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Was reading an Article that by 2026 Biden is Requiring All Automobiles to get a minimum of 40 MPG. 

Can't wait until 2026 to order a New 3500 dually getting 40 mpg, yeeha.

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1 hour ago, James Beyer said:

Was reading an Article that by 2026 Biden is Requiring All Automobiles to get a minimum of 40 MPG. 

Can't wait until 2026 to order a New 3500 dually getting 40 mpg, yeeha.

 

I haven't read anything about that, but I'm thinking that maybe it only applies to light duty vehicles?

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The avg fuel mileage standard will be 40mpg, not every new vehicle getting 40mpg.

 

Heavy duty trucks will likely still be exempt from all this.

 

This just means more hybrid vehicles and more electric vehicles to offset for all the SUV and trucks getting mid 20's for avg mpg and trucks in the mid to upper teens. The tree huggers of the world and the far left people of the government obviously have no clue how hard it already is to achieve the mpg numbers we do today in cars and trucks. They think with the flip of the switch we can just "make it better" like magic. Plus all these states banning ICE vehicles in less than 8 years or something, they must think that infrastructure happens like magic too.

 

GM, Ford, Dodge etc etc just have to have those vehicles available for purchase. We all know that the vast majority of vehicles still bought will never be at that 40 mpg value.

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2 hours ago, CamGTP said:

The avg fuel mileage standard will be 40mpg, not every new vehicle getting 40mpg.

 

Heavy duty trucks will likely still be exempt from all this.

 

This just means more hybrid vehicles and more electric vehicles to offset for all the SUV and trucks getting mid 20's for avg mpg and trucks in the mid to upper teens. The tree huggers of the world and the far left people of the government obviously have no clue how hard it already is to achieve the mpg numbers we do today in cars and trucks. They think with the flip of the switch we can just "make it better" like magic. Plus all these states banning ICE vehicles in less than 8 years or something, they must think that infrastructure happens like magic too.

 

GM, Ford, Dodge etc etc just have to have those vehicles available for purchase. We all know that the vast majority of vehicles still bought will never be at that 40 mpg value.

True, but I don't see cars getting >60MPG to offset the fuel guzzling of trucks and large SUVs.

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Thank You guys,

After reading the article, I took it as kind of a wishing well joke. 

Though it would be nice to have 3/4 ton and 1 ton trucks getting 30+ mpg, and 1/2 ton high 30's.  

Maybe Biden, with all of his wisdom, has already figured out how to make it work with his memory pills and prune juice he bought while being a truck driver, lol.

 

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Corporate average across the whole line of vehicles. Not for every vehicle. And if manufacturers don't make the number, I'm sure all it will mean is they will merely have to pay fines etc. And guess who will pay those fines? It will be passed down to the consumers  in gas guzzler tax etc lol

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If I heard this right the 40 mpg number was a rollback from a higher number. Part of a reality check. Could be wrong but how I understood it.  

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Biden and the Left are living a dream. They are putting forth all these mandates not realizing that they are not achievable until years from now. Pure ignorance.  Remember this when you vote in the midterms. 

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It’s really simple. You make it reliable, reasonably priced we the people will buy it. We are living the results of forcing a mandate. Obama care was first now the war on fuel. The southern boarder still baffles me. It just doesn’t make sense. I think real soon it will become obvious. Payola and China. 

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1 hour ago, pokismoki said:

I dont get it, USA has a ton of oil in Alaska  thats un-tapped, why bother with this mpg limits??

 

Really? 

 

1.) Finite resource. Grandchildren might like to drive that 67 GTO in the barn someday. 

2.) Higher MPG also reduces emissions. Kind of a no brain thing. We all like to breath. 

3.) The higher the motor efficiency the more power it makes from less fuel. OR Way more power from the same amount of fuel.

 

Power per cubic inch has been on a steady rise since the first motors were designed. Imagine the tech used to get 50% eff on a modern 2 liter motor used on a 7.4 liter sized 60's motor.  

 

 

Try this a drool https://www.koenigsegg.com/gemera/engine-and-drivetrain/

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I’m seeing lately that Biden wants a waver on E-15 fuel blend to offset raising fuel prices. Ten cents a gallon is what’s being said. The problem is it causes pollution I’m hearing. Wouldn’t that be counterproductive in the global warming crowd? Proving once again the people in power haven’t got a clue. Ethanol is corn right? So let’s use more corn for fuel, brilliant. Didn’t I hear that there’s going to be a food shortage because of the war? Again brilliant. Corn is food. Last time I checked we can’t eat oil. Wait, Wait we have that here right? That also makes cars run. Shame we don’t have enough. Wait we do! Biden shut that down. So let’s go hungry and use corn for fuel. Do our leaders ever think ahead? Obviously not this bunch.

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1 hour ago, pokismoki said:

I dont get it, USA has a ton of oil in Alaska  thats un-tapped, why bother with this mpg limits??

Cause oil companies won't pump, refine, or sell it?  They have prices and net earning right where they want them and its not political.  It's profit driven.  Don't allow facts get in the way of blaming any president for oil issues. Big oil doesn't care who is in office. They are world wide profit makers.  The markets are world markets not national.  

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5 minutes ago, KARNUT said:

I’m seeing lately that Biden wants a waver on E-15 fuel blend to offset raising fuel prices. Ten cents a gallon is what’s being said. The problem is it causes pollution I’m hearing. Wouldn’t that be counterproductive in the global warming crowd? Proving once again the people in power haven’t got a clue. Ethanol is corn right? So let’s use more corn for fuel, brilliant. Didn’t I hear that there’s going to be a food shortage because of the war? Again brilliant. Corn is food. Last time I checked we can’t eat oil. Wait, Wait we have that here right? That also makes cars run. Shame we don’t have enough. Wait we do! Biden shut that down. So let’s go hungry and use corn for fuel. Do our leaders ever think ahead? Obviously not this bunch.

Once again you are so off base to reality its amazing but considering  the sources you listen to, read. Oh well you and 30% think Q is actually a person.   

 

E15 produces less emissions than E10.  AGREED feedstocks need to be other than field corn,  it's not hard to produce feedstocks from refuse cellulosic  sources.  So instead of dumping those you make it into  ethanol fuels. 

 

CRC got data back in 2013 time frame that was messed up to show ethanol producing more emissions, turns out it was the gasoline used to cold blend with the ethanol throwing off emissions readings. 

 

https://fixourfuel.com

 

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On 4/11/2022 at 10:56 AM, KARNUT said:

It’s really simple. You make it reliable, reasonably priced we the people will buy it. We are living the results of forcing a mandate. Obama care was first now the war on fuel. The southern boarder still baffles me. It just doesn’t make sense. I think real soon it will become obvious. Payola and China. 

Southern border a mess because both major parties won't fix it.  Like abortion, transgender issues, prayer in schools, gun rights, Q, CRT, all wedge issues to wedge the panties of  uninformed and naturally authoritarian leaning lemmings to vote for outright idiots who are literally taking voting freedoms away right as we read this.  

It's not party its being led to a slaughter of our collective real constitutional rights being taken away.  

 

Then there's the issue of screwing up central America for the past 150 years and people running from certain death there.  Some of it US atrocities and profit needs coming home to roost.  Anyone here fight in Nicaragua, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras in 80's?    I didn't think so.  

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Add Honduras since it was our main FOB

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