Lack of dealer inventory of 2500 Silverados

MTU Alum · September 30, 2020

5 hours ago, flyingfool said:

including the covid shutdown, i think its part of the new enviroment rules coming down the pipeline. GM's probably scrapping the trucks. it doesnt make sense, i dont see many trucks on the roads , not more than usual. GM is getting ready to switch completly to full electric trucks soon, maybe they want gassers off the lots to meet emmissions requirements

govenor in California has signed a bill banning the sale of gas powered vehicles withing several years... big changes coming . end of an era

GM is not scrapping trucks. The majority of HD trucks are sold before they hit dealer lots. I know a lot of you think electric trucks are stupid but they are going to allow the vehicles you like to continue to be produced. V8 motors would go away without electric to offset them.

#iworkforGM

flyingfool · September 30, 2020

i think its odd there are no T1 1500s on the lots, maybe GM pulled them due to the the horendous transmission issues. something it up. and I'm not seeing many T1's on the streets so i dont believe they are being sold out

MaverickZ71 · September 30, 2020

6 hours ago, MTU Alum said:

GM is not scrapping trucks. The majority of HD trucks are sold before they hit dealer lots. I know a lot of you think electric trucks are stupid but they are going to allow the vehicles you like to continue to be produced. V8 motors would go away without electric to offset them.

#iworkforGM

You're right. Electric trucks are stupid. SAVE THE ENVIRONMENT screams Greta. Greta needs to pull her lil head out and realize that the billions of batteries required are not good for the environment. NO MORE COAL/FOSSIL FUELS screams Greta/Sleepy Joe Biden/Kamela Heels Up Harris. Just where do the snowflakes think all of the additional electricity is going to come from? Certainly not expensive solar or wind power. And not nuclear either, thanks to the NIMBY movement. California cannot generate enough electricity for their needs (hence their rolling blackouts) now. Also, just where do they think all of the plastic/carbon fiber to manufacture their fantasy Prius-wannabe vehicles and the necessary lubricants to keep them moving are going to come from? Petrochemicals, (good old fossil fuels again) that's where. For real people that have to work for a living, just how is an electric truck going to work on a job site 100 miles from nowhere where it has to use 4x4 and pull a trailer in and out of the job site, and on top of that it may have to run 24 hrs day after day to provide light and HVAC for the workers?

By the way, this will make the auto engineers/EPA/tree huggers run to their safe rooms for therapy: Out here in 'flyover country' where real people and their vehicles have to work hard for a living, lots of people still cut the catalytic converters off their trucks and/or drive older diesel models with the emissions deleted, because otherwise, if you drive deep into a pasture, etc., in July or August, you're going to start a grass fire that will end up burning half of the (big) state before they get it stopped.

Edited September 30, 2020 by MaverickZ71

i82much · October 1, 2020

15 hours ago, MTU Alum said:

I made a typo. Should be around 1200 per day. I don't know flint exact numbers but most truck plants were running at one truck minute pre covid. They probably are running a little slower now. Flint runs three shifts so about 21 hours a day pre covid. They maybe running a little slower now to increase time between shifts to reduce covid exposure.

#iworkforGM

ok yeah, that sounds about right!

Stand By · October 1, 2020

There was also a strike into last fall. Then when allowed to open from the covid lockdown, I believe there were supply issues from vendors catching up. Then, recently the American Axle fire, not certain if it affected 2500s directly, but being in Michigan along with the Flint plant for the 2500s, I'd suspect they were effected?

redwngr · October 3, 2020

In 2019, gm said they have 4,100 dealers in the USA.

https://www.gm.com/our-company/us.html#:~:text=In 2019%2C there were more,Motors dealers in the U.S.

Canada has about 10% of that, say +/- 450.

Lets assume 4500 dealers in total.

1200 per day x 5 days = 6000 (7200 if the build 1200 more on weekend)

6000/4500 = 1.3 trucks per dealer per week... (1.6 per dealer if they build 1200 on weekends)

Assuming that dealers are still trying to sell the ones available, it'll take a long time to go current 'low' inventory to the fullish lots from before last fall's strike and the winter/spring covid shutdown.

We've done a bunch of road tripping the last week or so.

I find it quite amazing the number of dealers we've been by that I know had crammed full lots in late summer 2019, that have huge amounts of empty space this week. They're even parking them further apart than usual to make it look like there is more there.

It's not just new HD trucks that are in short supply.

And not just GM lots that have thinned out.

It'll be interesting to see where this goes.

Stand By · October 4, 2020

Having bought at the end of April, I just got a letter from the dealer asking to buy it back and they would give me a deal on a new one stating high demand for used. Of, course nothing mentioned about how long is have to wait.

Colossus · October 5, 2020

Dealers make the most money off of service departments and used vehicle sales. Very little on new vehicle sales.

99-ls1-ss · October 19, 2020

It's the same scenario in central North Carolina. There are 2 Chevrolet and 2 GMC dealers within 15 miles of my house. Both GMC dealers had 1 2500 and 1 3500 and the Chevrolet dealers had 1 2500 on their lots. It's crazy. I asked about having one built and he told me it could take 12-15 weeks.