Jump to content

Black Silverado Detailing Help


Recommended Posts

Posted

Hello, long time lurker here. Just decided to join and see what its all about. I have a 2013 Camaro, and my pride and joy 2008 Silverado, with 6 inches of lift and a whole lot of other goodies. I bought the truck bone stock, and have slowly started to build it over the last few years.

My question today is about detailing it, I have just started an interest in detailing. My Silverado is black, and it has a ton of deep swirl marks. I have tried many products to try and take it out (M. Ultimate compound, Turtle wax speed compound, Turtle wax polish, Turtle wax Hard shell wax, and a few others.) and nothing seems to want to remove them. In the direct sunlight you can see massive amounts of swirl marks. After using the Ultimate compound on a buffer it seemed to take out a little of the marks but not really enough to be noticeable. I've read that Ultimate compound is one of the harshest compounds out there. Even that doesn't want to remove these swirl marks. I applied some Turtle wax hard shell wax and that seemed to make the paint pop but there was still swirl marks noticeable.

 

Thanks for any/all help!

post-173205-0-80603500-1495715073_thumb.jpg

post-173205-0-71052700-1495715074_thumb.jpg

post-173205-0-80798900-1495715075_thumb.jpg

post-173205-0-50801100-1495715076_thumb.jpg

post-173205-0-80603500-1495715073_thumb.jpg

post-173205-0-71052700-1495715074_thumb.jpg

post-173205-0-80798900-1495715075_thumb.jpg

post-173205-0-50801100-1495715076_thumb.jpg

post-173205-0-80603500-1495715073_thumb.jpg

post-173205-0-71052700-1495715074_thumb.jpg

post-173205-0-80798900-1495715075_thumb.jpg

post-173205-0-50801100-1495715076_thumb.jpg

post-173205-0-80603500-1495715073_thumb.jpg

post-173205-0-71052700-1495715074_thumb.jpg

post-173205-0-80798900-1495715075_thumb.jpg

post-173205-0-50801100-1495715076_thumb.jpg

Posted

Are you polishing by hand or with a machine? YOu mention buffer what kind?

 

Check out www.autogeek.net

 

I find blackfire polish and meguires M105 to work well on scratches and swirls

Posted

I have tried both by hand and with a rotary and DA buffer. DA buffer seems to cut much better then by hand or the rotary.

Posted

Its an art for sure. Takes practice and the right tools, but still takes time and patience to get results. But more importantly is keeping it swirl free after you get it looking nice for as long as you can. With black, its not long till they start showing up again. For me, i hang out at the Adams forums to learn. They have plenty of videos and a great forum community to learn from. Plus they have the products to get you there. Now I'm sure there are other places to get your info and products from. But thats where I'm comfortable at, and I like their product line. Good luck

Posted

^That's what my recommendation would be. Do some homework to research cutting down on creating swirls. 2 bucket washes with grit guards and microfiber are good strategies.

Posted

Compared to others especially with all their sales they aren't that expensive.

 

 

Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Posted

Adams products are worth it, imo.
Now Chemical Guys have too many products of the same thing.
Meguairs is probably the best at places like Wal-Mart and places like that.

Posted

Meguiars M105 to remove heavier swirls followed by M205 applied with correct pads followed by a good wax after. Look for Junkman videos on youtube or Autogeek or Detailed Image. Good luck with black it can literally wear you out trying to keep it clean and swirl free.

Posted

I've been a detailer for 40 years and the first thing you need to do is NEVER do circles when doing any kind of waxing or glazing by hand...ALWAYS follow the body lines. Another words, straight lines will give you better results and minimize swirls in Black or any color of paint.

 

I would use Imperial hand glaze by 3M to get rid of swirls...small amount will do along way. Small sections at a time and remove after half a hood or trunk lid and so on. Love Adams products and use them but are more then store brand products but will have better results using Adams. Love Americana wax for dark colors {old tub with plastic Black lid} have not used the new and improved Americana on new paint just as yet but has the Blue top. Take care of that paint and use TWO buckets to keep containments out of the water/soap.

 

Lastly...the sun is not your friend when washing/waxing. Cloudy day or inside is best!

