So, if I HAD to sell.....

[Nick The Great]

I generally use my truck for "car stuff" anyways. So I suppose if I had to sell and not get another truck, a sedan makes the most sense. But I like having the ability to 'haul' stuff. So I'd probably get into a 'Burb, which isn't really saving money . . .

 

My wife's Enclave is a really nice car, so just for commuting I'd probably look into that platform.

[sonerick]

 

+1 on the 4Runner. I traded in an '05 4Runner Sport with 240,000 miles for my Silverado (in the background above). I still wish I had kept it for a spare vehicle...

 

It had a 3" lift with 32" tires, far more ground clearance than the new Silverado. It was great off road, and with the back seats folded down it was great for hauling hiking or camping gear, mountain bikes, etc. On-road it left a little to be desired, since I had the V6 in it instead of Toyota's 4.7L V8. Newer generations don't offer the V6 though. I'm also pretty tall, and the 4Runner was a tight fit inside compared to the Silverado.

[crushNchowda]

If you mean what else can you get that can do all the stuff a typical well optioned 1/2 ton 4x4 truck can do while getting decent MPG & staying in the $35-$55k range?

 

There's nothing that'll match it exactly, only an HD diesel would exceed the capabilities, as for what would be close? Toyota 4Runner, Jeep wrangler, Jeep GC, Toyota FJ, Honda ridgeline/pilot, Acura MDX (I have a '15...so far I will say it is the most enjoyable/versatile/reliable/luxurious/durable/good performing all around vehicle I have ever owned for the $$$ if you're talking all things considered), Land Rover Discovery, Chevy Traverse, Dodge Durango, Ford Expedition, etc etc

 

Truth is...there are2 missing links between the 1/2 ton gasser - med/larg SUV - HD trucks tri-fecta, and you probably don't like 'em, but minvans come in AWD/4WD these days, can tow decent amount, have a ton of room, are comfy/luxurious, don't break the bank, & actually perform decent.....Alternatively what is arguably even MORE capable than a 1/2 ton 4x4 would be something like the MB Sprinter 4x4 diesel cargo van OR any of the big 3 + NIssan/Mitsu cargo vans (I don't think any of those brands still offer 4x4) - BUT you can send to Quigley for 4x4 conversion (common) & that is probably the holy grail of what you're asking.........

 

http://www.quigley4x4.com/

If you mean what else can you get that can do all the stuff a typical well optioned 1/2 ton 4x4 truck can do while getting decent MPG & staying in the $35-$55k range?

 

There's nothing that'll match it exactly, only an HD diesel would exceed the capabilities, as for what would be close? Toyota 4Runner, Jeep wrangler, Jeep GC, Toyota FJ, Honda ridgeline/pilot, Acura MDX (I have a '15...so far I will say it is the most enjoyable/versatile/reliable/luxurious/durable/good performing all around vehicle I have ever owned for the $$$ if you're talking all things considered), Land Rover Discovery, Chevy Traverse, Dodge Durango, Ford Expedition, etc etc

 

Truth is...there are2 missing links between the 1/2 ton gasser - med/larg SUV - HD trucks tri-fecta, and you probably don't like 'em, but minvans come in AWD/4WD these days, can tow decent amount, have a ton of room, are comfy/luxurious, don't break the bank, & actually perform decent.....Alternatively what is arguably even MORE capable than a 1/2 ton 4x4 would be something like the MB Sprinter 4x4 diesel cargo van OR any of the big 3 + NIssan/Mitsu cargo vans (I don't think any of those brands still offer 4x4) - BUT you can send to Quigley for 4x4 conversion (common) & that is probably the holy grail of what you're asking.........

 

http://www.quigley4x4.com/

[KARNUT]

What i've seen from the korean brands, their resale values are in the toilet. A coworker of mine just took it in the shorts trading in his 2015 Sante Fe on a new F-150, lost almost half its value.

Ive owned 4 Hyundais, a smart buyer recognizes that and buys CPOs with the discounts and still gets the warranty. Try trading in a Tahoe or Any GM SUV after two years. The only way to make out trading in every two years is to buy at the right time. I trade every two years I just traded in my 15 Santa Fe for a Camry. I was a little upside down but only paid 17K for a Camry LE. When I bought my Santa Fe for 27K it was discounted 10K.

 

 

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[phabejhmoob]

 

+1 on the 4Runner. I traded in an '05 4Runner Sport with 240,000 miles for my Silverado (in the background above). I still wish I had kept it for a spare vehicle...

