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sam hain

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New to GM's, just bought a 2016 over the weekend and want to disable AFM and get some trans tuning. I've been looking at the superchips flashpaq F5 and black bear. Is one better than the other? I know black bear is custom tuning, my truck is bone stock and I'm not looking to race it or anything. I'd just like to have a little more pep and get rid of the fast shifting (lugging) transmission improved.

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diyer2 Senior Enthusiast

diyer2

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No.

Haven't bought anything.

Honestly I think all the tunes are over priced.

I emailed Super Chips.

I want a canned tune for 87 octane because that's what I use.

The F5 towing tune is for 91 octane.

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1 hour ago, 1SLOW1500 said:

HPT mpvi2 is what you need.

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I am also interested in learning more about this. Plug in, data log, tune and go? 

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1SLOW1500

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I am also interested in learning more about this. Plug in, data log, tune and go? 
I will.start by saying not as easy as can tune. But not hard. You also.need a laptop.
It can scan,data log, erase codes or even delete them. It can also unlock vins and this is unlimited with credits so it can do all cars you come by. And of course it can edit it tune.
It is what all big performance shops have. As it is the best.
You can remote tune, email tune, tune yourself or take it to a shop as it is unlocked and dyno tune it.
Some people even buy them use it and when happy sell them and get back device price.
It is hands down the best there is and nothing it can't do.

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3 hours ago, sam hain said:

New to GM's, just bought a 2016 over the weekend and want to disable AFM and get some trans tuning. I've been looking at the superchips flashpaq F5 and black bear. Is one better than the other? I know black bear is custom tuning, my truck is bone stock and I'm not looking to race it or anything. I'd just like to have a little more pep and get rid of the fast shifting (lugging) transmission improved.

It is always a good idea to get advice and find out what other people have experienced when it comes to tuning. If you have any questions about our tuning process and what we offer, let us know, we will be happy to help. 

mookdoc6 Senior Enthusiast

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2 hours ago, 1SLOW1500 said:

I will.start by saying not as easy as can tune. But not hard. You also.need a laptop.
It can scan,data log, erase codes or even delete them. It can also unlock vins and this is unlimited with credits so it can do all cars you come by. And of course it can edit it tune.
It is what all big performance shops have. As it is the best.
You can remote tune, email tune, tune yourself or take it to a shop as it is unlocked and dyno tune it.
Some people even buy them use it and when happy sell them and get back device price.
It is hands down the best there is and nothing it can't do.

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Yup, I went this route!  PERFECT>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

diyer2 Senior Enthusiast

diyer2

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4 hours ago, 1SLOW1500 said:

HPT mpvi2 is what you need.

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Don't want to learn how to tune.

I said canned tune.

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1SLOW1500 Senior Enthusiast

1SLOW1500

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Don't want to learn how to tune.
I said canned tune.
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Well you are in luck most tuners. Ow a days don't want to learn either. But they have updated it now. And if you still don't then buy it anyways and unlock the vin and pay a guy to tune it for you. Save the file and still have the device for scanning,logs, changes(free), and error codes. Not bad for $299.99 also has track app and forum for help.

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Mileguru Enthusiast

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41 minutes ago, 1SLOW1500 said:

Not bad for $299.99

The newbs don't know that it's $299.99 PLUS the price of credits though. To use HPT (HP Tuners) on a 2016 Sierra, you're looking at $299.99 for the MPVI2 handheld (or you can buy it cheaper used or even get the old MPVI1) + $200 in credits (takes 4 credits at $50 each to be able to connect to and then tune your ENGINE) + $??? for the dyno tune (probably around $300-$400 since you are using your own credits...this is where you'll find the only variation in price in this whole hypothetical situation, so don't quote that price). So you're looking at $800 to buy your own HPT and then have a shop use it to dyno tune for you.

 

Then comes tuning the trans. You're lucky in that you don't have to pay $200 to unlock the TCM (transmission control module). 2017+ and you have to pay an extra $200. I'm pretty sure you still have to pay $200 in credits to connect to and tune the TRANS with HPT though. So now you're at $1000 total to tune a truck with no significant mods like a turbo or supercharger.

 

With no mods, even Black Bear is pretty much just a canned tune. Yes, he'll have you data log it first and build a tune off of that, but it's pretty much going to be the same tune all stock trucks will get from him.Same with Diablew. I'm not sure how much the F5 costs, but I'd still probably still go with Diablew or Black Bear because you'll get more out of them in the long run when you inevitably add something to your truck. Their initial stock truck tunes are probably better as well.

 

Still though, the most gains and performance are going to come from a dyno tune using HPT. It's all a cost analysis game though.

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