 

post-136299-0-52903500-1496098453.jpg

 

Sierra Boy

post-136299-0-52903500-1496098453.jpg

post-136299-0-52903500-1496098453.jpg

post-136299-0-52903500-1496098453.jpg

  • 3 weeks later...
Posted

^^^Good advice. Don't use circle/swirl motions when buffing or waxing a black vehicle. Always follow the body lines and use horizontal or vertical motions. Also, on my last black vehicle, I used black wax, which seemed to fill the little imperfections much better than lighter colored waxes.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Latest Articles

  • Posts

    • Of course actually engaging four wheel drive is step one or even daring to use a ramp like that with a two wheel drive and getting into a mess because of it. As to 4 low, these last few years if its a GM half ton it may not even have low range. A lot of the newer pickups have a lot lower first gear in an automatic transmission then they once did as it was common at one time for a gas engine truck or even the older diesels to just sit there and bog the engine due to the torque converter stall point and not enough torque was generated on reasonable traction to even spin a tire or get out of its own way up a steep grade and 4 low HAD to be used to get enough power to four tires to get them turning. These days traction control systems may hinder a vehicle in a situation like that although that means a tire or tires are spinning so in some ways the traction control can reduce wild spinning and anyone can correct me on that but I think some vehicles cut traction control off in low range ?.    By the sounds of it and you may have the proper equipment but if your responsible for helping vehicles out if they are not able to get out under their own power, I would say to be using a nylon tow rope or have one available so that one is able to give a bit of a run to help sling shot them some initial momentum as most tow straps are made out of polypropylene and impart way too much shock load if used to jerk a stuck vehicle into motion but are totally fine to use if going more from almost a dead pull with the tow vehicle and they are a lot less expensive to replace if damaged. That and some soft shackles to hook onto closed loop tow hooks on the truck your pulling as well as you having the proper shackle insert in your truck so there are no bad accidents with metal clevises joining things together or chain on the end of a tow rope or tow balls being hooked onto etc flying and causing damage or worse if it lets go. Its always a challenge pulling people because some are clueless and will over run the tow rope or strap and drive over it or that risk of ramming into the back of the tow vehicle so usually a few instructions are needed to clue in the driver of the stuck truck. Yeah ... have fun out there 😉
    • In their own words:    https://blog.amsoil.com/how-engine-sludge-forms-and-how-to-prevent-it-2/   [Quote] Synthetic Oil Helps Prevent Sludge Fortunately, sludge and varnish deposits are something that can be controlled. Using thermally stable synthetic base oils reduces the rate of degradation (oxidation).   Antioxidant additives further help reduce the rate of degradation. One of the most widely used is zinc dithiophosphate. Not only is it an excellent oxidation inhibitor, but it is also an outstanding anti-wear additive.   High-Quality Additives Fight Sludge Fortunately, it is possible to address many of the issues that occur after the initial oxidation stage. Additives, such as detergents and dispersants, help promote the suspension of contaminants within the oil and keep them from agglomerating.   Detergents, which are also alkaline in nature, assist in neutralizing acids generated in the sludge-building process. Antioxidant, dispersant and detergent additives are consumed during use.   To achieve maximum life expectancy, use a motor oil with high concentrations of antioxidant, dispersant and detergent additives.  [End Quote]   So quality base oil and then the last sentence above. TBN and ZDP levels matter. The one thing not covered was sufficient viscosity. Sad.     And yet we now have since API SN lower amount of them all with the only real change being a slight up tick in base oil selection. Along with lower concentrations of everything that makes oil work and lower and lower viscosity there is still an insistence on longer OCI's.    How low does the peanut butter and jelly level have to get before we say it's just white bread folded?    The new smoke and mirror treatment is the 'additives are INVISIBLE' to UOA testing with a health dose of TRUST ME.    I'm not picking on AMSOIL. This is coming from all of them. Every last one of them that abandon the low wear model in favor of the high mpg/EPA compliance model. 
    • First off use it in the way you’re more comfortable. In working in off road situations most of my life I used 4WD low range very little. In most cases when equipped I used auto 4WD. If I wanted maximum control going up and down very steep terrain  I used low range. Especially if I was driving a diesel. Same with very rutted terrain. In very muddy or snowy conditions I wanted momentum so high range worked well for that. With gravel ramps with limited traction I would try high range first. I would want smooth even increasing speed if I was fighting traction. Low range could give you too much to the wheels breaking traction trying to move. 
    • Having owned 4wd vehicle since the 1970s I find there are varying opinions on how to use 4wd, every owner is an expert in their minds.  IMO, 4LO is the appropriate gear and what I would use,  You have to feather the gas to avoid spinning tires and the lower the gear the better chance.  But like I said you will find those that think their method is best.  I live near a boat launch.  Yesterday there was a new Ford Maverick pulling out a pontoon boat almost 2x its size, they had no problems and they don't have a LO range.   True story. One winter day not long ago I was coming out of small town post office and there was a F150 4wd parked in front and was stuck foot deep snow ruts. I knew the lady so I asked her to put it in 4wd (wondering why in the middle of a 2-day snow storm she wasn't).  Her reply surprised me, "my husband" (the expert) told me not use that because it uses too much gas. She finally got unstuck spinning in 2wd which likely used more gas than not.  
    • Your tire pressure issue may just be batteries, you can reset them using tge Ing switch (I think) and the owner's  manual. ChatGTP will b e a faster, better help than Google.
  • GM-Trucks.com Clubs

  • Popular Contributors

×
×
  • Create New...