Horsepower arguments

[DONWT15]

5 hours ago, Rob Okray said:

Unless you were driving 426 Hemi. 

True, but there weren't many of those running around and very hard to find.

[DONWT15]

5 hours ago, Donstar said:

The '67 Ford line-up of cars was pretty impressive and perhaps my all-time favorite.  The Falcon, Fairlane, Mustang and Galaxie could be found at the grocery store or race track. The pick-ups and vans of this year were also fun to drive!

They were good looking cars.

[HawkeyeSierra]

Have you ever thought that for us old guys,  part of the allure of driving trucks now comes from our experience with cars in the 60's/70's? Those vehicles had power, for those days, but they also had unique styling. 

 

The cars of today have decent power, but the styling is so bland and monotonous that it's often hard to tell the difference between them.  Trucks on the other hand, have that unique styling that we're used to. You can't mistake a GM truck for a Ford or Ram.

 

 

[DONWT15]

6 minutes ago, HawkeyeSierra said:

Have you ever thought that for us old guys,  part of the allure of driving trucks now comes from our experience with cars in the 60's/70's? Those vehicles had power, for those days, but they also had unique styling. 

 

The cars of today have decent power, but the styling is so bland and monotonous that it's often hard to tell the difference between them.  Trucks on the other hand, have that unique styling that we're used to. You can't mistake a GM truck for a Ford or Ram.

 

 

 

Very good point.  Everything is a rolling gum drop these days.

[BlkSS]

Speed and power are something that you get immune or accustomed to, in my opinion.  For me, it's been something that I could never get enough of anyways.  My first real "fast" car was my 1998 Camaro SS that I bought when I was in high school.  It was a blast to drive and was one of the faster cars available then without dropping outrageous money.  I still have my 2002 Camaro SS that honestly doesn't get driven much because it no longer feels fast though can still be fun.  Working in the automotive industry and driving some of the vehicles I've been able to has made me develop the "immunity".  My previous pickup, a 2010 Silverado with the NHT package (6.2 Max Trailering) was great at first.  Due to the immunity factory, shortly afterwards, I "needed" an intake, full exhaust and tune.  Then I "needed" a blower and then a cam and smaller pulley.  I stopped modifying it as it was my daily driver when it had 499hp 556lbft to the ground and knew I'd need to build the tranny eventually.  For a 1/2 ton pickup it was really quick and would surprise you but once again having the opportunity to drive what I have, boosted V8s, V10s, V12s, and high horse powered NA engines, it's desensitized me.  With todays engineering, both on the engines and the suspension systems, fast vehicles don't even seem fast at times because they ride so well and you feel so much more in control of the vehicles.  My concern now is vehicles are getting so powerful that they can easily get away from you if you're not careful because of the handling characteristics can give you that false sense of security.

[KARNUT]

Hummm, I’ve been driving over 40 years I’ll never get desensitized. I don’t require 500 plus horsepower out of my DD cruiser. The couple times a week I drive my old modified truck or my wife’s sports car never gets old.


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[j-ten-ner]

1 hour ago, BlkSS said:

Speed and power are something that you get immune or accustomed to, in my opinion.  For me, it's been something that I could never get enough of anyways.  My first real "fast" car was my 1998 Camaro SS that I bought when I was in high school.  It was a blast to drive and was one of the faster cars available then without dropping outrageous money.  I still have my 2002 Camaro SS that honestly doesn't get driven much because it no longer feels fast though can still be fun.  Working in the automotive industry and driving some of the vehicles I've been able to has made me develop the "immunity".  My previous pickup, a 2010 Silverado with the NHT package (6.2 Max Trailering) was great at first.  Due to the immunity factory, shortly afterwards, I "needed" an intake, full exhaust and tune.  Then I "needed" a blower and then a cam and smaller pulley.  I stopped modifying it as it was my daily driver when it had 499hp 556lbft to the ground and knew I'd need to build the tranny eventually.  For a 1/2 ton pickup it was really quick and would surprise you but once again having the opportunity to drive what I have, boosted V8s, V10s, V12s, and high horse powered NA engines, it's desensitized me.  With todays engineering, both on the engines and the suspension systems, fast vehicles don't even seem fast at times because they ride so well and you feel so much more in control of the vehicles.  My concern now is vehicles are getting so powerful that they can easily get away from you if you're not careful because of the handling characteristics can give you that false sense of security.

There is a difference in wanting more power and needing more power.

 

so long

j-ten-ner

[BlkSS]

3 minutes ago, j-ten-ner said:

There is a difference in wanting more power and needing more power.

 

so long

j-ten-ner

First World Problems...

[Donstar]

34 minutes ago, KARNUT said:

Hummm, I’ve been driving over 40 years I’ll never get desensitized. I don’t require 500 plus horsepower out of my DD cruiser. The couple times a week I drive my old modified truck or my wife’s sports car never gets old.


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I  get excited about driving a new or different truck but to me the horsepower number means little.  My 60+ hp Harley will give me all the power thrill I want or need!

[KARNUT]

I  get excited about driving a new or different truck but to me the horsepower number means little.  My 60+ hp Harley will give me all the power thrill I want or need!

I guess so, power to weight more than enough.


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[Daly]

21 minutes ago, Donstar said:

I  get excited about driving a new or different truck but to me the horsepower number means little.  My 60+ hp Harley will give me all the power thrill I want or need!

I'm the same way when getting into a new truck. Only it's my toy, a Plymouth Duster right now, that gives me the thrills. Besides, I don't want my Daily Driver to be the one that get's me into trouble. I just want it to get me from point A to B, while towing the trouble... My 5.3/8sp High Country does that perfectly fine, and in comfort...

[Grumpy Bear]

9 hours ago, Rob Okray said:

Unless you were driving 426 Hemi. 

There were a handful in our area. Some odd balls too. An  OD Green Hemi Coronet 4 dr 4 speed with a bench seat is one I remember well. Owned and street raced often by a local wrench at a Phillips 66 full service on Friday nights. Didn't loose often but one of the ones he did loose was to my Uncle's stock 67 Fairlane GT Convertible. It wasn't pretty. Keith didn't come out of hiding for a month and when he did it was laddered and sporting tubs and 10" slicks.  It was always their problem. Grip in street trim. A lesson that wasn't lost on me. 

 

 

[DONWT15]

22 minutes ago, Grumpy Bear said:

It was always their problem. Grip in street trim

Smoking tires and loud exhaust does not equal speed. Can be a fun show, but wasted energy.

[DONWT15]

Loving the trip down memory lane by everyone.

 

Still kind of waiting for someone to complain about their "POS" GM engine.

With all the posts on these forums by unhappy owners, expected to get beat up.

[Eddie 70]

 

My old muscle. Has an 02 LS6, cammed, 5 speed.