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Paintor Enthusiast

Paintor

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Have not had to ever add any motor oil between oil changes with AFM disabled.

 

Use the Hypertech MaxEnergy 2.0 to disable AFM. $350

 

That programmer is worth every penny.

 

 

GMCShack Enthusiast

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Again, not trying to thread jack or anything, but what is available for the DFM technology?  I know Range Technology says they have one coming and I have written to ask if they know when and to be put on the list for the first batch and even offered to beta test if needed because I wouldn't even mind a short term disabler until a proper tune can be done.  The auto start/stop is easy to defeat but I want to be able to disable and control the DFM on my 2019 GMC Sierra Denali 3.5L engine which I do not use for towing, have another truck for that. I am more than happy to start a new thread for DFM technology discussions if it doesn't belong here, but I didn't see one so I just threw my question in here.  

16LT New Member

16LT

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I've got about 7k with the range in the past 6 months. I have noticed zero issues so far. I'll be pissed if I ever have any warranty issues because I would definitely get a tune.

the33z33 Enthusiast

the33z33

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Plugging in these AFM disablers doesn't trip the flash counter the dealer sees when you try to bring it in for warranty work, does it?

wforrest08 Senior Enthusiast

wforrest08

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59 minutes ago, the33z33 said:

Plugging in these AFM disablers doesn't trip the flash counter the dealer sees when you try to bring it in for warranty work, does it?

According to Range no it doesn’t. If you take it in for regular maintenance remove it and plug it back in afterwards. If going in for major repairs/ emissions testing remove 10 key cycles prior to taking it in.

TRKLGND Enthusiast

TRKLGND

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On 5/8/2019 at 11:54 AM, Sierra Dan said:

Yes, a true Deletion not a plug in disabler.

The Rough price is for the kit only.

$750 for the cam and lifters and another $750 for a tune.  Getting quite expensive. And it completely voids any type of power train warranty.

Jchoi Enthusiast

Jchoi

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On 5/6/2019 at 12:20 PM, Bonjosco3ss said:

Mine is range and works fine but I have to take it out for about 2 weeks before inspection is due otherwise it won’t pass. It wouldn’t let my computer run complete tests.

I’m in upstate NY. Are you downstate where there are more restrictive tests?

Bonjosco3ss Enthusiast

Bonjosco3ss

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I’m in upstate NY. Are you downstate where there are more restrictive tests?

I’m in Staten Island but he state inspection is just a plug in. Not a safety. With the range plugged in it never let my computer run its monitor tests. So I had to drive it 2 weeks with out it plugged in. That’s all.
Jchoi Enthusiast

Jchoi

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40 minutes ago, Bonjosco3ss said:


I’m in Staten Island but he state inspection is just a plug in. Not a safety. With the range plugged in it never let my computer run its monitor tests. So I had to drive it 2 weeks with out it plugged in. That’s all.

Hmm. I’m due an inspection in two weeks.  I wonder if I should do the same? Has anyone else in NY run into the same issue?

 

Silverado-Hareek Senior Enthusiast

Silverado-Hareek

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On 5/7/2019 at 2:25 PM, Sierra Dan said:

True AFM disabling/deletion is possible.

The Kit is around $750 plus labor. This is a permanent solution

 

On 5/10/2019 at 1:30 PM, paracutin said:

$750 for the cam and lifters and another $750 for a tune.  Getting quite expensive. And it completely voids any type of power train warranty.

All you need is a tuner that will turn off the AFM.  You don't need any aftermarket parts, it's simply a software issue.  BlackBear can do this with one of their custom tunes or you can just buy something like a Diablo tuner for $300 and turn it off yourself.

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