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truckguy82 Senior Enthusiast

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7 hours ago, Kubs said:

Nope. Simple physics.  If the front tires lose grip you're not going to make them change direction by adding more force (throttle).  Grip is grip no matter what direction they are moving.  Tires play a much larger role.

Yeah you will, because a sliding tire packs snow inside of the grooves and no longer catches anything. If you have the ability to spin them it will fling the snow out and grip on new snow. Thus a 4wd vehicle will indeed have more traction and more control during a turn. It does not break the laws of physics.

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Darksky Enthusiast

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On 11/27/2018 at 5:38 AM, Kubs said:

Keep in mind that 4WD only helps with acceleration.

That is a very poor, vague statement. 

 

4WD changes handling characteristics, profoundly at times on surfaces with poor grip. Especially when contrasted with RWD vehicles.

Ducky Enthusiast

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So an update:

 

Went over the pass, mostly snow and slush on ground, nothing bad, coming back though.. compact snow and ice. We were in a line of people 10mph max, cars getting stuck halting our convoy of vehicles, had to wait for them to get off to the side before proceeding. There was a 4x4 RAM with knobby tires just spinning... but with slow speeds and in AWD Mode on my truck, didn't slip once. Made it down as semi trucks and 10k GVW vehicles were prohibited.

 

I wasn't expecting the pass to get that bad, as when I went over it the first time all went well and at decent speeds... on the way back was more "death grip" on steering wheel.

 

FYI:

https://www.wsdot.wa.gov/winter/traction.htm

Roscopcoletrain Senior Enthusiast

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On 11/30/2018 at 4:24 PM, truckguy82 said:

That was a log post argueing a point that nobody is talking about.

 

Also nobody wants to buy two seperate sets of wheels and switch them on and off every winter.

 

I just sold my house in VT, never felt the need for snow tires. All I really cared about is getting to my destination regardless of conditions, basically the ability to not get stuck. And our trucks with all-seasons will do that.

Maybe where you are, but running a spring/summer/fall wheel & tire combo, then swapping your winter wheel & tire combo is very popular in other parts of the world. Its far easier to just swap them, than having them remount and balance the tires every year. 

crushNchowda Senior Enthusiast

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On 11/30/2018 at 3:24 PM, truckguy82 said:

That was a log post argueing a point that nobody is talking about.

 

Also nobody wants to buy two seperate sets of wheels and switch them on and off every winter.

 

I just sold my house in VT, never felt the need for snow tires. All I really cared about is getting to my destination regardless of conditions, basically the ability to not get stuck. And our trucks with all-seasons will do that.

You say you live in VT, but that your experience is "nobody wants to buy 2 separate sets of wheels & switch them off every winter" is extremely perplexing....how long did you live in VT, 6 months lol?? LOADS of people run winter tires on cars/trucks & anything in between across new england, but in particular VT/ME/NH

 

While living in VT did you ever cross the border into Quebec? Quebec & BC REQUIRE snow tires during the winter months FWIW.

 

And my response is absolutely relevant to the the OP discussion as dedicated snow tires are unequivocally the BEST "snow traction device" you can get for a vehicle lol!!!!

 

Speak for yourself, but I like to know I can travel wherever whenever in the worst winter conditions possible in the safest manner possible & that's running studded snows on a leveled 4x4 truck. If you have another suggestion for a superior "snow traction" setup please do tell.

 

 

grizzlyltz Enthusiast

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That is a very poor, vague statement. 

 

4WD changes handling characteristics, profoundly at times on surfaces with poor grip. Especially when contrasted with RWD vehicles.

 

 

Your statement isn’t any better [emoji23]

 

 

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dave07 Enthusiast

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1 hour ago, crushNchowda said:

Speak for yourself, but I like to know I can travel wherever whenever in the worst winter conditions possible in the safest manner possible & that's running studded snows on a leveled 4x4 truck. If you have another suggestion for a superior "snow traction" setup please do tell.

Driver Mod! :driving:

grizzlyltz Enthusiast

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Tips for driving in the snow:

Accelerate and decelerate slowly. ...

Drive slowly. ..

The normal dry pavement following distance of three to four seconds should be increased to eight to ten seconds. ...

Know your brakes. ...

Don't stop if you can avoid it. ...

Don't power up hills. ...

Don't stop going up a hill. ...

Stay home. Lol





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STRMTRPR Enthusiast

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.. in a serious response to the OP question - I keep a set of steel traction aids similar to these in my truck to help out stuck drivers in the winter who didn't install winter tires. They do work and they fold up nicely in a little storage bag.

 

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Ducky Enthusiast

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On 12/3/2018 at 12:23 PM, STRMTRPR said:

.. in a serious response to the OP question - I keep a set of steel traction aids similar to these in my truck to help out stuck drivers in the winter who didn't install winter tires. They do work and they fold up nicely in a little storage bag.

 

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Thanks! I'll look into these, do you know the brand? It's winter time, I just went out today which reminded me to check this thread. I'd still like to get something (just in case) I'm starting my search again... too late in the year.spacer.png

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