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8 minutes ago, customboss said:

BTW this has become a good discussion. Whether you agree with current situation or not. 
Peckish synapse discussion is helpful. We all want what’s best for our families and country. 

I can’t wait to see how all the tariff stuff plays out. Do I think prices could rise short term, possibly. Can you imagine if our industrial complex gets stronger. We can have more influence over our advisory’s by increasing oil production? Stop Iran from getting money through oil unless they behave.  All these policy’s aren’t new. Kennedy, Regan and Clinton did different versions of the same thing and we prospered. It’s not Rocket Science. It’s a path well worn.

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Posted
26 minutes ago, KARNUT said:

I can’t wait to see how all the tariff stuff plays out. Do I think prices could rise short term, possibly. Can you imagine if our industrial complex gets stronger. We can have more influence over our advisory’s by increasing oil production? Stop Iran from getting money through oil unless they behave.  All these policy’s aren’t new. Kennedy, Regan and Clinton did different versions of the same thing and we prospered. It’s not Rocket Science. It’s a path well worn.

We are gonna see. Putting tariffs on our two

largest trading partners is a brutal

play and tariffs are taxes on consumers so how long that tax lasts while we leverage them is TBD. 

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Posted
44 minutes ago, customboss said:

We are gonna see. Putting tariffs on our two

largest trading partners is a brutal

play and tariffs are taxes on consumers so how long that tax lasts while we leverage them is TBD. 

Maybe there will be an offset. I agree we’ll see.

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Posted
10 hours ago, KARNUT said:

You obviously have never been in a situation where you had to depend on other people for information. I guess you expect the most powerful person to go over the government spending report himself. His point obviously is on cutting expenses. That was an example. There are many others. You want to call the most powerful person a liar because someone gave him bad info. You’re being ridiculous. And showing your stripes. I guess you never gave wrong information based on another’s research. I believe in a perfect person. It’s not you. You called a man a liar. He’s definitely not going to do that willingly. It to easy to fact check. I guess you can’t even consider it may have been a setup. You claim not to political, your statement was. You claim to be fair and not judgmental, you obviously were. Then you quote scripture. Hypocritical. 

 

Yea, that's  the reason. :rolleyes: 

 

So, researchers are at fault? For nine years? Lets run that down the rational rabbit hole with the actions in example of a guy named Joe Schmoe. 

 

1.)  Joe hires researchers and they feed him lies, he fires them. Still he hired them and once in awhile someone can fool the best of us. Granted. But if Joe goes many years, a decade say, and can't hire a good ones, then, he's incompetent. Period, full stop.  

 

2.) If Joe doesn't fire them and keeps them knowing they are unreliable, he's Incompetent. Period, full stop.  

 

3.) If they are competent and feed Joe the truth and he ignores it, then he's just choosing to lie and am by definition a liar. 

 

So Stan, which one is it? You choose. Is a Joe incompetent or a liar. 

 

Why you making this personal? The topic is TRUTH not Trump. It is the topic of the ENTIRE THREAD. :idiot:

 

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Posted
5 minutes ago, Grumpy Bear said:

 

Yea, that's  the reason. :rolleyes: 

 

So, researchers are at fault? For nine years? Lets run that down the rational rabbit hole with the actions in example of a guy named Joe Schmoe. 

 

1.)  Joe hires researchers and they feed him lies, he fires them. Still he hired them and once in awhile someone can fool the best of us. Granted. But if Joe goes many years, a decade say, and can't hire a good ones, then, he's incompetent. Period, full stop.  

 

2.) If Joe doesn't fire them and keeps them knowing they are unreliable, he's Incompetent. Period, full stop.  

 

3.) If they are competent and feed Joe the truth and he ignores it, then he's just choosing to lie and am by definition a liar. 

 

So Stan, which one is it? You choose. Is a Joe incompetent or a liar. 

 

Why you making this personal? The topic is TRUTH not Trump. It is the topic of the ENTIRE THREAD. :idiot:

 

Really we’re not that stupid. Or maybe you think we or I am. Of course it was about Trump. At least you know where I stand. I think he’s the right person at the right time. You don’t that’s fine every one is entitled to their opinion. If you claim you don’t have one. Brother I don’t believe it for a minute. The man’s been office a few days and he’s had time to vet everyone? Get real. 

Posted
1 hour ago, Grumpy Bear said:

 

Yea, that's  the reason. :rolleyes: 

 

So, researchers are at fault? For nine years? Lets run that down the rational rabbit hole with the actions in example of a guy named Joe Schmoe. 

 

1.)  Joe hires researchers and they feed him lies, he fires them. Still he hired them and once in awhile someone can fool the best of us. Granted. But if Joe goes many years, a decade say, and can't hire a good ones, then, he's incompetent. Period, full stop.  

 

2.) If Joe doesn't fire them and keeps them knowing they are unreliable, he's Incompetent. Period, full stop.  

 

3.) If they are competent and feed Joe the truth and he ignores it, then he's just choosing to lie and am by definition a liar. 

 

So Stan, which one is it? You choose. Is a Joe incompetent or a liar. 

 

Why you making this personal? The topic is TRUTH not Trump. It is the topic of the ENTIRE THREAD. :idiot:

 

Psssst, #3 

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, KARNUT said:

Really we’re not that stupid. Or maybe you think we or I am. Of course it was about Trump. At least you know where I stand. I think he’s the right person at the right time. You don’t that’s fine every one is entitled to their opinion. If you claim you don’t have one. Brother I don’t believe it for a minute. The man’s been office a few days and he’s had time to vet everyone? Get real. 

