2019 Silverado Hitting the lots!!

[ZSTIV]

On 8/9/2018 at 9:31 AM, Payton34 said:

Laura GMC has a 2019 Denali https://www.laurabuickgmc.com/VehicleSearchResults?search=new&year=2019

They're discounting them 5k already! Someone is going to get a nice deal on a brand new truck! 

[Loco-diablo]

On 8/10/2018 at 6:29 PM, GMC-AT said:

Also... whoever at GM decided it was a good idea to mount the 2019 side mirrors to the body... should be shot

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I'd have to sit behind the wheel before I made a judgement call.. The current door position ain't so great IMO

[Loco-diablo]

I;m looking at a new RAM right now outside my office window! Laramie longhorn.. metal flake black with a football colored leather interior. Looks to be loaded with every conceivable option.  Very nice truck indeed.

[Sierra Dan]

I work down the road from a RAM dealer and I can tell you that the 2019's are not moving much.

Probably why they have been discounted roughly $9500 (see commercial).

 

I work right behind a Chevrolet dealership. They have had 6 new 2019s and 4 of them have sold in the past 2 days

2 high countries, 1 trail boss and 1 LTZ    2 LT's are left on the lot.

 

[mookdoc6]

12 hours ago, captain chaos said:

See? Nearly every single one of Rams "advantages" comes from features. Bigger touch screens, bigger sunroof, coolers in the floor, vented rear seats.........where are the mechanical advantages? Towing benefits? More power? Stuff that makes a truck a better TRUCK? My Ram mostly has failed me in the electronics dept requiring many trips to the dealer....and It's just a mid grade trim! I could imagine what happens when the 12" TV screen craps out, or the dial shifter fails (which they do all the time) and the air ride? Around here in the great white north its comical how many brand new Ram trucks have all or part of the air ride fail in cold weather causing a lowrider effect.

 

If GM responded similarly to Ram we would have no new towing tech, no new 10 speed transmission, no new inline 6 diesel, no 2.7 T4 option, no DFM (take it for what its worth I guess) and while we're at it lets go back to the numbers the 6.2 was putting out back in 2013 as its comparable to Rams output today. Ram left all its powertrain options be as they were in the past, no power bump for the Hemi, and no transmission changes (they now trail GM and Ford by 2 gears) 

 

So, how happy would y'all be with a GM with a big TV, softer leather, pano sunroof, more funky coated trim bits on the dash (and not all of them are of high quality on the ram) a few more tech toys to impress the neighbours that you'll ultimately never use, and really, really bland styling?

 

I may have went with another Ram if the updated the engines and transmissions and did more with the exterior styling. I tow a bunch, go hunting, quading,  and generally use my rigs as a truck. GM has many features that i really like that have real benefits for use. 

 

If I were GM, I would build a Cadillac version of these new trucks. Throw the 500+ Hp Twin Turbo caddy V8 in it, a world class interior with suede and leather slathered everywhere, put every-single- electronic gimmick known to man, make a sunroof big enough to drive a Fiat 500 through, a full independent rear suspension with magnetic ride on all four corners, and put a $100K plus tag on it. It'll blow every other truck out of the water while testing just how much folks will pay for a luxo truck. But I really hope they keep advancing the common guy trucks, leave the glitz and chrome for the Cadillac version.

Exactly!  Ain't fooling me Ram.....What about 10years from now?  How about 15-20......Folks it's not going to be the Ferd ecoboost or the Technology laden Ram....with leaking Panoramic roofs and non functioning screens of nothingness?  I will take the CHEVY any day of the week.  Everybody who rides in my 2016 or drive it all say the same thing....I wish my vehicle was this easy to operate?  

[Ron.s]

I’ve owned a $hit load.of new GM trucks starting 40 years ago and have always tried to convince myself that they were wonderful. I hate Fords but for the last decade they have led in many ways including sales. Ram has come a long way in recent years and are closing the gap on GM & Ford. The thing I hate most about GM is the Warranty or lack of..... I keep my truck about 3 years and there are always small issues that they won’t fix.

My 2016 is at the dealer now for 4 issues that are repeats not fixed. I actually video issues that I can to prove they exist. Monday I drove to the dealership to demonstrate that my external temperature wasn’t working. As I expected it was OK when I dropped it off....intermittent issues are the worst.

GM requires that issues are such that the dealer can verify them...even though some are known and widely reported. Others are considered normal even though they really aren’t. I.e. driveline lash, wind noise drivers window, etc.

