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Paintor

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2019 model year GM trucks will lose their last human control on the vehicle....now going to be electric parking brake.

 

Throttle- Been drive by wire for decades

Steering- Went electric a few years ago

Brakes- Computer controlled ABS been out for decades

 

Last thing in a vehicle that can still be operated by a human on a vehicle....parking brake....

 

Now we will be just like Airline pilots....merely placing a vote on what we want the vehicle to do....a computer decides for us...

 

Discussion on WHY eliminating the last human control in a motor vehicle please....

 

http://www.autonews.com/article/20171223/OEM03/171229938/gm-next-century-truck

 

 

truckofwinandawesome Senior Enthusiast

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2 hours ago, Paintor said:

2019 model year GM trucks will lose their last human control on the vehicle....now going to be electric parking brake.

 

Throttle- Been drive by wire for decades

Steering- Went electric a few years ago

Brakes- Computer controlled ABS been out for decades

 

Last thing in a vehicle that can still be operated by a human on a vehicle....parking brake....

 

Now we will be just like Airline pilots....merely placing a vote on what we want the vehicle to do....a computer decides for us...

 

Discussion on WHY eliminating the last human control in a motor vehicle please....

 

http://www.autonews.com/article/20171223/OEM03/171229938/gm-next-century-truck

 

 

do a little more fact checking next time, electric parking brakes have been around FOR YEARS. and on your 'Electric' steering, that is the power assist going electric; there is still a mechanical link between the steering wheel and the front wheels. (although Infiniti has been dabbling with something called Direct Adaptive Steering, which is that 'Steer by Wire' you fear so much) and as for the service brakes, there hasn't been a direct mechanical link for almost a century thanks to Fred Dusenberg and the advent of Hydraulic brakes.

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XSKIER

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Both of my trucks have mechanical parking brakes, and both of my cars have electric parking brakes. I'll take the electric please.

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newdude Senior Enthusiast

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20 hours ago, Paintor said:

2019 model year GM trucks will lose their last human control on the vehicle....now going to be electric parking brake.

 

Throttle- Been drive by wire for decades

Steering- Went electric a few years ago

Brakes- Computer controlled ABS been out for decades

 

Last thing in a vehicle that can still be operated by a human on a vehicle....parking brake....

 

Now we will be just like Airline pilots....merely placing a vote on what we want the vehicle to do....a computer decides for us...

 

Discussion on WHY eliminating the last human control in a motor vehicle please....

 

http://www.autonews.com/article/20171223/OEM03/171229938/gm-next-century-truck

 

 

 

So...it appears there is some confusion here interpreting the article.  It does not mention an electronic parking brake (which the new trucks will have). 

 

The article mentions the possibility of "brake by wire" which means your brake pedal potentially has no connection to the main braking system. 

 

To quote the article:

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The next-generation pickups are expected to use braking-by-wire to reduce mechanical parts and have a new 10-speed automatic transmission that GM co-developed with Ford, which already is using the technology on the F-150.

 

Grumpy Bear Senior Enthusiast

Grumpy Bear

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BBW has to be the most idiot thing I've ever heard of. Well, about even with steer by wire. Bout time to buy that horse. 

Silverado4x4 Senior Enthusiast

Silverado4x4

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Well my neighbors 2016 Cadillac XT5 has a electric parking brake, I just drove it to the store yesterday with him in it and I was looking for the parking brake release and found it was electric. I think the poster is way behind as this is already in some vehicles.

newdude Senior Enthusiast

newdude

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Good enough for by far some of the fastest race cars in existence:  http://www.racecar-engineering.com/articles/2014-f1-explained-what-is-brake-by-wire/

 

Brembo says its on its way:  http://articles.sae.org/14570/

 

Heck, Toyota Prius and Rav-4 Hybrid have it, some high end German cars (I think Mercedes has a car with Steer-by-Wire even now).  GM, Honda, Ford hybrids have it.  Some big trucks (18 wheelers) do as well. 

 

No vacuum needed at all. 

diyer2 Senior Enthusiast

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If they put it on the vehicle you're interested in would you pass on the vehicle because of it.

I think not.

:happysad:

Boardmember Senior Enthusiast

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Hey Paintor (OP) -   Success!  You sparked a conversation (pardon the pun) and caused us to reflect on technology!

 

Before we know it, they will be able to use those light emitting diode thingies in the vanity mirrors!

ickyoldman Enthusiast

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Well as an airline pilot I can say that we have TONS of responsibility that requires thought and intervention.  The automation is absolutely necessary so that we can focus on whatever is the task at hand.  We COULD NOT do our job without automation because the workload would be too high.  In the old days there were three pilots......now the are two and we are assholes and elbows........

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The reason for electric assist on power steering is to increase efficiency. The less the motor has to do the less fuel it will consume. Replacing humans is just a byproduct. A tasty byproduct. Soylent Green is people

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