Jump to content

Overloaded

Lou Summerall

By Lou Summerall
in Engines & Drivetrain

Recommended Posts

Lou Summerall Enthusiast

Lou Summerall

Posted
Posted

I have a 2014 Silverado 1500 5.3L 3.42 rear and towing a 8600#travel trailer. After hitting the scales yesterday I found out I am way over weight. I know I should have bought a 2500 but it is to late for that. I was wondering if anyone had had there truck upgraded max tow package and how much. Can't afford a new truck plus wife loves this one. Any help would be greatly appreciated. My current towing capacity is 9600#. I am 1000# over on GCVW.

truckguy82 Senior Enthusiast

truckguy82

Posted
Posted
1 minute ago, Lou Summerall said:

I have a 2014 Silverado 1500 5.3L 3.42 rear and towing a 8600#travel trailer. After hitting the scales yesterday I found out I am way over weight. I know I should have bought a 2500 but it is to late for that. I was wondering if anyone had had there truck upgraded max tow package and how much. Can't afford a new truck plus wife loves this one. Any help would be greatly appreciated. My current towing capacity is 9600#. I am 1000# over on GCVW.

My friend tows a lot of weight with a 2011 1500 avalanche. He had to upgrade the trans cooler but you likely don’t need to do that unless your trans temps are hitting like 220 plus.

 

He did trans cooler, airbags, and a nice brake controller. He tows up to 15k lbs short distances and says it handles the weight fine.

 

airbags > whatever suspension the max tow has

rkj__ Enthusiast

rkj__

Posted
Posted

1,000 lb over?  Is the 8,600 lb weight figure for the trailer loaded, or unloaded?  How many people in the vehicle?

 

I'm just curious where all the weight is coming from.

aseibel Senior Enthusiast

aseibel

Posted
Posted

You already have a decent gear ratio, so that's not really a problem.

 

You can upgrade suspension & add air bags to make it feel more stable.

You can put on tires with a higher load rating.

 

The biggest thing that is limiting your ability to control a heavy load is the brakes, definitely make sure the trailer brakes and controller are set-up and working properly. But you could try to upgrade the truck's brakes as well.

 

But, jeeze, please be careful pulling that heavy thing around. I hope I don't encounter you on the road.

Lou Summerall Enthusiast

Lou Summerall

Posted
  • Author
Posted
45 minutes ago, rkj__ said:

1,000 lb over?  Is the 8,600 lb weight figure for the trailer loaded, or unloaded?  How many people in the vehicle?

 

I'm just curious where all the weight is coming from.

Trailer loaded weight. We were not able to weigh prior to leaving.

wforrest08 Senior Enthusiast

wforrest08

Posted
Posted

The problem is no matter what you do to “beef up” the truck to handle the weight you can’t change the factory tow rating numbers. Even if the dealer was to install all the “max tow” equipment they can’t change the sticker in the door. Can the truck be made to handle more weight of course but it won’t change the fact that your illegally exceeding the limitations of the truck and if heaven forbid your in any kind accident whether it’s your fault or not or if you get pulled over and weighted by a DOT officer. IMO the problem isn’t the weight it’s the liability risk your placing on yourself and your family you have to consider. It would be quite the burden to have a insurance claim totally denied or be told to leave your trailer on the side of the road a 1000 miles from home if you want to continue on your trip...

swathdiver Senior Enthusiast

swathdiver

Posted
Posted

Truck ain't lawful to tow that much no matter what you do.  Can you beef up the truck to handle it?  Easily.  Can it be re-certified for the additional capacity the mods add?  IDK!

 

Happy Thanksgiving!

rkj__ Enthusiast

rkj__

Posted
Posted
4 hours ago, wforrest08 said:

The problem is no matter what you do to “beef up” the truck to handle the weight you can’t change the factory tow rating numbers. Even if the dealer was to install all the “max tow” equipment they can’t change the sticker in the door. Can the truck be made to handle more weight of course but it won’t change the fact that your illegally exceeding the limitations of the truck and if heaven forbid your in any kind accident whether it’s your fault or not or if you get pulled over and weighted by a DOT officer. IMO the problem isn’t the weight it’s the liability risk your placing on yourself and your family you have to consider. It would be quite the burden to have a insurance claim totally denied or be told to leave your trailer on the side of the road a 1000 miles from home if you want to continue on your trip...

 

At what point after this accident do they determine if you were, or where not over your weight ratings?

 

00003561106967.jpg

xax Enthusiast

xax

Posted
Posted
16 minutes ago, rkj__ said:

 

At what point after this accident do they determine if you were, or where not over your weight ratings?

They'd figure it out during the cops accident report lol

rkj__ Enthusiast

rkj__

Posted
Posted
Just now, xax said:

They'd figure it out during the cops accident report lol

How?  It's easy to check the stickers on the trailer and tow vehicle, but short of putting everything (and everybody) on a scale, there's no way to know the weight of the contents.

Lou Summerall Enthusiast

Lou Summerall

Posted
  • Author
Posted
23 hours ago, aseibel said:

You already have a decent gear ratio, so that's not really a problem.

 

You can upgrade suspension & add air bags to make it feel more stable.