 

Let's circle back a few pages to this....

 

On 1/31/2025 at 3:07 PM, Grumpy Bear said:

 

He's sure DEI is responsible for the air crash. But when pushed by the press pool on the source of his remarks it boiled down to "Well....it could be true". 😬 IT COULD BE TRUE?? :dunno:  Really??

 

So he lies. He tells you he's lying and you still think that even when he admits to a lie he's telling the truth? 

 

 :idiot:

 

Go back to the first quote and tell me how I can not possibly draw that conclusion. You have zero defense and yet you insist. 

 

Stan, do you remember my stance on IRRATIONAL ARGUMENTS? Well, you leave me no choice and yet you had one. 

 

 

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22 minutes ago, Grumpy Bear said:

 

Let's circle back a few pages to this....

 

 

So he lies. He tells you he's lying and you still think that even when he admits to a lie he's telling the truth? 

 

 :idiot:

 

Go back to the first quote and tell me how I can not possibly draw that conclusion. You have zero defense and yet you insist. 

 

Stan, do you remember my stance on IRRATIONAL ARGUMENTS? Well, you leave me no choice and yet you had one. 

 

 

You’re only convincing me absolutely you were targeting Trump. Sure doesn’t mean absolutely yes. It leaves wiggle room. As he stated as you pointed later. When he said it could be. And as we’re learning it could be true. It a combination of factors or could be a combination of factors. Only a lie in your mind because you want it to be. And that doesn’t make it so. 

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2 hours ago, KARNUT said:

You’re only convincing me absolutely you were targeting Trump. Sure doesn’t mean absolutely yes. It leaves wiggle room. As he stated as you pointed later. When he said it could be. And as we’re learning it could be true. It a combination of factors or could be a combination of factors. Only a lie in your mind because you want it to be. And that doesn’t make it so. 

 

 I said I'm not having an irrational argument with you?  You are too intelligent to be this thick. THINK Stanley THINK. 

 

Now, if you must. Have the last word. Be my guest. 

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Posted
9 hours ago, KARNUT said:

They’re not many people who could have handled what has come his way in the last 10 years. Just in the last few days Jeffies has called for fighting Trump policy’s in the streets. He gets a pass. Trump says peacefully protest. They say he caused a riot. It’s just so slanted.

I have to clear this up. Trump did say to peacefully protest, but he said it in the beginning of the speech. He then went

on for over an hour about how the election was stolen giving specific details that were very believable. His closing words were to fight like hell and to march over to the capitol.

 

Nobody influenced me to think like this. In fact I was mostly a trump supporter until I did my own due diligence on j6. I thought it was all make believe until I decided to imagine myself being there listening to that speech. I honestly might have stormed the capital too.


He’s such a piece of ****** for that speech.

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We’ve have expressed our thoughts on this and there’s nothing more to gain at this point. I’m going to be happy for the accomplishment that will get us back on course after the destruction and chaos of the last four years. And watching with joy as people begin held against their will are returned to their homes. Especially the children who were sold into unspeakable situations, some already found. Only in this situation because of the policy of the past. Some will happily try to find flaws in the man, we all have them. I will see hope in the future as a country gets set right. Some will joyfully look for bumps in the road, there always are. I will observe the steady movement in the right direction. We’ve seen this movie before we know how it ends. This man did it once. He will do it again. 

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This be me pumping the brakes guys.

 

Admin just tapped me on the shoulder so we can get back on topic OR the tread will get locked down. I prefer it isn't. So let's put the stick in some other none political pot. No pointing, no blaming, just poly-silence. 

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Y'all had your free time. Stayed civil but lets dial it back a notch. I'd like to discuss this stuff as much as y'all.

i hear this stuff everywhere else, don't need to hear it here too. :)

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The sermon this Sunday was lifting up people around you. I try to do that. I have a blessed life. I met my wife early in high school an army brat. Used to living a frugal life. Some simple tips to live an upper middle class life on a lower middle class income. Buy a modest first home. Pay it on a fifteen year program. So while my kids were in school we paid off our first mortgage. We shopped at resale shops. My wife drove certified pre owned cars. My wife started working after the last kid started school. All her money was for investments and an IRA. Her first new car was a in 1994 an Impala SS. When we sold it years later it was worth more than we paid for it. She only drove it as a daily for a year recognizing it was an investment. That was just lucky. The second home, the current one we put enough down to equal the previous mortgage paying it off in ten years. By this time the average middle class income was double. The rest of the first home money built our rental on the back of the property. My car addiction was handled with an allowance and my ability to refurbish and turn over classic cars and trucks. Not dinging the budget. I don’t do Starbucks. On trips we do value meals. When I want water on a trip. I go into whatever truck stop I got gas with my tumbler. Put ice fountain water. I have yet to be charged for that. We have never bought new furniture. But we have the best you can buy, many antiques. Most from moving sales or garage sales. Appliances are new. Pretty frugal right? Now our vacation, hobby. Ready, we go to casinos and play cards. About 8-10 times a year multiple nights. Anywhere from 0-8K a year total all paid for from rent from the rental house. How so cheap. We like paigow poker. Sometimes all afternoon  usually 200$ each that’s if we had a bad day. In return our meals, lodging and drinks are comp. Sometimes I wonder to slots. Usually they comp free play. They usually have drawings, slot torn tournaments etc. This hobby, vacation only works if you have willpower. They are designed to suck money out of you. We hunkered down hard the first part of our life. Then it was a breeze. All while building a family business. Talk about a grind. But that’s another more interesting story.

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