GM pays peanuts for diagnostics time and a dealer loses money on some issues trying to help the customer. There is no incentive for the mechanic since all work has preset time allowances. This is  the only way they can control costs and I assume similar in the industry.

My point is that a Quality assessment should be a bigger part of the buying decision and GM hasn’t had  good ratings for years. If you don’t care about minor things that don’t work then go for it. Major component failures are covered.  I love my quiet cab until I hit the road and get increasing wind noise. This will be my last custom order and I hate to say it but I’m going to test drive Ford and Ram this time.

[Saskquatch]

The more i read about these new trucks the more I think of them as over engineered products with a confused target audience. 

 

I really dont think they care as long as they sell.... But i sure wont be buying. My 2016 base sierra better last....

[amxguy1970]

On 8/10/2018 at 5:29 PM, GMC-AT said:

Also... whoever at GM decided it was a good idea to mount the 2019 side mirrors to the body... should be shot

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Why? Because it looks a little funky? I promise it was done for strategic reasons probably tied to aero, wind noise and mirror performance. Looks isn't everything (should actually manner very little in the decision process but that is all I hear complaints about and I can't help but laugh).

 

Tyler

[Sierra Dan]

If GM wants to reach the podium top in truck sales, they need to beat Ford at pricing.

If RAM can do it so can GM.

 

 

[Ravenkeeper]

The only ‘19s on the nearest dealership lot, are 25/3500s.  They are not advertising any ‘19 1500s.

 

When are they supposed to get to the dealerships?  Although, there are some great deals on the ‘18s and very few ‘17s left out there.

[newdude]

11 hours ago, Ravenkeeper said:

The only ‘19s on the nearest dealership lot, are 25/3500s.  They are not advertising any ‘19 1500s.

 

When are they supposed to get to the dealerships?  Although, there are some great deals on the ‘18s and very few ‘17s left out there.

 

They've been arriving all over the US at the moment.  Cars.com has almost 1000 listed, some delivered to dealers and the dealers have pictures, some still in transit. 

[Black02Silverado]

Depends on the location of the dealer.  Here in a small town they couldn't order one back in May like some dealers were allowed to.  One is on the lot now, a fully loaded LTZ sticker at $62k. So if you want discounts then i guess you need to travel the country to find and get them.  The dealer here  isn't gong to move off sticker for at least 6 months I would imagine, so they can get rid of the left over 2018's. The disadvantage to living in a rural area.

 

As for the mirrors, I'm sure it was all done via wind tunnel and noise factor, otherwise why change it.  Just wish they would have released towing mirror info.  You can get a Max Tow package but no information on what mirrors come with it.

 

One thing I'm surprised they still have on the trucks is the antenna.  Why?  Our 2016 Suburban doesn't have one on the right front fender.

 

Also all the complaints about not being able to get the 6.2 in other trim like the Trail Boss.  It all boils down to CAFE.  That is why Ford is only offering the Raptor engine in the F150 now but only in the top trim level from what I can tell.

[Sierra Dan]

CAFE in some instances is a joke.

Dodge can sell 700+ horsepower Hellcat's all day long but GM cannot put more 6.2L in trucks?

Granted more trucks are purchased than Hellcat's!

If you want a 6.2 in a Trail Boss configuration for now, look at the Sierra AT4 ( if you can get past the grille)

[Black02Silverado]

1 minute ago, Sierra Dan said:

CAFE in some instances is a joke.

Dodge can sell 700+ horsepower Hellcat's all day long but GM cannot put more 6.2L in trucks?

Granted more trucks are purchased than Hellcat's!

If you want a 6.2 in a Trail Boss configuration for now, look at the Sierra AT4 ( if you can get past the grille)

CAFE might be a joke but it is what it is and so it rules what can be done.  Sad but that is life.

 

Remember the GM has the Corvette and Camaro with low mpg's to sell so they have to watch what else they sell.  Other than the Hellcat and Demon what does Dodge have and like you said, how many are really sold compared to Corvettes and Camaros.

 

Hence why GM came out with the 4 cylinder for the trucks.  To please the CAFE group.

[shift_grind]

38 minutes ago, Black02Silverado said:

CAFE might be a joke but it is what it is and so it rules what can be done.  Sad but that is life.

 

Remember the GM has the Corvette and Camaro with low mpg's to sell so they have to watch what else they sell.  Other than the Hellcat and Demon what does Dodge have and like you said, how many are really sold compared to Corvettes and Camaros.

 

Hence why GM came out with the 4 cylinder for the trucks.  To please the CAFE group.

People like to claim Cafe is the reason for a lot of things, but it just doesn't hold much water.  It boils down to being more of GMs own agenda.