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Dunc Enthusiast

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I run amsoil in the bikes, and thought about it for the truck. However personally, I won't put it in the truck simply because it's not dexos approved. If something happened to my engine (even unrelated to oil) and they found amsoil in it then I'm sure that would be a nightmare warranty claim. No way I'm risking that on a new engine.

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Daryl LBZ Senior Enthusiast

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I run amsoil in the bikes, and thought about it for the truck. However personally, I won't put it in the truck simply because it's not dexos approved. If something happened to my engine (even unrelated to oil) and they found amsoil in it then I'm sure that would be a nightmare warranty claim. No way I'm risking that on a new engine.

From what I've heard they would send the oil out to a lab to be tested. As long as the Amsoil meets the minimum Dexos requirements (which it is claimed that it does) then they can't deny a warranty claim based on the oil.

 

Just got an email from Amsoil stating that preferred members will be getting extra benefits starting May 2nd. For example reduced shipping costs. Works for me.

txab Senior Enthusiast

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I run amsoil in the bikes, and thought about it for the truck. However personally, I won't put it in the truck simply because it's not dexos approved. If something happened to my engine (even unrelated to oil) and they found amsoil in it then I'm sure that would be a nightmare warranty claim. No way I'm risking that on a new engine.

There is no "nightmare scenario". Quit worrying

Black02Silverado Senior Enthusiast

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AMSOIL is a quality product that you can count on. Here is a UOA (used oil analysis) from a customer of mine that I change the oil for. He has a 2014 Chrysler Town & Country with the 3.6L V6. He runs the AMSOIL OE 0w-20.

 

If anyone is interested, send me a PM and I'll get you a quote delivered to your door. :)

This oil run was a tad longer than the previous one.  So it's nice to see most of the wear metals holding low and steady.  Copper actually dropped a little and we generally don't complain about improvements.  The flashpoint does showa little fuel but you can get a trace just from normal use. Insolubles measured at a trace as well and that shows excellentoil filtration. The TBN is getting low at 1.9 but there is still a little active additive left here.  Try 11,000 miles on the next oil.OIL             AMSOIL OE 0w-20  OE 0w-20MILES IN USE    9,086             8,417          MILES           67,703           52,073       SAMPLE TAKEN    4/11/2016        10/23/15ALUMINUM        3              3          CHROMIUM        0              0IRON            7              7COPPER          15             23LEAD            0              0TIN             0              0     MOLYBDENUM      80             66NICKEL          0              0    MANGANESE       0              1    SILVER          0              0    TITANIUM        0              0    POTASSIUM       2              0   BORON           73             34   SILICON         8              12   SODIUM          6              7  CALCIUM         2089           1939MAGNESIUM       8              9 PHOSPHORUS      710            625ZINC            796            706BARIUM          0              0                       SUS VIS 210ºF   52.9          56.4          cSt @ 212ºF     8.15          9.19      FLASHPOINT ºF   380           395Fuel%		TR            <0.5	   Antifreeze%     0              0Water%          0              0INSOLUBLES      TR             0.1     TBN             1.9            3.5TAN
Z45 Senior Enthusiast

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I run amsoil in the bikes, and thought about it for the truck. However personally, I won't put it in the truck simply because it's not dexos approved. If something happened to my engine (even unrelated to oil) and they found amsoil in it then I'm sure that would be a nightmare warranty claim. No way I'm risking that on a new engine.

I have used AMSOIL for over 30 yrs and use nothing else. They been making synthetic oil since 1972, several years before Mobil 1 came on the market.

 

I use it in my GMC since about 3,000 miles and the dealer installed it for me.

 

Every time you buy a bottle of oil with the dexos label GM makes money. Dexos, it's a pay to play scheme that GM is using to bilk money out of lubricant manufacturers.

Dunc Enthusiast

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Every time you buy a bottle of oil with the dexos label GM makes money. Dexos, it's a pay to play scheme that GM is using to bilk money out of lubricant manufacturers.

Yep, I just don't want to give them any opportunity for denying a warranty claim if I needed to make one. I mean I use amsoil everywhere else, but I just won't use it in my truck while the warranty is active.

Z45 Senior Enthusiast

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A warrantor cannot, as a matter of law, avoid liability under a warranty where a defect is unrelated to the use by a consumer of ‘unauthorized’ articles or service.

Badass69 Senior Enthusiast

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Amsoil 5W30 Signature only and I run extended drain intervals.... or will. Did it for years in my 05's 6 liter and now will do the same with the 6.2 in my 2015 Silverado. Switched to Amsoil in the 15 at 4000 miles ( did one free oil change and that was enough lol) and it's at 20000 miles now. Yes I know they spec 0W20 water...... I really don't care.

fondupot Senior Enthusiast

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Amsoil 5W30 Signature only and I run extended drain intervals.... or will. Did it for years in my 05's 6 liter and now will do the same with the 6.2 in my 2015 Silverado. Switched to Amsoil in the 15 at 4000 miles ( did one free oil change and that was enough lol) and it's at 20000 miles now. Yes I know they spec 0W20 water...... I really don't care.

 

uh....so you're running 5w30 in your 6.2? Not a good idea.

diyer2 Senior Enthusiast

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IMO

0W20 or 5W30.

 

Not worth the concern.

Badass69 Senior Enthusiast

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fondupot, on 29 Apr 2016 - 08:07 AM, said:

 

uh....so you're running 5w30 in your 6.2? Not a good idea.

Uh.... same engine in Corvette under RPO LT1.... 5w30... Yes... Corvettes have wet or dry sump.... same 5W30 oil spec. 0w20. ... fuel economy spec water.... I have Corvette cam timing tables and whatnot in my engine anyway... may as well make it legit lol.

 

I will say I am glad you didn't say "tight tolerances" .... I love that.... like that somehow gets interpreted that bearing clearances are magically nill...... which they aren't. Tolerance and clearance are 2 entirely different terms...... and quite frankly the tolerance is BS anyway as the acceptable error is no greater than any LS.... or previous Gen 1 small block lol. It's a fuel economy marketing thing like every other manufacturer has pushed..... just means that the 0W20 was the minimum spec oil they could get away with during testing and have stay within acceptable protection limits. Here's a hint.... go dump 0W20 into a newly broke in Vortec 350 in a 96 Chevy truck..... guess what...... it won't explode or pile up.... or wear out any quicker lol. Oil pressure at hot idle might be a little lower (just like my 6.2 in my truck) but otherwise it will live... within reason. I run 5W30 as it's easily found locally in Amsoil and I buy it in bulk and run it in all my vehicles.

 

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HondaHawkGT Senior Enthusiast

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GM even specs 15w50 for racing/track events. They say you must replace it with 5w30 or other dexos oil weights immediately afterwards though. The LS and LT engines seem to really cook the oil during racing events haha. The corvette guys have reported some pretty high oil temps during track racing. I believe they even dropped the synthetic blend recommendation recently. Full synthetic only. From what I've read, its change made as a result of all the Corvettes C7's blowing up the last couple years.

Sierra Boy Enthusiast

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I want to run Amsoil in my 2015i GMC 2500 HD when the free oil changes runs out, what grade do I use

 

and how much oil does it take? Napa Gold or Wix filter # does it take?

 

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