Coronavirus

[CamGTP]

Does anyone else still watch and count how many people wear a mask and gloves in their own personal car still??

 

A couple months into this stuff and I guess they still don't get it lol.

 

 

 

[Thejet07]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/06/08/shutdowns-prevented-60-million-coronavirus-infections-us-study-finds/

The same people who said the sky was falling. What a joke.


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[Diana Welch]

Coronavirus is really deadly..

[RyanbabZ71]

Does anyone else still watch and count how many people wear a mask and gloves in their own personal car still??
 
A couple months into this stuff and I guess they still don't get it lol.
 
 
 

Seen a motorcyclist for the first time wearing one yesterday. The ironic thing was he was not wearing a helmet [emoji2361]


Ryan B.

[Grumpy Bear]

7 hours ago, Thejet07 said:

The same people who said the sky was falling. What a joke.


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The didn't do the study. Just reported it. 

 

How do you, personally, decide which news is fake and which is real?

Seriously.

I want to know what expert team you've employed to do you fact checks.

[Grumpy Bear]

1 hour ago, RyanbabZ71 said:

 

Seen a motorcyclist for the first time wearing one yesterday. The ironic thing was he was not wearing a helmet


Ryan B.

 

So you see no difference between someone shooting you and you shooting yourself?

 

2 hours ago, Diana Welch said:

Coronavirus is really deadly..

Yes it is 

[Thejet07]

The didn't do the study. Just reported it. 

 

How do you, personally, decide which news is fake and which is real?

Seriously.

I want to know what expert team you've employed to do you fact checks.

You don’t see they were wayyyy off the first time. Looked like dumbasses, and now say we saved millions to try and save face. Get outta here with your arrogant self. What news do I use you ask? I live in nyc, work for a certain dept that has direct contact with this. I’ve had family who passed from this. I’ve read the statements claiming patients who’ve passed and were positive were marked as covid deaths. Seems pretty simple to me without having to use graphs. I find it funny how now people are out in the streets protesting and rioting and suddenly they’re not selfish aholes. Oh and the chances of asymptomatic transmission is null. So that’s not bad now. And this was mentioned after the rioting started. Check the market.(redistribution of money?)How’s that doing? Who’s on trial right now?
The coronavirus is real. There’s no denying it. It’s not a scary as it’s been made out to 99% of the people who get it. And spare me the what if’s and possibility/probabilities.


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[Grumpy Bear]

14 minutes ago, Thejet07 said:

You don’t see they were wayyyy off the first time. Looked like dumbasses, and now say we saved millions to try and save face. Get outta here with your arrogant self. What news do I use you ask? I live in nyc, work for a certain dept that has direct contact with this. I’ve had family who passed from this. I’ve read the statements claiming patients who’ve passed and were positive were marked as covid deaths. Seems pretty simple to me without having to use graphs. I find it funny how now people are out in the streets protesting and rioting and suddenly they’re not selfish aholes. Oh and the chances of asymptomatic transmission is null. So that’s not bad now. And this was mentioned after the rioting started. Check the market.(redistribution of money?)How’s that doing? Who’s on trial right now?
The coronavirus is real. There’s no denying it. It’s not a scary as it’s been made out to 99% of the people who get it. And spare me the what if’s and possibility/probabilities.


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Interesting collection of 'what isn't a fact check'.  Your method is a mud puddle in an ocean. You see no shark in your puddle so sharks are not real and if they are real no one in your puddle got bit so....sharks are not dangerous?

 

What I see was a projection based on zero mitigation cut short by mitigation. You see because it didn't reach unmitigated projections that mitigation was wrong?  

 

I push you away from an arrow headed straight for your heart. The arrow doesn't hit you. You complain I ruffled you shirt and the push was not needed and riot in the streets. Sue for dry cleaning. The arrow didn't hit you. There is a strong reason for you not to hear the 'what ifs'. The truth doesn't help your case. I understand that.  

 

Hey your not in that boat alone. If fact it seems your in the majority. How happy for you all.  

[OnTheReel]

The link posted was not a study, it was an unprovable argument and speculation. It draws even more scrutiny when it was done by “experts“ who are benefitted by proving themselves correct, even after being 100% wrong in the past.

