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$75.00 from GoGoautoshop for V1 can, google it

I got it for $80 w/free shipping. started offer price at $75.00.

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EXSlider400
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This is a write up on installing an ADD W1 oil catch can on a 2014 5.3 Denali with a few thousand miles.   I like the RX can but after some research, the ADD can had good reviews as well. so fo

southern_sierra
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That does make since and if it did work the extra filter just something elese to worry about.   Did your truck come from the factory with to much engine oil just wondering. Mine is over full about a

WendysOrBust
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Well this issue is not specific to our trucks. If you look around at any other car/truck forum everyone is having the same issues. Over on the F150 forums, this is an issue on both the 5.0 and the 3.5

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Ebay selling these for $89.99. There is also a version 2. Are these knock-offs?

No, that's actually a few dollars high. They sell between $75 and $85 usually.

Spurshot Senior Enthusiast

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This is after 800 miles installed with media in the filter part:

 

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That picture was taken yesterday morning. Shows you just what is going through your engine

 

 

Shoot, you're gonna be able to have enough for an oil change pretty soon! :lol: Alright, I'm convinced. I ordered a separator.

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Shoot, you're gonna be able to have enough for an oil change pretty soon! [emoji38] Alright, I'm convinced. I ordered a separator.

Yeah man, no joke! Crazy that it vents into your manifold. My dad asked why don't I just dump it back into the oil. I then showed him that picture with the water mixed in and he was like "oh okay, nevermind don't poor it back in" lol
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Yeah man, no joke! Crazy that it vents into your manifold. My dad asked why don't I just dump it back into the oil. I then showed him that picture with the water mixed in and he was like "oh okay, nevermind don't poor it back in" lol

 

Don't worry about the water in it. The oil temp will steep it out. I'm putting on a closed loop system that will drain back into the pan. I'm sure I'll trap some for a while to see how much is getting caught. But after a while, I know it's going to loose its entertainment value. I want a system that is low maintenance.

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Don't worry about the water in it. The oil temp will steep it out. I'm putting on a closed loop system that will drain back into the pan. I'm sure I'll trap some for a while to see how much is getting caught. But after a while, I know it's going to loose its entertainment value. I want a system that is low maintenance.

 

it has a gasoline smell to it (may be just in my head)..... it's additives/detergents or it's inherent chemical properties may break down your oil if introduced?? Just thinking?

 

I would love for analytical test to be ran so we can see what is actually in it....

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Don't worry about the water in it. The oil temp will steep it out. I'm putting on a closed loop system that will drain back into the pan. I'm sure I'll trap some for a while to see how much is getting caught. But after a while, I know it's going to loose its entertainment value. I want a system that is low maintenance.

 

Yeah I don't think you're supposed to do this man. Otherwise it would just come from the factory this way which solves the valve buildup issue and the PCV issue. One of the main reasons manufacturers don't install catch cans from the factory is because it requires the driver of the vehicle to check it often and drain it. That's a tough sell to a soccer mom in her Suburban. If all they had to do was catch the oil and route it back to the oil pan, they would have already gone this route.

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That's why I bought a "separator" instead of a "catch can". A separator system like the OEM types return the oil to the sump. The moisture isn't the issue I'm trying to solve.

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That's why I bought a "separator" instead of a "catch can". A separator system like the OEM types return the oil to the sump. The moisture isn't the issue I'm trying to solve.

 

Moisture aside though, the oil that's captured in a catch can isn't 100% oil either and shouldn't be returned to your pan. Admittedly I'm not that well versed in engines but someone here explained this concept in the oil catch can thread because someone else had the same idea of trying to trap the oil and pipe it back into their engine. You're talking about the oil trapped from the PCV gases right?

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That's why I bought a "separator" instead of a "catch can". A separator system like the OEM types return the oil to the sump. The moisture isn't the issue I'm trying to solve.

So, what brand/model did you buy? I've been thinking of going with the Moroso Air-Oil Separator, but it doesn't return the oil to the sump.

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So, what brand/model did you buy? I've been thinking of going with the Moroso Air-Oil Separator, but it doesn't return the oil to the sump.

I bought a type that has a relief valve and an overpressure valve, along with a drain back to the pan. These type of systems are used on OEM installations.

 

http://www.gm-trucks.com/forums/topic/154204-oil-catch-can/page-51?do=findComment&comment=1602918

 

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I bought a type that has a relief valve and an overpressure valve, along with a drain back to the pan. These type of systems are used on OEM installations.

 

http://www.gm-trucks.com/forums/topic/154204-oil-catch-can/page-51?do=findComment&comment=1602918

 

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So there are some OEM setups routed this way?

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So there are some OEM setups routed this way?

BMW, Mercedes, semi trucks, aerobatic airplanes (including mine) and others.

 

I look at the probability of forgetting to service the catch can type system as very likely. The consequence of allowing a catch can to fill completely is that oil will literally be pumped into the intake until the can oil level falls below the level that is possible. I would imagine it would be in spurts. Those may or may not be enough oil to damage the engine. I'm not willing to go down that road. Hell, I can't even remember a doctor's appointment.

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BMW, Mercedes, semi trucks, aerobatic airplanes (including mine) and others.

 

I look at the probability of forgetting to service the catch can type system as very likely. The consequence of allowing a catch can to fill completely is that oil will literally be pumped into the intake until the can oil level falls below the level that is possible. I would imagine it would be in spurts. Those may or may not be enough oil to damage the engine. I'm not willing to go down that road. Hell, I can't even remember a doctor's appointment.

Interesting I'll have to read into that more then. I was under the impression you couldn't do this but I guess I'm mistaken. It would definitely be much less headache to not have to worry about emptying the can or the can overfilling. That's my one complaint about the RX can you have no way of knowing how full it is. I've been draining it every 500 miles to get an idea of how full it's getting so I don't let it get too full and accidentally pull more oil into the intake.

 

 

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