Everyone look what I found

[15_silverado]

That's crazy. I didn't see anything on the carfax about a buyback or anything. That does suck for the new owner.

I was just reading the Carfax... Unbelievable

 

https://www.carfax.com/VehicleHistory/p/Report.cfx?partner=DLR_3&vin=3GCUKREC4FG116888

 

This vehicle had lots of transmission problems. But it was actually bought back for frame damage. Yes, frame damage. The truck was leaning, dealer could not fix it, I took it to an independent frame shop who found a bent frame bracket; that was an integral part of the frame; causing the vehicle to lean, once I showed the frame shop report to the dealer and showed them the frame bracket that the independent shop found, there was no denying it. The dealer actually printed me out a service ticket​ that said " frame damage was found cuasing the lean and customer would talk to GM DMA about repurchase/buyback". Long story short.

 

The car fax says nothing about the frame.

It does mention numerous transmission services BS. Even if they fixed the frame they should mention that it had problems. And mention it was a buyback. But I garenty that transmission is still messed up. And I could swear I still see it leaning in the picture, so I doubt anything was done at all to it. Just recockulous!!!

[15_silverado]

^^^^

I'm going to call Carfax about this next week, that's unacceptable. No one should buy this truck without knowing it's true history first.

[pickmeup]

It gives us all some insight of how the industry operates. Move vehicles around and it appears the ''paper trail'' is even misleading .

[Binobanbino]

On my car fax report it only shows a small percentage of the trips that truck was at the dealer. Come to think of it rather buy a used truck with nothing on the car fax rather then one showing all these false maintenance trips.

 

This come to show car fax is just a glorified record keeper that gets feed false information to give that false piece of mind to the next owner.

 

If these trucks are unrepairable they should be crushed not resold. Lets hope no one gets killed because of it.

[Thomcat]

^^^^

I'm going to call Carfax about this next week, that's unacceptable. No one should buy this truck without knowing it's true history first.

Carfax.....schmarfax......People talk about it like it is the overall prognosticator of a vehicle's past history and predicted reliability.

 

Really think they will take action based upon a callers complaint, which by doing so might alert the industry that their current methodology and "research" source(s) are sometimes faulty, and this vehicle they essentially certified by omission is essentially a reworked lemon? Just a hunch but my opinion is your shoe would be a more receptive listener.

 

My wife's Trailblazer was "T boned" by an uninsured motorist in the Peoples Republic of MD jumping a stop sign and turned into a piece of crap with frame damage. Lucky for us we always purchase vehicles outright and had maximum insurance coverage as advised by the insurance rep for that area in the PRMD. Had the wreck dragged to a GM dealer with their own body shop and since I owned the vehicle, picked up the insurance check made out only to me for the value of the damage, minus deductible, within 48 hours......walked into the showroom while the Traily was still bleeding on the lot told them I wanted full trade value in excellent condition (to be restored after their repairs) against a new Avy in return for the check and balance of payment. Taillights down the road within 48 hours and once repaired, this one owner low mileage "creampuff" never showed up as a reconstructed wreck on Carfax.

[cbrsilv15]

Unfortunately GM operates like the small buy here/pay here car dealers.

 

Buy a Cobalt at auction for 1k. Sell it on their lot for 4k, but make you put the 1k down payment down. Car is then paid for. New owner defaults on their loan, because of crappy credit/poor financial choices, and car is repo'd. Car is then put for sale again on that same lot and gets the next buyer. That's how they make their money and stay in business.

[Donstar]

Buying a used vehicle has always been a gamble. Tools like Carfax help but are not perfect. You need to inspect a potential purchase thoroughly and pay based on its current condition. If I, or my mechanic, determines that a potential used car purchase shakes or drives poorly then I will look elsewhere. Knowing a car has received significant damage or was a buyback should be disclosed by law and should be reflected in the price. I remember buying a new '85 Suburban that had significant hail damage. It looked horrible but it was one way I could afford a family truckster! In this example the damage was obvious but perhaps there are others who would like the opportunity to be in a newer vehicle at a price reflective of a re-build or a buy back.

