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On 9/7/2018 at 7:07 PM, GMC-AT said:

I agree.  I think the reason they don't offer tank size options has to be production cost stay lower. They pinch every nickle. 

Somebody needs to tell the damn bean counters at GM it's not the Great Depression. They do really stupid stuff in the name of saving a few bucks, and it comes back to bite them in the ass years later (i.e. cylinder head studs on the Northstar). 

 

:rant:

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I’ve been buy trucks since the 70s usually what ever is cheaper at the time. It just happens it’s mostly GM. In saying that have seen the improvements across the board. That includes Dodge- Ram. I know of 8 owners of Rams some repeat buyers. I personally owed 91 3/4 diesel that ended up after 100K miles being a pulling truck go for 15 years and at least 300K miles as a parts runner back up field truck. It had one repaint along the way. My father drives a 98 diesel ram, my mother daily drives a 2000 Ford diesel. I drive about 3 times a week a 92 Chevy. All could pass as newer rather than old beat up vehicles. I don’t believe one brand could pass as far superior to the other. If I was shopping for a truck tomorrow I would buy based on price.


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I bought the diesel 2500HD in 2011 to get the greater range with its 36 gallon fuel tank and 25% greater MPG with the diesel engine for a range per tankful of fuel of over 550 miles. Now I am looking for a gas powered half-ton and only the Ram and Ford trucks have a large fuel tank so my next truck is not going to be a Chevy (or a Toyota with the Tundra's 14 MPG average).

 

A 26 gallon fuel tank gives me a real world range of 300 miles where I travel. Once you get west of the Rockies one finds fewer gas stations and many towns that don't even have a single gas station. Last thing I want to do is run out of gas on some back road and have to leave the truck and its contents and walk 30 miles to a major highway and then find a gas station that is open and will sell me a gas can. 

 

GM has a lot of faith in the blind loyalty of its truck owners to provide a 1/2 ton with only one engine, the 6-speed transmission, and a small fuel tank. Well they lost me completely as a truck customer.

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16 minutes ago, Wintersun said:

I bought the diesel 2500HD in 2011 to get the greater range with its 36 gallon fuel tank and 25% greater MPG with the diesel engine for a range per tankful of fuel of over 550 miles. Now I am looking for a gas powered half-ton and only the Ram and Ford trucks have a large fuel tank so my next truck is not going to be a Chevy (or a Toyota with the Tundra's 14 MPG average).

 

A 26 gallon fuel tank gives me a real world range of 300 miles where I travel. Once you get west of the Rockies one finds fewer gas stations and many towns that don't even have a single gas station. Last thing I want to do is run out of gas on some back road and have to leave the truck and its contents and walk 30 miles to a major highway and then find a gas station that is open and will sell me a gas can. 

 

GM has a lot of faith in the blind loyalty of its truck owners to provide a 1/2 ton with only one engine, the 6-speed transmission, and a small fuel tank. Well they lost me completely as a truck customer.

The 2019,  2500HD still has the 36 gallon tank and the 1500 Long Bed has a 28 gallon tank.  Only the 1500 short bed has the 24 gallon tank.

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It has been about a month since I posted in this thread, inquiring about the fuel tank size. In that span I've test driven four 4x4 trucks: '18 Tundra CC short bed 5.7 Platinum, '18 Ford F150 CC short bed 3.5 Lariat, '19 Ram 1500 CC short bed 5.7 Limited, and '19 Chevrolet 1500 CC short bed 6.2 LTZ. Fuel tank sizes were 38, 36, 33 and 24, respectively.

 

Toyota was least quick, not particularly fun to drive, and cheesy inside. Ford was very fast, best visibility, harsh ride, noisy and dull interior. Ram was responsive, nimble on-road, plush ride, quiet inside and well appointed. Chevy was rocket strong, comfortable, easy to drive, second best ride, and surprisingly nice inside.

 

To GM: you lost this sale due to having the smallest fuel tank. I've been planning to place an order on Monday, 10/15/18 for some time... and tomorrow Ram gets that order. With that written, I will say I like the new Chevy truck a lot. I've owned Dodge Ramcharger, Ford F350, and Nissan Titan in the past. So I have some clear ideas about what is important to me. Going in, I had Tundra, F150, Silverado then Ram in order as my favorites. Going out, its Silverado and Ram, tied for best, with Ford distant third, and Toyota last. As GM provides no on-line configuration tool for their product, and is otherwise silent on whether the there will be an increased tank size option, they made the decision pretty easy for me.

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It's really a head scratcher - the 24 gallon tank with no option of larger.  I'd think they would make a optional larger tank but we haven't heard a peep about it being late availability.  

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This really is a serious issue for anyone who tows. Making the tank size smaller than the previous generation, without a substantial improvement in fuel economy is a bad move.

 

I used to tow a small trailer with lifted Canyon. Its 20 gallon tank gave me about 220 mile range. I had to make a lot of fuel stops. I started carrying a 7 gallon jerry can most of the time, since I often travelled late at night, to areas where gas stations were spread apart, and closed early. It was pretty annoying.

 

Honestly, fuel range was one of the improvements I appreciated most when going to my stock 2018 Sierra. I am now pretty happy with my range, but as I mentioned, my trailer is not that big, and about 2,000 lb. I can go about 340 miles, if I fill up with about 2.6 gallons left in the tank. If I was towing anywhere near the Sierra’s towing limit, I’d probably be longing for the 30+ gallon tanks the competition offers.

 

 

 

 

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Why not give us the damn option. That’s the thing with ford. They don’t stop offering every little option possible even if they don’t really need it.  . I’m also now considering a 157 f150 crew cab that has the 36 gal tank. 

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Twice now I very considered Ford then I go look at them up close and I just can't do that to myself.  They're so cheap abd poorly assembled.   I do like the way Ford setup the options and packages though.  

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I am no ford guy but my 16 escape awd 2.0 turbo is the best vehicle i have owned. Great power and handling  and a nice ride. I did lease a 2018 gmc sierra double cab all terrain 6.2 and i like it so far but not more than my escape. I do wish i had the bigger gas tank just for longer times between fill ups. I also had a 2017 ford navigator 3.5 for a rental and it drove nice and had decent power but the dash was horrible and cheap. I would say my GMC rides nicer than the Navigator.

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Long bed with the large fuel tank is available only with the regular cab and hardly an option. With a double cab or crew cab the only beds are standard or short bed and all come with the 26 gallon fuel tank that provides usable 24 gallons or about 380 miles of range. 

 

In the back country I make it a practice of using a third of my fuel going in and having a third to come back and another third as my safety reserve. With the Silverado or Sierra 1500 trucks that means 250 miles of safe range unless I carry jerry cans (been there done that and not about to do again).

 

I can get a large fuel tank with a truck from Toyota, Ram, or Ford. So is GM right and are all these other truck manufacturers clueless?

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Wow...I'm encourage that anyone can still drive 250 miles in this country without encountering a gas station...    I thought with all the damn people in the world now that was impossible.. 

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Just because you can stop doesn't mean you want to hit every single gas station on a road trip.  I know Father GM knows best and says you should get out and rest though. 

 

If the 2019s have a 24 gallon tank, that means you have to fill up after you use around 20 gallons.  Short range with a trailer. 

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