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$200 a day does not seem like alot of money to me looking at around 65 thousand maybe a year .Then time you take taxes off . I can make in the 60s thousand range being a commercial fishermen as a deck hand (would be a horrible life). To me 60 thousand if I wanted a family and some other things in life that is not alot of money to get around with in life.

Its all in budget and planing! I make 33k. With out my bonus and overtime. But i also dont have to pay medical Last years bonus was 63% of your gross

Yes in the end of year i made your 200 a day brcause of a good bonus but not $ you can count on or see every paycheck

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Find something you like that pays you for your professional skills, not hourly. You will be much farther ahead and not have to be a slave to anyone.

 

Once you start that, only spend half of what you make.

 

JMO, but just being another employee like everyone else is boring.

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Other things to look at my brother is a firefighter emt, pay is ok, not great but you work 24hr shifts 2 days 1 week and 3 the next week. Most of the guys he works with have side jobs/companys and do really well for them selfs

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would love to make around 120 thousand a year

 

Good luck with that. Sounds like you need to find a woman who is well off :lol: (sorry had to throw that out there)

 

On a serious note, anything in the medical field would be a good bet. My wife gets calls/emails/letters in the mail for physical therapy jobs. She could have a new job weekly and work anywhere if she liked. She only works part time and makes very good money.

 

just ran across this article

 

http://career-services.monster.com/yahooarticle/best-careers-2012#WT.mc_n=yta_fpt_article_best_careers_2012

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Look into skilled union construction trades. Mostly good pay rates with benefits including some type of pension. One draw back is usually no paid holidays or vacations unless by individual local agrements.

 

Mark

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Air traffic control....you can make anywhere from 50K-120K a yr depending on the facility you work in. Plus they'll send you to school and pay you while you're there. It's shift work because most places operate 24/7 but it's 8 hour shifts and 5 days a week....

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Look into skilled union construction trades. Mostly good pay rates with benefits including some type of pension. One draw back is usually no paid holidays or vacations unless by individual local agrements.

 

Mark

 

Its funny I have a test today in labor relations .
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go to school for heavy equipment operations.. they make a decent chunk of change

 

 

Get in line for that one around here. They are so backed up with operators in the hall the guys are starving, but you are absolutely right about their pay. Operating Engineers here make 70-80 an hour with union dues coming out of that. With overtime I have heard of them working 8 months out of a year and pulling 100K.

 

To the OP, use that degree you have. You can seriously take a business degree and turn it into about any career if you take extra classes or training when needed. My sister's buddy has an MBA and runs around with Nascar as a business promoter for Lincoln Electric. Talk about a kickass job and he went to school for business.

 

I have a Bachelors in Construction Engineering and Management aka I'm a project manager and I make only 40k a year right now. I have amazing benefits working for a municipality and over time my pay will increase with the more certifications I recieve and the more time I have here. You have to realize that you just don't come out of school or start a job making a killer salary. You have to put in your time and hard work to get a better salary.

 

The economy sucks right now and unemployment and wages will suffer because of it. I turn 25 next month, out of college 1.5 years, and I'm very fortunate to have a job and I respect that more than you will ever know. I was lucky and locked into an internship my soph year that turned into a full time position upon graduation.

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Look into skilled union construction trades. Mostly good pay rates with benefits including some type of pension. One draw back is usually no paid holidays or vacations unless by individual local agrements.

 

Mark

 

Its funny I have a test today in labor relations .

 

Where do you go to school? I remember that class when I was in college too, I would love to sit in on one now though...

 

I once was in the same boat you are. I went to college for business and then entered the corporate world. After 8 years and heavy depression medication, I decided to change things. I defaulted to the trade (Steamfitting and Pipefitting) that my family has been involved with for generations and I love it. The last few years have not been good for this line of work, but one has to hope that it won't be like this forever...

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Dirtfan, unless you're counting their insurance as part of that hourly wage, they dont make 70-80 an hr. If they told you that, they're lying or they're counting their insurance as part of their wages. I too also live in NW Indiana and know some people that run around in the operating engineers, I actually have some employed here where I work that got out of being an operating engineer for that specific reason of it being hard to find work. There are 5 pay grades here at my job, and lets just say that the hrly wage is quite a bit less than 70-80 an hour but these guys have said they've never made so much in their life.

 

I'd say continue w/ your degree OP and get into management, being seen as a punk kid is a fear that most younger people have going into management. There will always be that guy thats been around forever that wanted the job and is jealous. But, with that being said, I am 28, I started managing 24 employees and being responsible for $2.2million in product during my turn at the age of 23 (I graduated HS when I was 17 and went directly to college). Some of these employees have been here over 30 years, if you're decent and willing to learn, they will eventually respect you and listen to you. If you come in like some punk ass kid with a sense of entitlement, you'll have a rough road ahead of you in any industry type setting.

 

Oh and dirtfan, I saw your truck behind BW3's in valpo a few days ago, nice truck man. Either it was yours or someone else has one w/ the exact same mods.

