Future of GM Trucks

[RyanbabZ71]

Speaking of push to start I just saw a Ram 1500 limited commercial that had it.....

Plus you get a giant RAM emblem on the tailgate lol

 

 

Ryan

[Tattooo]

Plus you get a giant RAM emblem on the tailgate lol

 

 

Ryan

Yeah that looks hideous to say the least

[JerryCanada]

Yeah Ive heard they are descent little towers. But like I said their towing capacity is still the lowest amount among most V8s in the half tons at only 8k lbs. Plus beer math doesn't work on the purchase. The engine package cost an extra 3000 bucks. The Combined average MPG on the eco diesel is 22 where is as the combined for the 5.7 is 19. Now factor in diesel cost 50 cents more. National average for diesel right now is 25 cents more, up here where I am its 50 cents more. But by using the average gas prices that eco diesel cost 11.5 cents per mile if your getting the combined of 22mpg. The 5.7 with a combined average of 19 nets you 11.6 cents per mile. So youll never pay back the premium on that engine, and Im not so sure due to the prices of fuel youll ever save money that way.

To each their own. They get a half ton diesel out. I'm going to do what I can to get my hands on one.

[nards444]

To each their own. They get a half ton diesel out. I'm going to do what I can to get my hands on one.

I love the idea trust me Im with you. But spec the ram, run the numbers and don't let novelty or the world diesel cloud the facts. The ecodiesel ram is a great idea, and from a few reports its not a bad truck. But for something that can haul 7900lbs cost 3k more than a gas engine, and provides marginal to no savings in MPG, I cant see how makes sense beyond saying yeah I got a diesel.

 

Rams goal was to sell 20% of their trucks with these things, but only have been only doing 9%. I think the idea is there but customers are weighing their options and saying 240hp, 5.7 can tow almost 3k more, and fuel savings are marginal, and aren't buying it. You put that bad boy at 300hp, tow 10k and get 25-30mpg it would sell no doubt. sad part is Nissan came out with the right package, its sad because the engine is a cummins. http://www.nissanusa.com/trucks/2016-titan/

[Tattooo]

I love the idea trust me Im with you. But spec the ram, run the numbers and don't let novelty or the world diesel cloud the facts. The ecodiesel ram is a great idea, and from a few reports its not a bad truck. But for something that can haul 7900lbs cost 3k more, and provides marginal to no savings in MPG, I cant see how makes sense beyond yeah I got a diesel.

Kind of defeats the purpose

[IOMike]

Half ton diesel sounds good until you see the towing and payload specs and realize it's about maxxed out with 4 people and a 12 pack in it. I just don't get the appeal. Then it's like 3-4 grand for that option, which makes it the worst performing truck on the market (see acceleration, payload, towing barely beats v6 gas trucks).

 

Colorado has higher payload and basically matches it in towing - A midsize truck with a 4 cyl TD beats the Ram ED.

Nissan has the right idea for diesel, but it's so blasted ugly.

[Tattooo]

It sure is ugly

[nards444]

Half ton diesel sounds good until you see the towing and payload specs and realize it's about maxxed out with 4 people and a 12 pack in it. I just don't get the appeal. Then it's like 3-4 grand for that option, which makes it the worst performing truck on the market (see acceleration, payload, towing barely beats v6 gas trucks).

 

Colorado has higher payload and basically matches it in towing - A midsize truck with a 4 cyl TD beats the Ram ED.

Nissan has the right idea for diesel, but it's so blasted ugly.

And its Nissan, lol. I said the same things you did. Dodge will sell some of these, because its like scratch and sniff to some guys when they hear diesel. But like you said the specs and numbers put it on par with V6 half tons and you pay more than V8 half tons for the ED. This will flounder for dodge unless they upgrade it. But I applaud dodge for the forward thinking and maybe another manufacture will make it work. GM did come out with this in the 90s I believe and it failed, although the engine was junk. The inherent issue with a half ton is putting a diesel engine in that truck that matches exceeds capability of the gas engines, but all the while getting good MPGS and not costing a fortune up front. No one wants to a diesel half ton that does less than gas, has to pay more for it, and only saves marginally on fuel. The problem I fear is you cant get an engine in a half ton to make sense. You'll either have a monster but will cost to much putting pricing into 3/4 ton land and having bad MPG, or your going to have something that's really good on MPG but fails at towing, of which I don't think the market will accept either scenario.

[Omar1]

Weird, no one likes bigger fuel tank idea?

[MikeNH]

Weird, no one likes bigger fuel tank idea?

I'd like it. But no one will ever use an aluminum frame. Ford just does body panels and their weight "loss" is crap- Ford has had a weight problem for a decade. They're now about the same as a GM truck.

[Omar1]

I'd like it. But no one will ever use an aluminum frame. Ford just does body panels and their weight "loss" is crap- Ford has had a weight problem for a decade. They're now about the same as a GM truck.

The curb weight isn't the same. Ford super crew short bed 4WD weighs 4850 lbs and GM same configuration weighs 5350 lbs. if GM managed to shedd 700 lbs it would be 4650 lbs curb weight. Beside getting 40 gallon fuel tank we are talking around 900 miles fuel range.

[MikeNH]

Maybe an XL stripper crew cab but not one anyone wants to own. It's been proven Ford was full of shit with the weight savings. Last test car and driver did they were within 300 lbs.

[SSam]

My $.02...

 

I would like to see in order:

• Real SS version
• HUD
• 360 cameras
• Push start
• Rear heated seats
• Rear HVAC vents
• Better sun roof options

As a previous owner of a '03 Ariel Blue SS, I miss it. It was relatively slow, AWD and got BAD MPG, but it was a SS and is missed.

 

My 2014 CC LTZ, before it gave it's life to protect me, was nice, but was not a SS. It did have great air bags...

 

-S

[2004lebanshee]

can someone explain the importance of a push start? I just don't see how that is soo much better then turn start. Does it really matter? Same goes for rear vent. I don't sit back there and I really don't care.

 

Bigger tank

Air ride suspension

Steel skids

Air front Locker

How about your upgrading the standard motor so it has more power then Dodge or Ford. Seems like GM never wants to have more power then anyone.

Actual leather seats and not this plastic crap.

Powder coated frame and suspension

Dome lights that actually allow you to see something at night. I hate new LED lights

[Tek74]

I personally would love to see an Offroad worthy, gas guzzling, Raptor/Rebel Rival.

 

 

I would also like to see GM offer an "attractive" Baja-style competitor to the Raptor with a 6.2L engine. I'm not a Ford guy, but have to admit that they did a really good job with the Raptor. If I had stupid money, I would buy one as a 2nd truck. If GM made one, they could call it the Baja 500 or something snazzy like that.

 

I would also like to see GM re-release the Silverado SS with a 6.2L super-charged engine, but much more evil-looking than the previous one. It should have a classic Hot Rod look with a working hood scoop, CAI, after market exhaust, and nice factory tune.