[Knightfall]

what was I thinking? I thought 4wd worked in sand and mud etc, and was thinking there were farms down south. Thanks for the update.

I was born in Alabama, and raised in the cow and phosphate mine country of rural central Florida, with ancestors who settled that state as early as 1810. I know all about sand and farms and rural life down south. Yes, 4x4 helps when you're up to the windows in mud anywhere, I was just referring to the fact that, for the normal suburbanite/someone who doesn't use their truck in an extremely muddy environment such as a ranch, mine, or similar line of work, there's no need. The normal roads are never not at least a decent traction driving situation, even in the thunderstorm capital of the world that is Polk County, FL.

[duquephart]

Unfortunately GM operates like the small buy here/pay here car dealers.

 

Buy a Cobalt at auction for 1k. Sell it on their lot for 4k, but make you put the 1k down payment down. Car is then paid for. New owner defaults on their loan, because of crappy credit/poor financial choices, and car is repo'd. Car is then put for sale again on that same lot and gets the next buyer. That's how they make their money and stay in business.

 

Desperate types with "damaged" credit and limited "financial resources" will glom on to pretty much anything they can drive home. Car dealers feed on this. The shabbily dressed and a bit "off" buyer stepping onto a used car lot doesn't stand a chance.

[Binobanbino]

I just talked to a person I met at one of the many trips to the dealer that was trying to fix my truck. I told him what happend to my old truck that its for sale and he was shocked.

 

He decided to do a search on his vin. Guess what its for sale also. His car fax says lemon/ buy back. This is freaking crazy.

[StillOffshore]

Never thought about how sketchy it really is to buy a pre-owned vehicle. Might be a lot cheaper in the long run to buy brand new.

[Binobanbino]

Never thought about how sketchy it really is to buy a pre-owned vehicle. Might be a lot cheaper in the long run to buy brand new.

I have never bought used. But buying new look what I went thru. So it all goes down to what you get. If your lucky you get new and live happily ever after.

 

The crazy thing is that I think my new truck shakes also.

[14GMCSLTSIERRA]

Branded title = no GM warranty. Except safety recalls.

Sorry...not true!...here is this trucks remaining warranties...

 

 

Corrosion Limited Warranty 05/12/2014 1 MI 05/12/2020 100,001 MI Powertrain Limited Warranty 05/12/2014 1 MI 05/12/2019 100,001 MI Bumper to Bumper Limited Warranty 05/12/2014 1 MI 05/12/2017 36,001 MI Chevrolet 2 Year Scheduled Maintenance 05/12/2014 1 MI 05/12/2016 24,001 MI Emission Select Component Ltd Wty 05/12/2014 1 MI 05/12/2022 80,001 MI

[14GMCSLTSIERRA]

 

12/29/2016

 

208735

 

ZFAT----Field Action Recall

 

 

 

9102394 - N150822 - Install Driver Side Front Seat Belt Anchor Plate Tensioner Bracket, Includes Seat Trim Mod

 

18,387 MI

 

09/15/2016

 

201829

 

ZFAT----Field Action Recall

 

 

 

9102276 - 16007 - N16-204817 - Inflatable Restraint Sensing and Diagnostic Module Reprogramming w

 

18,386 MI

 

05/17/2016

 

346276

 

ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction

 

 

 

8060272 - Tire and Wheel Balancing - Four

 

18,329 MI

 

03/21/2016

 

709186

 

ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction

 

 

 

0521900 - Tubular Assist Step Replacement

 

16,899 MI

 

02/22/2016

 

705749

 

ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction

 

 

 

8044751 - Rear Shock Absorber Replacement - Both Sides

 

16,513 MI

 

01/07/2016

 

700540

 

ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction

 

 

 

0600723 - Chevrolet 2 Year Maintenance

 

15,417 MI

 

01/07/2016

 

700540

 

ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction

 

 

 

8060440 - Goodyear/Dunlop Tire Replacement

 