 

It had a 3" lift with 32" tires, far more ground clearance than the new Silverado. It was great off road, and with the back seats folded down it was great for hauling hiking or camping gear, mountain bikes, etc. On-road it left a little to be desired, since I had the V6 in it instead of Toyota's 4.7L V8. Newer generations don't offer the V6 though. I'm also pretty tall, and the 4Runner was a tight fit inside compared to the Silverado.

 

That's a really nice looking silverado!

I have to admit, I am not loving the Toyota truck/suv designs of late. They are just plain ugly! I rode in my uncles 2016 Tacoma TRD, and the ride is not anywhere close to as comfortable as my Silverado. Don't get me wrong, I owned 2 toyota 4x4 trucks in the past but... they are just too ugly for me now.

[Knightfall]

This thread has become pretty awesome haha, love the discussion notwithstanding it's a topic that'd help me out! Appreciate all of the input. I don't think I could ever justify paying more than maybe $35K OTD for a vehicle, in 2017 dollars at least. My truck was just shy of $30k and I almost didn't pull the trigger on it then. So that essentially rules out the Tahoe ever unless things change alot. The 4runner is probably best for my needs, however if I take a purely economic move the Traverse/Acadia/Durango/Sorento, and surprisingly enough the Volkswagen Atlas would be my top choices, considering fuel economy, actual vehicle cost, insurance, etc, with reliability being equal which can be the wild card. The question then of course becomes if a unibody, front wheel drive vehicle can hold up to what I need a vehicle to hold up to. I need a large, durable vehicle, and as of now I would prefer an SUV-style covered cargo area.

 

Also, for the record, my Silverado is a V6 4x2 and I'm fine with that 98% of the time. Even in the Adirondacks in January my cheapskate self doesn't want 4x4 haha.

 

This whole thing will also become more "serious" next spring, when my lease is up on the Silverado. I intend on buying out the lease, and seeing how the first few payments vs. how much I still like the truck/how much other vehicles I'm looking at are going for/works out.

[Silverado Steve]

Yeah i dont know if a strong case can be made that its financially beneficial to trade in a car every 2 years; however i do know this much in regards to my previous post, my friend got his Sante Fe for $34K he says MSRP was over $40K. He bought a new F-150 Lariat SCREW FX4 for $45K which stickered for $56K. Dealer gave him $17.5K for the Sante Fe...Carmax offered him $18K. Sante Fe was Limited trim or whatever the top trim is in excellent condition with 12K on the odometer...regardless of warranty or rebate/discount, that is crap resale. Dealer told him hyundai's mad rental fleet sales and excessive leasing has killed resale. What is nott debatable is if you are someone like yourself who trades in every 2 years you are miles ahead to buy somethin which holds its vakue like a Tacoma or 4Runner which are 1st and 3rd respectively in retaining their values in every major automotive publication. I'm also betting someone who gets rid of their vehicle every 2 years can care less about length of warranty so long as its good for 2 years. A hyundai only makes sense if you plan on driving it until the wheels fall off...anything else you are throwing money away, even by your own admission.

 

Ive owned 4 Hyundais, a smart buyer recognizes that and buys CPOs with the discounts and still gets the warranty. Try trading in a Tahoe or Any GM SUV after two years. The only way to make out trading in every two years is to buy at the right time. I trade every two years I just traded in my 15 Santa Fe for a Camry. I was a little upside down but only paid 17K for a Camry LE. When I bought my Santa Fe for 27K it was discounted 10K.

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[KARNUT]

Yeah i dont know if a strong case can be made that its financially beneficial to trade in a car every 2 years; however i do know this much in regards to my previous post, my friend got his Sante Fe for $34K he says MSRP was over $40K. He bought a new F-150 Lariat SCREW FX4 for $45K which stickered for $56K. Dealer gave him $17.5K for the Sante Fe...Carmax offered him $18K. Sante Fe was Limited trim or whatever the top trim is in excellent condition with 12K on the odometer...regardless of warranty or rebate/discount, that is crap resale. Dealer told him hyundai's mad rental fleet sales and excessive leasing has killed resale. What is nott debatable is if you are someone like yourself who trades in every 2 years you are miles ahead to buy somethin which holds its vakue like a Tacoma or 4Runner which are 1st and 3rd respectively in retaining their values in every major automotive publication. I'm also betting so eone who gets rid of their vehicle every 2 years can care less about length of warranty.

