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I had a 2011 5.0 with 3.73 rear end. Good engine.

 

Compared to my 2014 5.3 with 3.42, I think it the 5.0 has a little more top end grunt. But the 5.3 will get better mileage and be pretty similar everyday driving should be pretty similar.

 

Its gonna come down to what rear end the trucks have. Apples to apples....it would be a close race.

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I took one from a 50 roll and we were dead even when he was 100% stock and me on 33s and just the CAI and i have 3.08s.

 

Now well... He cant hang since the exhaust headers and the tune lol

 

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It'll be pretty close. The trucks are similar in weight. Like Fondupot said, the 5.0 makes a bit more top-end power. The 6-speed in both trucks have very similar gear ratios, so axle ratios will make or break things. Make sure you fill up with 89+ octane or E85 before you go play.

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Dont let brand loyalty blind you. The Coyote engine is damn stout. Now, with the aluminum body, a 3.73 geared f150 will give a 6.2 a good race. 6.2 will eventually pull the 5.0,but its not by much. Showroom stock, equal gearing, id say the f150 is probably a few tenths quicker in the quarter.

 

To make matters worse, the 5.0 is due for a power bump. If Ford ups the size to 5.4ish,or starts using Di, the gm 6.2 will have some serious competition.

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The 5.0 with 3.55's ran a 15.29 @ 93.8 mph and the 6.2 with 3.23's posted a best run with a 14.34 @ 97.6 mph.

 

http://special-reports.pickuptrucks.com/2015/01/2015-light-duty-v-8-challenge-quarter-mile.html

 

The 5.0 may get DI some day but displacement won't change any time soon unless they design a new engine. The 5.0 is bore space limited. The weight advantage is pretty small with most trims.

 

It's a great V8, huge improvement over the 4.6/5.4. It's too bad Ford devotes so much time pushing the EB line. The 5.0 seems to be ignored besides minor tweaks here and there.

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It's a good engine. Similar Power made higher in rpm where chevys make it lower rpm. Chevy way less complicated of an engine to make similar power with displacement.

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The 5 liter in a crew cab truck is not stout..... it's a bloody dog. The new aluminum trucks while lighter aren't night and day over the previous generation weight wise and it's still a zero torque rev happy puny V8 in a pig of a pickup. Put it in a regular cab short bed 2wd and it moves alright.... anything else forget it. A reg cab short bed no option 2wd 5 liter can probably beat a 6.2 Denali pickup..... barely...... stock for stock. That's about it.

 

I had 2 F150's previous to this truck and they both had 6.2's in them..... neither were Raptors either. The one was a cheapie XLT 4WD double cab.... the mouthy 5 liter owners enjoyed tailgate.....

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The 5 liter in a crew cab truck is not stout..... it's a bloody dog. The new aluminum trucks while lighter aren't night and day over the previous generation weight wise and it's still a zero torque rev happy puny V8 in a pig of a pickup. Put it in a regular cab short bed 2wd and it moves alright.... anything else forget it. A reg cab short bed no option 2wd 5 liter can probably beat a 6.2 Denali pickup..... barely...... stock for stock. That's about it.

 

I had 2 F150's previous to this truck and they both had 6.2's in them..... neither were Raptors either. The one was a cheapie XLT 4WD double cab.... the mouthy 5 liter owners enjoyed tailgate.....

Stock for stock both crew cab short box the 2011 5.0 F150 Lariat has more balls than my friends 2014 5.3 SLT
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Chris, on 25 Apr 2016 - 11:27 AM, said:Chris, on 25 Apr 2016 - 11:27 AM, said:Chris, on 25 Apr 2016 - 11:27 AM, said:Chris, on 25 Apr 2016 - 11:27 AM, said:

Stock for stock both crew cab short box the 2011 5.0 F150 Lariat has more balls than my friends 2014 5.3 SLT

 

That's nice..... I don't like the 5.3's either in these trucks of any age lol...... but that's not what I was talking about..... That said stock for stock the 5.3 trucks seem to have no problem hanging with the 5 liter Fords in nearly any test any car rag has so how 2 random unknowns performed really doesn't matter a lot. The Ford in a crew 4X4 is a mid to low 15 second truck...... Woopee dooo....

 

In a regular cab with a good driver could the 5.0 rip off a 13 second something..... yep...... they can, and do!

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Imagine a Chevy with four cams.

 

 

 

Ahem, ZR-1 motor from 1990 for apples to apples comparison, but then there is the whole 25 years later debacle.

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I drive a 2012 F150 ext. cab with the 5.0 and 3.55 gears daily, it is my company work truck. IMO my ext cab 5.3 with 3.42 gear has a little more get up and go off the line but the 5.0 definitely makes more power when it hits the higher rpms. If I had to guess I would say in a 1/4 mile they would be pretty close to one another. My ford work trucks "anti-slip" or whatever you call it kicks in much more than it does in my chevy. I am off road quite a bit and have to remember to turn it off anytime I am off pavement, especially when I want to stay in 2wd.

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I test drove a '15 f-150 5.0 and I would agree it doesn't have the low end the new 5.3 has, but up top it pulls much harder. The f150s also have much better throttle response compare to gm's laggy throttle.

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I drive a 2012 F150 ext. cab with the 5.0 and 3.55 gears daily, it is my company work truck. IMO my ext cab 5.3 with 3.42 gear has a little more get up and go off the line but the 5.0 definitely makes more power when it hits the higher rpms. If I had to guess I would say in a 1/4 mile they would be pretty close to one another. My ford work trucks "anti-slip" or whatever you call it kicks in much more than it does in my chevy. I am off road quite a bit and have to remember to turn it off anytime I am off pavement, especially when I want to stay in 2wd.

 

I have a 2014 5.0 EXT Cab F150 for work with 3.55 gears as well. Compared to my 6.2L, it is a dog and gets about 3 mpg worse mileage.

 

 

 

It's a good engine. Similar Power made higher in rpm where chevys make it lower rpm. Chevy way less complicated of an engine to make similar power with displacement.

 

Complicated is an understatement when it comes to the VVT on the 5.0L.

 

From WIKI

 

"The Coyote features all new 4V DOHC cylinder heads that have shifted the camshafts outboard, which allowed for a compact roller finger follower setup with remote hydraulic valve lash adjusters and improved (raised) intake port geometry. The result is an intake port that outflows the Ford GT intake port by 4 percent and the Yates D3 (NASCAR) intake port up to 0.472" (12 mm) lift, which is the maximum lift of the Coyote's intake cams. Engine redline is 7000 rpm.[13]

The Coyote is Ford's first implementation of its cam-torque-actuated (CTA) Twin Independent Variable Cam Timing (Ti-VCT) in a V8 engine, which allows the power-train control module (PCM) to advance and retard intake and exhaust cam timing independently of each other, providing improved power, fuel economy and reduced emissions. The engine is assembled in Ford's Essex Engine Plant in Windsor, Ontario, using existing Modular tooling.[14]"

We run strictly F150s with 5.0Ls where I work. This "twin independent variable cam timing" has been the root of 8 separate head jobs that were required on the trucks once they hit 50k miles. It seems common for the timing of the intake and exhaust valves to go south and the result is a rough sounding engine and feels like it wants to quit on you. CEL comes on, off to the dealer for a 20 hours labour head replacement.

These issues alone have shifted my view on Ford's engines, I think the Ecoboosts could be more reliable in this aspect but then again we haven't had any. We have since started to phase out F150s and returning to F250s with the 6.2L.

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