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Dirtfan, unless you're counting their insurance as part of that hourly wage, they dont make 70-80 an hr. If they told you that, they're lying or they're counting their insurance as part of their wages. I too also live in NW Indiana and know some people that run around in the operating engineers, I actually have some employed here where I work that got out of being an operating engineer for that specific reason of it being hard to find work. There are 5 pay grades here at my job, and lets just say that the hrly wage is quite a bit less than 70-80 an hour but these guys have said they've never made so much in their life.

 

I'd say continue w/ your degree OP and get into management, being seen as a punk kid is a fear that most younger people have going into management. There will always be that guy thats been around forever that wanted the job and is jealous. But, with that being said, I am 28, I started managing 24 employees and being responsible for $2.2million in product during my turn at the age of 23 (I graduated HS when I was 17 and went directly to college). Some of these employees have been here over 30 years, if you're decent and willing to learn, they will eventually respect you and listen to you. If you come in like some punk ass kid with a sense of entitlement, you'll have a rough road ahead of you in any industry type setting.

 

Oh and dirtfan, I saw your truck behind BW3's in valpo a few days ago, nice truck man. Either it was yours or someone else has one w/ the exact same mods.

 

 

I was counting insurance in their pay, it is more like 30 to 50 take home depending on company and responsibility. Some OE's make closer to 50 take home because they are also the foreman on site. We have wage rate hearings the first of every year to set wages for all union workers that will be employed on city paid construction. Operating engineer was 72 an hour last time I checked, last year before their strike. By union dues I meant all that is taken out of their check that is not take home. Sorry for the confusion.

 

You definately saw my truck on Michigan behind bdubs if it was thursday night. Thanks for the kind words! :cheers:

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Dirtfan, unless you're counting their insurance as part of that hourly wage, they dont make 70-80 an hr. If they told you that, they're lying or they're counting their insurance as part of their wages. I too also live in NW Indiana and know some people that run around in the operating engineers, I actually have some employed here where I work that got out of being an operating engineer for that specific reason of it being hard to find work. There are 5 pay grades here at my job, and lets just say that the hrly wage is quite a bit less than 70-80 an hour but these guys have said they've never made so much in their life.

 

I'd say continue w/ your degree OP and get into management, being seen as a punk kid is a fear that most younger people have going into management. There will always be that guy thats been around forever that wanted the job and is jealous. But, with that being said, I am 28, I started managing 24 employees and being responsible for $2.2million in product during my turn at the age of 23 (I graduated HS when I was 17 and went directly to college). Some of these employees have been here over 30 years, if you're decent and willing to learn, they will eventually respect you and listen to you. If you come in like some punk ass kid with a sense of entitlement, you'll have a rough road ahead of you in any industry type setting.

 

Oh and dirtfan, I saw your truck behind BW3's in valpo a few days ago, nice truck man. Either it was yours or someone else has one w/ the exact same mods.

 

 

I was counting insurance in their pay. We have wage rate hearings the first of every year to set wages for all union workers that will be employed on city paid construction. Operating engineer was 72 an hour last time I checked, last year before their strike. By union dues I meant all that is taken out of their check that is not take home. Sorry for the confusion.

 

You definately saw my truck on Michigan behind bdubs if it was thursday night. Thanks for the kind words! :cheers:

 

 

 

See, stating that as their pay rate though is what creates the negative attitude towards union workers. People need to blame the insurance companies and their premiums, one person that is given insurance, its valued at something like $28k a year per person (that was the figure we were given about 6 years ago). So, technically, you could say that Myself, wife and child are making $84k a year. Is that fair? They never see that much money in their pocket. Oh, and no, I am not union, but I was.... .I actually jumped fence and became non-union in charge of my old union crew.

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How else would you state it? That is their hourly pay just like mine is way larger number before taxes, insurance, pension, etc. People just need to know what the hell they are talking about before jumping on the kill the union bandwagon.

 

Every single job out there advertises hourly as a gross pay. My employer wouldn't tell me my hourly rate after everything is taken out haha. I'm by no means trying to argue with you, I just don't know how else I could have put it. I said that was what they make before everything is taken out of their pay. It is the truth.

 

Clarification: I am a non-union government employee and have no opinion either way. I can't have one.

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I'm almost 66 years old... and still don't know what I want to do when I grow up!!! I've spent over 40 years in the water/wastewater industry. Most of this time has been in engineering and construction. My wife, who's put up with me for 45 years, and I have raised 3 great kids who are off and married and have good jobs. I've seen folks making a tad over minimum wage live well. I've seen folks who make 6-figures living pay check to pay check. No matter how much you make, you'll find a way to spend it.

Find something you like to do. As the commercial says, "If you enjoy what you do, you'll never work a day in your life." Truth be known, I've spent a fair share of my 40+ year career watching other people's poop. Again, working with other people's poop has provided well for my family. There are many opportunities working in water/wastewater in the municipal sector. Most municipalities have excellent pension and benefit programs. I you are looking at construction, look for companies that are in water/wastewater. Seems even during difficult economic times, people want to drink and people want to flush. My kids, many years ago, bought me a tee-shirt that said "Your poop is my bread and butter!" Find something in this industry, exhibit a good work ethic, and you won't want for work or pay.

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