 

 

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Im definitely not saying it would be a good idea to buy a Hyundai every two years or anything else unless you're open to going to different brands and getting killer deals on vehicles that different dealers have to unload. I've been able to do ever two-three years. The Hyundais my wife has owned 05 Elantra and 11 Genesis have been great cars and she still has both. The 10 Genesis coup and the 15 Santa Fe I had were fine too. My hobbies have been cars and trucks for 40 years and have owned many of all kinds. You have to get good at it or go broke, broke I'm not.

 

 

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[Silverado Steve]

Interesting insight on your behalf. If you are of the cost saving mindset and being that you are particular on your vehicle needs, i can say, you are costing yourself more money buying your truck at the end of lease term. Also, if your needs are that you need a vehicle subject to some unusual abuses, you might want to strongly reconsider leasing in the future, or you will be handcuffed into buying at the expiration of your lease to which you lose all power as a consumer.

 

This thread has become pretty awesome haha, love the discussion notwithstanding it's a topic that'd help me out! Appreciate all of the input. I don't think I could ever justify paying more than maybe $35K OTD for a vehicle, in 2017 dollars at least. My truck was just shy of $30k and I almost didn't pull the trigger on it then. So that essentially rules out the Tahoe ever unless things change alot. The 4runner is probably best for my needs, however if I take a purely economic move the Traverse/Acadia/Durango/Sorento, and surprisingly enough the Volkswagen Atlas would be my top choices, considering fuel economy, actual vehicle cost, insurance, etc, with reliability being equal which can be the wild card. The question then of course becomes if a unibody, front wheel drive vehicle can hold up to what I need a vehicle to hold up to. I need a large, durable vehicle, and as of now I would prefer an SUV-style covered cargo area.

 

Also, for the record, my Silverado is a V6 4x2 and I'm fine with that 98% of the time. Even in the Adirondacks in January my cheapskate self doesn't want 4x4 haha.

 

This whole thing will also become more "serious" next spring, when my lease is up on the Silverado. I intend on buying out the lease, and seeing how the first few payments vs. how much I still like the truck/how much other vehicles I'm looking at are going for/works out.

[Silverado Steve]

Yeah, im not debating Hyundai and Kia can build a serviceable car; however in the overall conversation, the OP is talking about switching out of a 3 year vehicle....with that pattern, neither Korean brand car would be a cost effective purchase if he should switch out at the same rate. Also, if the OP needs something rugged and subject to rough driving, as another poster mentioned, Hyundai is a stickler for their warranty as is Kia, if there is any evidence of neglect or abuse, such as heavy off roading, kiss the warranty goodbye. A former boss of mine had his warranty denied by Hyundai because he didnt get his routine maintenance done at the dealership. A warranty is only as good as the paper its written on and of course YMMV.

 

Im definitely not saying it would be a good idea to buy a Hyundai every two years or anything else unless you're open to going to different brands and getting killer deals on vehicles that different dealers have to unload. I've been able to do ever two-three years. The Hyundais my wife has owned 05 Elantra and 11 Genesis have been great cars and she still has both. The 10 Genesis coup and the 15 Santa Fe I had were fine too. My hobbies have been cars and trucks for 40 years and have owned many of all kinds. You have to get good at it or go broke, broke I'm not.

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[KARNUT]

Yeah, im not debating Hyundai and Kia can build a serviceable car; however in the overall conversation, the OP is talking about switching out of a 3 year vehicle....with that pattern, neither Korean brand car would be a cost effective purchase if he should switch out at the same rate. Also, if the OP needs something rugged and subject to rough driving, as another poster mentioned, Hyundai is a stickler for their warranty as is Kia, if there is any evidence of neglect or abuse, such as heavy off roading, kiss the warranty goodbye. A former boss of mine had his warranty denied by Hyundai because he didnt get his routine maintenance done at the dealership. A warranty is only as good as the paper its written on and of course YMMV.

 

 

I doubt there's anything as tough as Honda, Toyota, Subaru or their satellite brands such as Acura. If I was going to finally grow up keep one that's what I buy. I did just buy a Camry will see. I actually thought I was there with my 14 GMC love that truck. The whole V4 thing after much research learning what was involved in making all that work, cause me to trade it for the Santa Fe just prior to end of the warranty. Of course all that is open to debate.