I based my opinions on what actually happens. Not on estimates. Not on what I thought was going to happen. 

 

What has actually happened?

 

States that opened earlier saw no uptick in cases (experts said they would). States like mine that opened later also saw no uptick (experts said they would). Countries that never closed down in the first place followed the same basic line as those that did. Cities with the most draconian lockdowns still saw the highest infection rates. And more than 10 days after the riots, the rioters are not dropping dead.

 

That is strong evidence that the lockdowns were at best ineffective and at worst, counterproductive and harmful.

 

Even disregarding all that...in a sane world, the mask argument AND the lockdown argument would have been put to bed when the CDC and WHO respectively said surface to surface transmission is very difficult and asymptomatic spread is very rare.
 

I do give some benefit of the doubt to our early reactions to what was a novel virus. But as of now, there is no excuse to carry on treating this thing like we did 3 months ago. Unfortunately certain people are far too invested in the original narrative to see things as they are.

[Thejet07]

Interesting collection of 'what isn't a fact check'.  Your method is a mud puddle in an ocean. You see no shark in your puddle so sharks are not real and if they are real no one in your puddle got bit so....sharks are not dangerous?
 
What I see was a projection based on zero mitigation cut short by mitigation. You see because it didn't reach unmitigated projections that mitigation was wrong?  
 
I push you away from an arrow headed straight for your heart. The arrow doesn't hit you. You complain I ruffled you shirt and the push was not needed and riot in the streets. Sue for dry cleaning. The arrow didn't hit you. There is a strong reason for you not to hear the 'what ifs'. The truth doesn't help your case. I understand that.  
 
Hey your not in that boat alone. If fact it seems your in the majority. How happy for you all.  

Try hard. It’ll be ok


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[Grumpy Bear]

3 hours ago, Thejet07 said:

Try hard. It’ll be ok


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 This isn't a war. I don't need to win it.  I ask questions. Post information. Watch the response. Enjoy my coffee.

 

If a person is in a burning building and scared for their life then by all means, try to save them

If they've pour gas on themselves and light it...

Stand back or they will take you with them

 

You sir have a cause and are on a mission.

I don't care what that mission is

Your just a curiosity

No need to "try"

There is no prize

Got my answer

 

 

 

 

 

[T1Kaiju]

Um, Mr. Grumpy, this is your boss at MSNBC. Didnt you get the memo? Were not doing Covid-19 any more; we got the BLM riot scare tactic to push now. Please switch to alarmist narrative C...

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[Cpl_Punishment]

7 hours ago, OnTheReel said:

The link posted was not a study, it was an unprovable argument and speculation. It draws even more scrutiny when it was done by “experts“ who are benefitted by proving themselves correct, even after being 100% wrong in the past.

I based my opinions on what actually happens. Not on estimates. Not on what I thought was going to happen. 

 

What has actually happened?

 

States that opened earlier saw no uptick in cases (experts said they would). States like mine that opened later also saw no uptick (experts said they would). Countries that never closed down in the first place followed the same basic line as those that did. Cities with the most draconian lockdowns still saw the highest infection rates. And more than 10 days after the riots, the rioters are not dropping dead.

 

That is strong evidence that the lockdowns were at best ineffective and at worst, counterproductive and harmful.

 

Even disregarding all that...in a sane world, the mask argument AND the lockdown argument would have been put to bed when the CDC and WHO respectively said surface to surface transmission is very difficult and asymptomatic spread is very rare.
 

I do give some benefit of the doubt to our early reactions to what was a novel virus. But as of now, there is no excuse to carry on treating this thing like we did 3 months ago. Unfortunately certain people are far too invested in the original narrative to see things as they are.

I'd still rather wear a mask or social distance because I don't trust selfish assholes to stay home when they're sick. 

[Grumpy Bear]

2 hours ago, Texas Daddy said:

Um, Mr. Grumpy, this is your boss at MSNBC. Didnt you get the memo? Were not doing Covid-19 any more; we got the BLM riot scare tactic to push now. Please switch to alarmist narrative C...

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When your in a room with a tiger fear is just good common sense. 

 

What's the last thing you hear a redneck say?

Hold my beer. Watch this!!

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[Thejet07]

For trying to portray yourself as “intelligent” with all your insight. You sure like to be derogatory.


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