15,417 MI

 

10/29/2015

 

692645

 

ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction

 

 

 

8060440 - Goodyear/Dunlop Tire Replacement

 

13,263 MI

 

06/06/2015

 

676000

 

ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction

 

 

 

0600723 - Chevrolet 2 Year Maintenance

 

10,763 MI

 

04/08/2015

 

669242

 

ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction

 

 

 

1440354 - Front Bumper Impact Bar Partial Refinish Color/Clear Coat

 

8,487 MI

 

03/24/2015

 

667235

 

ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction

 

Add Credit

 

8060440 - Goodyear/Dunlop Tire Replacement

 

8,448 MI

 

03/24/2015

 

667235

 

ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction

 

Full Debit - Reversal

 

8060440 - Goodyear/Dunlop Tire Replacement

 

8,448 MI

 

03/24/2015

 

667235

 

ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction

 

 

 

8060440 - Goodyear/Dunlop Tire Replacement

 

8,448 MI

 

12/06/2014

 

655037

 

ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction

 

 

 

0600723 - Chevrolet 2 Year Maintenance

 

5,162 MI

 

09/05/2014

 

643875

 

ZFAT----Field Action Recall

 

 

 

9100630 - N140126 - Reprogram Instrument Panel Cluster

 

3,223 MI

 

09/05/2014

 

643875

 

ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction

 

Add Credit

 

1010570 - Front Grille Replacement

 

3,223 MI

 

09/05/2014

 

643875

 

ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction

 

Full Debit - Reversal

 

1010570 - Front Grille Replacement

 

3,223 MI

 

09/05/2014

 

643875

 

ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction

 

 

 

1010570 - Front Grille Replacement

 

3,223 MI

 

09/05/2014

 

643875

 

ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction

 

Add Credit

 

8060400 - Wheel Replacement

 

3,223 MI

 

09/05/2014

 

643875

 

ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction

 

Full Debit - Reversal

 

8060400 - Wheel Replacement

 

3,223 MI

 

09/05/2014

 

643875

 

ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction

 

 

 

8060400 - Wheel Replacement

 

3,223 MI

 

05/19/2014

 

631986

 

ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction

 

 

 

1446624 - Complete Body Environmental Fallout Removal

 

305 MI

 

05/02/2014

 

686427

 

ZSET----Service Event

 

 

 

0512352 - Pickup Box Liner Package Installation

 

8

 

05/02/2014

 

686427

 

ZPDI----Pre-Delivery Inspection

 

Add Credit

 

0590032 - PDI - Dealer Installed - Factory Invoiced Options

 

8 MI

 

05/02/2014

 

686427

 

ZPDI----Pre-Delivery Inspection

 

Full Debit - Reversal

 

0590032 - PDI - Dealer Installed - Factory Invoiced Options

 

8 MI

 

05/02/2014

 

686427

 

ZPDI----Pre-Delivery Inspection

 

 

 

0590032 - PDI - Dealer Installed - Factory Invoiced Options

 

8 MI

 

05/02/2014

 

686426

 

ZSET----Service Event

 

 

 

0510162 - Wheel Lock Package Installation

 

6

 

03/29/2014

 

A27371

 

ZPDI----Pre-Delivery Inspection

 

 

 

0590072 - Pre-Delivery Inspection - Base Time

 

[Binobanbino]

12/29/2016

 

208735

 

ZFAT----Field Action Recall

 

 

 

9102394 - N150822 - Install Driver Side Front Seat Belt Anchor Plate Tensioner Bracket, Includes Seat Trim Mod

 

18,387 MI

 

09/15/2016

 

201829

 

ZFAT----Field Action Recall

 

 

 

9102276 - 16007 - N16-204817 - Inflatable Restraint Sensing and Diagnostic Module Reprogramming w

 

18,386 MI

 

05/17/2016

 

346276

 

ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction

 

 

 

8060272 - Tire and Wheel Balancing - Four

 

18,329 MI

 

03/21/2016

 

