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Sad thing for our Ford friends is they cannot use a chemical direct induced valve cleaner such as Seafoam, CRC or Gumout as the chemicals in these products may run the turbo system. Lots of discussions on f150forum.com about this.

 

hmmm.....Gm reconfigured the intake/outlet ports on their heads to minimize the problem recently......hmmm.....go check out the Ford Ecoboost boys forums all coked up at 50,000K.....hmmmm Ferd's new 3.5 EB has completely addressed this seemingly made up problem of GDI's coking the valves to Mt Rushmore granite hardness!All of which are facts and all of which can be found on the internet......interesting!

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Silverado-Hareek
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I'm running a similar experiment with a coworker. He and I have the exact same truck. He's maintaining his like you normally would...87 octane gas from wherever, regular oil changes, no valve cleaning

FL335i
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As an owner of one of the first DI's hitting the market in '07 (BMW 335i) I'll give you the readers digest version of all this hoopla. The gas you run never touches the valves so don't get to caught

jamesonjc
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neither of those have DI engines

15 Z71 Senior Enthusiast

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I'll let you all know down the road how mine does. No catch can,no valve cleaning going to change oil and drive it. Just like I have done with all my other trucks.

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Just under 2800 miles on my 2016 now in just over 5 weeks.................................I can count the miles on ONE HAND that my truck has been in V4 mode. I use M5 exclusively around suburbia empty and towing my work trailer, as my speeds rarely exceed 50mph. I use the "Range" AFM delete device for long highway travels in order to use the 6th gear!!!

 

The oil level on my dip stick hasn't changed at all since ownership. I added an Elite catch can though at less than 500 miles on the clock.

Silverado-Hareek Senior Enthusiast

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I'll let you all know down the road how mine does. No catch can,no valve cleaning going to change oil and drive it. Just like I have done with all my other trucks.

I'm running a similar experiment with a coworker. He and I have the exact same truck. He's maintaining his like you normally would...87 octane gas from wherever, regular oil changes, no valve cleaning, no catch can, etc. I'm running 89 shell gas exclusively, catch can, and BG induction services every 15k miles to maintain the valves. I have about 34k miles and he has about 50k. We're going to see how both trucks are doing around 100k to see if what I've been doing has been worth it or a total waste of money. I'll keep the forum updated as well.

 

 

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Well I've had my truck for a couple months, and I've put about 6000 miles on it. So I should find out how the valves do in short order lol.

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I'm running a similar experiment with a coworker. He and I have the exact same truck. He's maintaining his like you normally would...87 octane gas from wherever, regular oil changes, no valve cleaning, no catch can, etc. I'm running 89 shell gas exclusively, catch can, and BG induction services every 15k miles to maintain the valves. I have about 34k miles and he has about 50k. We're going to see how both trucks are doing around 100k to see if what I've been doing has been worth it or a total waste of money. I'll keep the forum updated as well.

 

 

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Would love to hear about this!

Silverado-Hareek Senior Enthusiast

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I will it may take some time seeing as I drive about 13,000 miles a year on average haha. But I will post a new thread about it regarding long term results.

15 Z71 Senior Enthusiast

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It is weird with these engines. My wife has a 2011 Acadia with 60,000 miles on it no engine problems what so ever. My mom has a 2011 traverse with 40,000 miles on it. Had to have the valves cleaned, dealer said they were full of carbon on them. She also used gas where ever she could get it the cheapest. My wife has only ever used top tier fuel. So maybe it does work..who knows.

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It is weird with these engines. My wife has a 2011 Acadia with 60,000 miles on it no engine problems what so ever. My mom has a 2011 traverse with 40,000 miles on it. Had to have the valves cleaned, dealer said they were full of carbon on them. She also used gas where ever she could get it the cheapest. My wife has only ever used top tier fuel. So maybe it does work..who knows.

neither of those have DI engines

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That's about 24000 miles on my 6.2... The intake valves look just fine.

 

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neither of those have DI engines

I'm pretty sure on top of the plastic cover that's on top of engine says"VVT direct injection 3.6." Is this not the same type?
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As an owner of one of the first DI's hitting the market in '07 (BMW 335i) I'll give you the readers digest version of all this hoopla. The gas you run never touches the valves so don't get to caught up on that front, worry about the octane and freshness for your use. Only walnut blasting is the remedy. How often.... that's a subjective item that depends on YOUR car and actual carbon build up. I went 65k on my 335i and never had issues. The BMW dealers have special blasting equipment and walnut media. (Google walnut blast 335i) For a 335i, it was approx a $900 job at the dealer, $500 at the indies. Intake manifold comes off, blast the valves and reassemble. The only OTC medicine is CRC's German mechanic in a can. $14 later, it seems to work, especially if you use it more frequently than trying to use it every 50k. I've used one can on my K2XX and am due for another now. The consensus on the E90 forum was IIRC 50k intervals for blasting cars with no symptoms. Again, camera your valves and make your own decision. The only preventative measures you can do is run a catch can. I opted for a ADD W1 can with some baffle material. the amount of oil it catches in one oil change is mind boggling. I've spent WAY too much of my life on this topic. I read stuff where Toyota was toying with putting in an injector behind the throttle body to combat this long-term issue in their engines (Guess Toyota wants to keep that brand reputation of long term longevity). This is an issue that will affect the people who keep their vehicles longer than the warranty. So at the end of the day, the fuel injection has come full circle. From a TBI, to SFI, to TPI, then the DI and now we're back to where we started in 1987. An injector in the throttle body. My '14 has almost 52k on it now (yes I drive a lot). No issues on this front. I'm also confidenced a lot of Hwy driving and a pair of heavy Red Wings help combat the issue. I recommenced the USA made Red Wings model 606, they really help prevent carbon build up... my truck is proof. In all seriousness, some people get way too worked up over this. I've seen this on two forums now since 2007. The sky still hasn't fallen, 335i's are still running around and so are DI cars from GM and other makers. Install a catch can, run the CRC stuff frequently and sport your 606 red wings on the skinny pedal. Move on in life.

 

This topic makes me always think of something an older guy I work with tells people. Sometimes technology is not always better. In the 1960's the US spent $12M to develop a pen that wrote in space. Guess what the Russians used? A F'n pencil.

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