility rest with the seller. I sure hope the OP didn't sign a non disclosure as part of the buyback agreement or likely he is exposed for lawsuit.....probably Carfax too because their site indicates that their unsubstantiated Alert was in response to a State DMV complaint not a private party absent any written documentation.

 

Not really a great move!.....now all it will take is for a potential buyer to walk into the dealer, tell them the sale was soured by Carfax information initiated by the OP and posted on this forum. As a result the OP's actions subsequent to his agreement with GM, the dealer (and GM for that matter) has legal recourse for interference with his conduct of business and monetary damages for devaluation of his product. And lacking his copy of the service records the OP will be up $hit creek! If so, pray the dealer is not a vindictive SOB and sells the vehicle for a nickel and initiates suit for the balance of the sale price, non monetary damages and legal expenses.

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Thomcat is spot on in my opinion. I would bet that somewhere in the buyback documents there is language that addresses non-disclosure. Since the vehicle in question has a unique VIN number, proving a breach of contract will be easy.

 

Sometimes its better to let sleeping dogs lie.

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Reminds me of the TV series Goliath with Billy Bob Thornton. The OP better watch out for those GM lawyers, they could just make him disappear..............

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Screw the lawyers and who ever would want to go after the OP. I would give him kudos if he were to help prevent someone else from getting screwed. GM should have A. Crushed the truck since they couldn't fix it.

B. Auction it with a B title or sell for parts.

C. Tear down the vehicle and figure out the problem!! Then fix The rest of the trucks with this issue!!

It's that easy!! I've never, ever worried about lawyers when it comes​ to doing what is right. People are pussies now, rushing to use a lawyer instead of fighting for themselves. What happened to men being men and just doing what is right and just???

 

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Screw the lawyers and who ever would want to go after the OP. I would give him kudos if he were to help prevent someone else from getting screwed. GM should have A. Crushed the truck since they couldn't fix it.

B. Auction it with a B title or sell for parts.

C. Tear down the vehicle and figure out the problem!! Then fix The rest of the trucks with this issue!!

It's that easy!! I've never, ever worried about lawyers when it comes​ to doing what is right. People are pussies now, rushing to use a lawyer instead of fighting for themselves. What happened to men being men and just doing what is right and just???

 

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Has nothing to do with being a man, but using your brains instead of brawn to avoid and outwit predators. Just like the first small mammals who had to take to the trees to avoid the monsters trying to eat their a$$, one has to be smart enough NOT to initiate entanglements or otherwise pi$$ upon large monsters who have legals staff on retainers who to justify their existence and pay are more than willing to expend their time and effort to squash some bug with interrogatories, lawsuits, subpoenas, garnishments, etc.if for nothing else just to prove that they can. And if one is not fortunate enough to have the resources to battle them with one's own cadre of Wall St. law firms, but fortunate enough to have more than two nickels to rub together he won't be hanging on to his nickels for long.

 

Wand to know "What ever happened to right and just??" Ever read the papers? Just try to graze your cattle on presently owned Government land, the same land your forefathers used for centuries, try to build your house on your land that was declared as no construction Greenspace by your State or Federal authorities, try to bring your legally owned and permitted handgun into an adjoining State lacking reciprocity and exercise your Constitutionally guaranteed right, try to recover damages from someone who is in the country illegally who doesn't even have a pot to pi$$ in and find out you can't even have him arrested for not having the same driver's license and mandatory insurance required of you, etc., etc., etc and you'll see how far being a man and fighting for justice goes. Easy to keep one's head in the sand until it is eventually ripped out after years of education leading to a Masters Degree from the School of Hard Knocks......and here's my take after half a century's worth of tutelage at that school: Rich and Powerful wins over Right and Just, and Smart and Cautious trumps both! every time!

 

All things considered, the caveman with the largest club wins the fight, the caveman with the longest reach and spikes on his club over the one without, the spear over the knife, the machine gun over the flintlock, and established law firm with the proper initiative and unlimited resources over a paid by the hour attorney hire through the Yellow Pages.

 

Good luck to the OP on his new truck; here's hoping someone at GM or the dealer doesn't act on this post otherwise he may be forced to sell it to cover legal expenses.

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It would still be embarrassing for GM if they take actions because someone is pointing out that they're re-selling a vehicle they weren't able to repair.

 

so long

j-ten-ner

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