You can put on tires with a higher load rating.

 

The biggest thing that is limiting your ability to control a heavy load is the brakes, definitely make sure the trailer brakes and controller are set-up and working properly. But you could try to upgrade the truck's brakes as well.

 

But, jeeze, please be careful pulling that heavy thing around. I hope I don't encounter you on the road.

According to the ownser manual if I swap the rear gear to 373 I would be 1000 # under.

Lou Summerall Enthusiast

Lou Summerall

Posted
  • Author
Posted
  23 hours ago, aseibel said:

You already have a decent gear ratio, so that's not really a problem.

 

You can upgrade suspension & add air bags to make it feel more stable.

You can put on tires with a higher load rating.

 

The biggest thing that is limiting your ability to control a heavy load is the brakes, definitely make sure the trailer brakes and controller are set-up and working properly. But you could try to upgrade the truck's brakes as well.

 

But, jeeze, please be careful pulling that heavy thing around. I hope I don't encounter you on the road.

According to the ownser manual if I swap the rear gear to 373 I would be 1000 # under.

DONWT15 Enthusiast

DONWT15

Posted
Posted

A mess like that is loaded in a truck for disposal. The truck is weighed so they know how much to charge to dispose of it.

Really quite easy.

DONWT15 Enthusiast

DONWT15

Posted
Posted
13 minutes ago, Lou Summerall said:

According to the ownser manual if I swap the rear gear to 373 I would be 1000 # under.

Yes, but that doesn't change the certified limits of the truck. If you look up your vin # you can find the info from the build that GM used to certify the vehicle.

You need to find where the extra weight is, the trailer or the truck. Are you running with full water tanks or things like that?

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Go to topic listing

  • Latest Articles

  • Posts

    • Atlas
      OCI, not when but why?

      By Atlas · Posted

      On the subject of OLM, Gm's OLM tool may be more "informed" than others brands. I recall OLM's in mid-2000's Chrysler products literally counting down a set number of miles. That's all the OLM appeared to be.    I would actually expect GM to be able to explain the parameters that their OLM takes into account from a high level. No, I would not expect them to disclose their software coding or data analysis around their parameters.   So we're talking about two different topics, so to continue the subject on the other one, I'd be curious to know how much "standard particulate matter" in fresh oil is able to be filtered at first start by a fresh oil filter. How much particulate matter is enough to "matter"?   I.e. how much of a "lever" do we think this equates to (variability in particulate content, in fresh oils, between different makes/brands, some which filter less, and some that filter more).   We can say that more particles = more wear = shorter engine life as a logical statement and use that data with a little marketing to scare people into selecting a more refined/filtered oil. Using a similie, is this like deciding to forego two alcoholic drinks in a lifetime because we're worried about the potential impact on lifespan? Are there numbers which translate the ISO test results into a quantifiable increase in wear for a given engine/use case?
    • chris21
      Brand new to this forum. Questions about re-gearing my 26’ HD

      By chris21 · Posted

      I'm pretty sure it doesn't actually recalibrate the speedometer it just changes the wheel speed sensor inputs to the computer. The truck still thinks it has stock tires.
    • asilverblazer
      OCI, not when but why?

      By asilverblazer · Posted

      I apologize, I missed this post, at risk of going off CURRENT TOPIC.   I'm not saying it is BS, I'm questioning how much information is being held back. GM is NOT going to spell out exactly every parameter in the algorithm. Liability, intellectual property, etc.    I'm not naive enough to believe that it is as simple as revolutions, coolant temperature, miles, time; are you?    I don't do irrational either, and boiling the OLM down to four simple values that I could code in an afternoon (I'm not a coder) is irrational - unless it suits your agenda to ignore it. 
    • BDS my HD
      Brand new to this forum. Questions about re-gearing my 26’ HD

      By BDS my HD · Posted

      Chris 21 I appreciate your constructive response. !!  😉😉😉   The 6.6 is gas.  Correct me if I’m wrong but by recalibrating the speedo you’re correcting the shift points of the transmission on these trucks.?.
    • newdude
      Brand new to this forum. Questions about re-gearing my 26’ HD

      By newdude · Posted

      That is a huge misconception.     Bigger does not always equal safer.  Modifying does not make it safer either, with exceptions.   Think of this.  Your truck in stock form is capable of emergency maneuvers, proper stopping distances, its handling is designed around the factory wheel/tire packages, etc.   37s and a lift?  Now you've affected your braking distances, handling and ride control.  You've raised your center of gravity higher.  Your front visibility is now obstructed more than stock, same for your rear.  Does it look cooler?  Yes.  Does it now work as good as it did from factory on road?  NO.       As for my mention of exceptions?  Say you had a sedan or crossover.  They typically come with all season tires.  If you swap out for a performance all season or a summer tire, you improve your car by lowering its stopping distance (better braking because of traction) and improve the handling (regular and emergency) of the vehicle.  That is an actually improving modification.  My old 2019 LD 1500, I ran UHP all season tires on 20in wheels in a factory offered size.  It improved all aspects of how it drove over the Duratracs it came with from the factory in the stock 18" tire.  

  • GM-Trucks.com Clubs

  • Popular Contributors

×
×
  • Create New...