Ziebart Undercoating

[Langer19]

Not sure where to post this but I'm looking to get the Ziebart Undercoating done when my truck is delivered for rust prevention and just wanted to see how people who have already had it sprayed on are liking it?

[MNDaveC]

What kind of price quotes are you getting?

 

Will it stick to the underbody where GM already applies some kind of waxy coating?

[Sierra Boy]

I think if you do that then GM will not warrant your truck for rust...better ask the dealer first.

 

Sierra Boy

[thetruck454]

My father had that applied on his 1990 chevy dump truck and his 1997 cabinet truck. Every year he would go back in and they would touch it up. Long term what happened is it trapped moisture and dirt under the coating and the body eventually rusted out the bodies on both trucks from the inside out.

[Langer19]

What kind of price quotes are you getting?

 

Will it stick to the underbody where GM already applies some kind of waxy coating?

Yeah it would stick to the underbody and haven't looked into pricing yet but I'm assuming it would be in the $500-$1000 range but they will inspect/touch it up each year which is what I liked about it.

 

I think if you do that then GM will not warrant your truck for rust...better ask the dealer first.

 

Sierra Boy

Definitely will ask the dealer but I would hope the rust would be prevented so I wouldn't have to use the warranty. Is it good for 3 years??

 

My father had that applied on his 1990 chevy dump truck and his 1997 cabinet truck. Every year he would go back in and they would touch it up. Long term what happened is it trapped moisture and dirt under the coating and the body eventually rusted out the bodies on both trucks from the inside out.

This wasn't what I was hoping for

[nuclearxp]

what thetrucks454 said - it voids your underbody warranty

[Langer19]

what thetrucks454 said - it voids your underbody warranty

Good to know, looks like I'll be staying away from it. Would something like Krown void it

as well?

 

 

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[nuclearxp]

Good to know, looks like I'll be staying away from it. Would something like Krown void it

as well?

 

 

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In the booklet in your glovebox when you bought your vehicle should be your owners manual, a few other things, including the "Getting to know your warranty" booklet. From mine it states:

 

Your vehicle was designed and built to resist corrosion. Application of additional rust-inhibiting materials is neither necessary nor required

under the Sheet Metal Coverage. GM makes no recommendations concerning the usefulness or value of such products.

Application of after-manufacture rustproofing products may create an environment which reduces the

corrosion resistance built into your vehicle. Repairs to correct damage caused by such applications are not covered under your New Vehicle

Limited Warranty.

[Daryl LBZ]

Of course it would say that. Why would they want you to use additional protection? Then they can't get you to come back in to buy a new one any sooner.

[COP TZR]

After 3years when rust starts and after 6years when holes start, they don't care. Don't be ignorant to the fact rust will happen. Do your part by considering their "recommendation", but think long term if you are going down that road.

Are the doors going to rust out before warranty expires, not likely. So maybe you could treat them. Is frame going to rust before warranty expires, probably yes, so leave as is and complain as loud as you can at any signs of peeling. Than recoat yourself in couple years if necessary. Most major rust protection companies offer red book value warranty not just the 3-6 years from build date like dealer.

I dealt with gm dealer and dealer rep once for previous model chrome pitted moldings and rusted bumpers within 60k km or 37k miles/2.5yrs, they replaced door pieces but no f'in way they were going to do bumpers. At end of day I paid for truck, I own truck and stuck with what I had.

[glcbn]

Funny that's in the manual. Most dealers will/should offer you rustproofing. Had it done to three new vehicles over the last 16 years. Did not affect the warranty.

[kstruckcountry]

Krown is know to be a solid product... Highly doubt it would void any warranty.

[Langer19]

Yeah I'll just have to see what the dealer offers and says and go from there. The dealer will offer some sort of rust proofing I just have to see what kind and how much when my truck is finally delivered

 

 

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[COP TZR]

Only thing I see dealer offering is electronic module. I remember at least 5 years ago a demo car on its side at gm dealer with display of half spray protection vs electronic, they said spray will void warranty, electronic will not.

[Ventilator]

I live in Michigan, the road salt king. Michigan uses more road salt than any other state in the nation, and by a wide margin. I rustproof all my vehicles, because I buy my vehicles to keep for several years. Been rustproofing them for 35 years. I have used Zeibart before, but do your research, they may not be the best choice for your area. They all use the same basic products, but they don't all do it the same way. Zeibart drills holes in panels which introduces small chips That drop down, and I don't have to tell you what happens over time to those.

 

The company I use now, through the dealer (important), does not drill any holes in panels. They have developed application equipment and ways to access all panels by using existing holes.

 

I have never had any issue where a dealer did not honor any warranty work due to rustproofing, undercoating, sound deadener, etc,. Never even questioned.

 

I do see every day the downside of not rustproofing vehicles in Michigan. Rams will have full rust through above the rear wheels in as short as 5 years, 6 to 8 years on the Fords and GM's.

 

The resale/trade in value is much higher on a truck that has been rustproofed as well. Easily recovering your initial investment/costs.

 

If you live in an area that doesn't use salt on the roads, then it may not be something to even consider. Here they salt the paved roads from as early as October, and as late as April. They brine the gravel roads all the rest of the year. This is all corrosive, and there is no escaping it. When it rains, your vehicle gets coated in not only mud, but highly corrosive mud that sticks like glue. Where I live, out in the boonies, 2-1/2 miles from the nearest pavement, it's a no-brainer. YMMV!