 

 

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[Silverado Steve]

I mentioned this earlier that i have been eyeing a new subaru crosstrek, mainly because im doing mostly longer around town commutes and the gain in mpgs would be beneficial and with my truck having close to 60K in 3.5 years, i have a feeling of trepidation as the miles pile on toward 100K. When i run the numbers of money lost in resale and buying a bew car, i refrain from pulling the trigger. I know this, nothing beat my Tacoma in regard to resale and ruggedness of being able to just last. I bought that truck for 28,200 in December 2006 and sold it December 2013 for $21K without effort (sold it on CL in 1 day) to buy my current Silverado. While resale might not be a factor to some, it is to me, because i may keep my car 10 years as planned, or i may move on in 5 years because of life changes. I think the OP is in the same boat and is looking for bang for the buck...hard to argue against Toyota's resale, so while their reliability may be taking a hit lately, it doesn't cost you as much to make that bet.

 

I doubt there's anything as tough as Honda, Toyota, Subaru or their satellite brands such as Acura. If I was going to finally grow up keep one that's what I buy. I did just buy a Camry will see. I actually thought I was there with my 14 GMC love that truck. The whole V4 thing after much research learning what was involved in making all that work, cause me to trade it for the Santa Fe just prior to end of the warranty. Of course all that is open to debate.

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[Donstar]

 

This whole thing will also become more "serious" next spring, when my lease is up on the Silverado. I intend on buying out the lease, and seeing how the first few payments vs. how much I still like the truck/how much other vehicles I'm looking at are going for/works out.

I imagine you had a 2 yr lease so your buyout must be pretty substantial. You have no equity in your current vehicle and have a clean slate If you're fine with the 4.3 2wd or 4wd you could probably find and finance a leftover previous years' vehicle. I wanted a V6 and waited until the current year's trucks started to appear. I had my choice of trucks at highly discounted prices. I recommend that you start talking to your dealership this fall. You might find a deal on a '17 and some interest in working out a deal. You may simply want a change and go to a Subaru, Santa Fe, Atlas or other car . I have explored similar options over the years and keep coming back to the 1/2 ton pickup. The 1/2 ton gm is the best vehicle of all, imo, You are looking for a vehicle that will be as tough and versatile as your Silverado. The obvious choice is another Silverado or Sierra!

[Spurnedsnot]

I mentioned this earlier that i have been eyeing a new subaru crosstrek, mainly because im doing mostly longer around town commutes and the gain in mpgs would be beneficial and with my truck having close to 60K in 3.5 years, i have a feeling of trepidation as the miles pile on toward 100K. When i run the numbers of money lost in resale and buying a bew car, i refrain from pulling the trigger. I know this, nothing beat my Tacoma in regard to resale and ruggedness of being able to just last. I bought that truck for 28,200 in December 2006 and sold it December 2013 for $21K without effort (sold it on CL in 1 day) to buy my current Silverado. While resale might not be a factor to some, it is to me, because i may keep my car 10 years as planned, or i may move on in 5 years because of life changes. I think the OP is in the same boat and is looking for bang for the buck...hard to argue against Toyota's resale, so while their reliability may be taking a hit lately, it doesn't cost you as much to make that bet.

I have a 17 Subaru Crosstrex and Outback. Similar except the wheelbase. Also have a VW Jetta. Subaru far and exceeds my expectations albeit I have had a few before. The AWD is excellent and the shiftless trans won't spill your latte. Paddle shift if you like and plenty of power with the 4cyl. If they made a truck I would buy it. My kid has a 17 4 Runner. Loves it. It's a big SUV. Don't know why people say it's outdated. More like spartan luxury if you ask me. Other kid bought a 17 Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT. Waste of money if you ask me. Yea it's got it all but at a huge price(85k). Quality issues already. Still trying to iron those out.

[vinemann12]

So,, If I Had To Sell ??

Not sure what finance related issue or garage space requirement would provide incentive to sell...

 

I had my Toy4Runner / Baha Runner, and loved it years ago when space was not requirement. It did suck gas for V6, but it was fun with enclosed back for hauling small stuff, camping gear, etc...

 

Later, loved my new 96 Tahoe when they were inexpensive with great room in back when seat was folded down.Sold it to buddy @ 248K on odometer and still was strong engine and tranny..

Of course,,not able to afford the $70K + now, but new Tahoes are Good-Lookin...

 

Found my perfect RCSB truck in January and purchased (Topper)since kids are gone, its just me and GF.

Easy for parking, basic camping and hauling all kinds of stuff..

 

I guse I'm Good To Go for awhile..

 

Cheers---K