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2000DV4.8 Senior Enthusiast

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If the current woes continue for GM, do you think they will drop models such as the Suburban, Tahoe, and Silverado HD's

 

Suburban and Tahoe, not likely, and DEFINITELY not the HDs. People will still need trucks for their businesses, it would be just plain stupid to drop that section.

Zembonez Senior Enthusiast

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If the current woes continue for GM, do you think they will drop models such as the Suburban, Tahoe, and Silverado HD's

No way.

 

Those are some of the biggest selling (and profitable) models. First to go will be the non-money making stuff. There are plenty that are not profitable. Saab, Hummer, Saturn to name a few. Some of the midsize SUV stuff and surely some sedans will bite it. Look for the big 3 to start making models streamlined like the imports have done for years. Too many optional configurations is inefficient and slows production... which costs money they don't have. Model option streamlining should have been done decades ago. Instead, we just let Honda and Toyota kick our asses with that type of marketing for all of these years.

 

For some reason GM and other US carmakers say "that isn't what American car buyers want".

 

Bullshit.

 

Tell that to Honda and Toyota.

jbannick18 Enthusiast

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If the current woes continue for GM, do you think they will drop models such as the Suburban, Tahoe, and Silverado HD's

No way.

 

Those are some of the biggest selling (and profitable) models. First to go will be the non-money making stuff. There are plenty that are not profitable. Saab, Hummer, Saturn to name a few. Some of the midsize SUV stuff and surely some sedans will bite it. Look for the big 3 to start making models streamlined like the imports have done for years. Too many optional configurations is inefficient and slows production... which costs money they don't have. Model option streamlining should have been done decades ago. Instead, we just let Honda and Toyota kick our asses with that type of marketing for all of these years.

 

For some reason GM and other US carmakers say "that isn't what American car buyers want".

 

Bullshit.

 

Tell that to Honda and Toyota.

 

 

 

They really got to get ride of the same vehicle with a different badge on it, has to be one of the dumbest things i've seen. I don't know what they were thinking when they did that, appealing to different races? (not trying to start a flame war)

Z45 Senior Enthusiast

Z45

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Cadillac-Chevrolet-Buick-GMC is what they have proposed, Pontiac to have 1 model but the division will be gone.

 

They are not going to drop the Escalde, it a big seller. In 2009 they have a hydrid that gets over 20mpg city.

 

GMC will stay, big profitable brand. 1/3 of all the trucks/SUV's they sell carry the GMC brand. There's not reason to think those buyers would then buy a Chevrolet, they won't. Whats more its does not cost GM a lot to produce and market those brands.

 

HD PU truck sales have taken a big hit, they are threatening closing of the Flint truck plant. They will still make them but they are starting to see less of a demand.

 

General Motors issues Flint Truck Assembly Plant ultimatum

by Ron Fonger | The Flint Journal

Friday February 13, 2009, 8:51 AM

Thomas Simonetti |

Flint Journal filesGeneral Motors is giving workers at the Flint Truck Assembly Plant 30 days to approve a new local contract with concessions that include cuts in overtime.

 

FLINT, Michigan -- Union leaders say General Motors has spelled out the future for the Flint Truck Assembly Plant in the clearest possible terms: Approve a new local contract aimed at cutting overtime and other costs within 30 days -- or risk closing.

 

more

 

Flint Truck Assembly

Plant Summary

G-3100 Van Slyke Road

Flint, MI 48551

 

Division: Vehicle Manufacturing

Hourly: 2,931

Salaried: 266

Year Opened: 1947

Plant Size (sq. ft.): 3,700,000

Union Local: UAW 598

 

Production

 

Chevrolet Silverado Crew Cab

GMC Sierra Crew Cab

GMC Topkick

Chevrolet Kodiak

Isuzu T-Series

asilverblazer Senior Enthusiast

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I'll miss the Saturn Skyy. And those Buicks are pretty nice, like a real car and not something you get off the rental car lot (like the Impala).

 

Saab... What do they have?

VMax2007 Senior Enthusiast

VMax2007

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I'll miss the Saturn Skyy. And those Buicks are pretty nice, like a real car and not something you get off the rental car lot (like the Impala).

 

Saab... What do they have?

 

Jets :lol:

 

Oh and regarding the Impala comment.....fyou2.gif

(My wife's Impala is a nice ride!)

 

:D

Nick The Great Senior Enthusiast

Nick The Great

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I'll miss the Saturn Skyy. And those Buicks are pretty nice, like a real car and not something you get off the rental car lot (like the Impala).

 

Saab... What do they have?

 

Jets :D

 

Oh and regarding the Impala comment.....fyou2.gif

(My wife's Impala is a nice ride!)

 

:D

 

 

:lol: The Impala's are nice cars.

cc1999 Enthusiast

cc1999

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It was my understanding on what I have read, is that Chevy and Caddi will survive and GMC BUICK will as well. The rest are soon to be history it sounds like. I did see that Pontiac was to have a couple niche modles, but I suspect that will be a short lived with the Pontiacs.

 

The survivors are the money makers, and to me that makes sence, to keep those 4. Buick is there bread and butter overseas and still really popular with the blue hairs. GMC is still verry profitable here in the states.

 

I did sit in on part of a live webcast, that was on autoline detroit a couple days ago. It was mentioned that GMC and Chevy would be returning to more uniform body designs in there next update of the pickups, in order to cut back on the cost. Doing it the way the current 900s are, where all but the cabs are different sheetmetal, was a bit too expensive to continue. I would expect them to return to the likes of the 800s and 400s where the grills are the main differences. That is fine with me as long as they tone down the overstated boddy pannels of both of them.

asilverblazer Senior Enthusiast

asilverblazer

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I'll miss the Saturn Skyy. And those Buicks are pretty nice, like a real car and not something you get off the rental car lot (like the Impala).

 

Saab... What do they have?

 

Jets :cheers:

 

Oh and regarding the Impala comment.....fyou2.gif

(My wife's Impala is a nice ride!)

 

:lol:

 

 

:D The Impala's are nice cars.

 

 

Not as nice as a Lacross Super, in black with chrome trim.... mmm ...

Z71kris Senior Enthusiast

Z71kris

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I have nothing different to add, keep Chevy GMC Caddy, I think Pontiac and Buicks could be interchangeable for the most part, combine the best models from the two and run with it!

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