709186

 

ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction

 

 

 

0521900 - Tubular Assist Step Replacement

 

16,899 MI

 

02/22/2016

 

705749

 

ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction

 

 

 

8044751 - Rear Shock Absorber Replacement - Both Sides

 

16,513 MI

 

01/07/2016

 

700540

 

ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction

 

 

 

0600723 - Chevrolet 2 Year Maintenance

 

15,417 MI

 

01/07/2016

 

700540

 

ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction

 

 

 

8060440 - Goodyear/Dunlop Tire Replacement

 

15,417 MI

 

10/29/2015

 

692645

 

ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction

 

 

 

8060440 - Goodyear/Dunlop Tire Replacement

 

13,263 MI

 

06/06/2015

 

676000

 

ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction

 

 

 

0600723 - Chevrolet 2 Year Maintenance

 

10,763 MI

 

04/08/2015

 

669242

 

ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction

 

 

 

1440354 - Front Bumper Impact Bar Partial Refinish Color/Clear Coat

 

8,487 MI

 

03/24/2015

 

667235

 

ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction

 

Add Credit

 

8060440 - Goodyear/Dunlop Tire Replacement

 

8,448 MI

 

03/24/2015

 

667235

 

ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction

 

Full Debit - Reversal

 

8060440 - Goodyear/Dunlop Tire Replacement

 

8,448 MI

 

03/24/2015

 

667235

 

ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction

 

 

 

8060440 - Goodyear/Dunlop Tire Replacement

 

8,448 MI

 

12/06/2014

 

655037

 

ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction

 

 

 

0600723 - Chevrolet 2 Year Maintenance

 

5,162 MI

 

09/05/2014

 

643875

 

ZFAT----Field Action Recall

 

 

 

9100630 - N140126 - Reprogram Instrument Panel Cluster

 

3,223 MI

 

09/05/2014

 

643875

 

ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction

 

Add Credit

 

1010570 - Front Grille Replacement

 

3,223 MI

 

09/05/2014

 

643875

 

ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction

 

Full Debit - Reversal

 

1010570 - Front Grille Replacement

 

3,223 MI

 

09/05/2014

 

643875

 

ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction

 

 

 

1010570 - Front Grille Replacement

 

3,223 MI

 

09/05/2014

 

643875

 

ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction

 

Add Credit

 

8060400 - Wheel Replacement

 

3,223 MI

 

09/05/2014

 

643875

 

ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction

 

Full Debit - Reversal

 

8060400 - Wheel Replacement

 

3,223 MI

 

09/05/2014

 

643875

 

ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction

 

 

 

8060400 - Wheel Replacement

 

3,223 MI

 

05/19/2014

 

631986

 

ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction

 

 

 

1446624 - Complete Body Environmental Fallout Removal

 

305 MI

 

05/02/2014

 

686427

 

ZSET----Service Event

 

 

 

0512352 - Pickup Box Liner Package Installation

 

8

 

05/02/2014

 

686427

 

ZPDI----Pre-Delivery Inspection

 

Add Credit

 

0590032 - PDI - Dealer Installed - Factory Invoiced Options

 

8 MI

 

05/02/2014

 

686427

 

ZPDI----Pre-Delivery Inspection

 

Full Debit - Reversal

 

0590032 - PDI - Dealer Installed - Factory Invoiced Options

 

8 MI

 

05/02/2014

 

686427

 

ZPDI----Pre-Delivery Inspection

 

 

 

0590032 - PDI - Dealer Installed - Factory Invoiced Options

 

8 MI

 

05/02/2014

 

686426

 

ZSET----Service Event

 

 

 

0510162 - Wheel Lock Package Installation

 

6

 

03/29/2014

 

A27371

 

ZPDI----Pre-Delivery Inspection

 

 

 

0590072 - Pre-Delivery Inspection - Base Time

Now that looks more like it. I did not see where they replaced all the cab mounts, torque converter, rear end, top roof shark fin, prob more things I am forgetting right now.

 

Thanks for the update.