Throttle Lag

[g2full]

Contact the team at BBP and drop the coin for a full tune. 

 

Best way to go.

 

[Donstar]

18 hours ago, Jacoby said:

You wouldn’t know what to do with that kinda power back in your day

Kind of a silly statement.  It comes in a thread complaining about "throttle lag" on these high powered engines that supposedly overwhelm seniors.   What situations are people in that this "lag" is a problem?  Suddenly pounding on the pedal creates some hesitation but when I use steady and progressive pressure the truck accelerates as desired. If this isn't fast enough then I'm driving in an unsafe manner.    I know any lag is detrimental on the race track and understand the desire to have a vehicle in "race ready" type condition.  This hasn't changed since I was in high school!.   What special skills are required for driving a car with 500 hp over 200 hp?  I took my test in a '65 Mustang. and can't think of where the horsepower differential could impact the outcome. 

[Jacoby]

18 hours ago, KARNUT said:

You have to put it context. No nannies over 400 ft lbs of torque on bias ply tires. We didn’t have buttons to control take off, rev match. I doubt very seriously teens are taking their driving test in those cars. Can’t imagine a trouper getting in one with a teen either. Be real.


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Doubt all you want but it doesn’t change the fact that it’s true. There are little rich kids in this world believe it or not. Where I live you can go up to the local high school and the parking lot is full of Hellcats, Camaros and Mustangs. 
 

you could be driving a 300hp Javelin or a 700hp Hellcat and nanny or not, stay out of the gas and your fine. 
 

either way dumb argument. Point is “back in the day” doesn’t mean anything when talking about cars. 

[Jacoby]

9 minutes ago, Donstar said:

Kind of a silly statement.  It comes in a thread complaining about "throttle lag" on these high powered engines that supposedly overwhelm seniors.   What situations are people in that this "lag" is a problem?  Suddenly pounding on the pedal creates some hesitation but when I use steady and progressive pressure the truck accelerates as desired. If this isn't fast enough then I'm driving in an unsafe manner.    I know any lag is detrimental on the race track and understand the desire to have a vehicle in "race ready" type condition.  This hasn't changed since I was in high school!.   What special skills are required for driving a car with 500 hp over 200 hp?  I took my test in a '65 Mustang. and can't think of where the horsepower differential could impact the outcome. 

See above. You’re making the same point I am

[KARNUT]

Doubt all you want but it doesn’t change the fact that it’s true. There are little rich kids in this world believe it or not. Where I live you can go up to the local high school and the parking lot is full of Hellcats, Camaros and Mustangs. 

 

you could be driving a 300hp Javelin or a 700hp Hellcat and nanny or not, stay out of the gas and your fine. 

 

either way dumb argument. Point is “back in the day” doesn’t mean anything when talking about cars. 

My son’s first car was his mother’s Z-28 Camaro. My daughter first car was a Fiero GT V-6 stick. My second daughter had a hard time learning she got a LTD and later her mothers mustang. For grins I took them to the high school parking lot with my 65 elcamino 4 speed. It scared them silly. It was only the 250 horse 327. I lived through both I wouldn’t have a problem putting my kids in a nanny hypo car today. Long before I put them in my barracuda or javelin I had when I was in my teens. Or in the lettered or numbered cars I had prior to the nannies.

 

 

 

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[It's Tim]

1 hour ago, Jacoby said:

Where I live you can go up to the local high school and the parking lot is full of Hellcats, Camaros and Mustangs. 
 

 

Rich? LOL

They are more than likely living their lives via credit, vehicle loan default is the next looming bubble.

[Jacoby]

59 minutes ago, It's Tim said:

Rich? LOL

They are more than likely living their lives via credit, vehicle loan default is the next looming bubble.

High school kids don’t buy their cars on credit. Their parents due. 

[KARNUT]

High school kids don’t buy their cars on credit. Their parents due. 

I hate generalizations . My father was wealthy when I was a teenager. I worked from 12 to 16 years old baling hay in the summer. Most of my friends were farmers or construction workers. My cars were bought by me. First 2 were new. 73 Mazda then a 74 barracuda. My parents co-signed the first one. Most of my friends bought their own. Same with my kids friends. By the time my kids were driving age our business was doing well. We were well to do. I just saw an interview where Donald Trump jr. had to work for his stuff. My kids played sports. Most parents jazzed me about my son driving a Z 28. He always knew 1 ticket he was walking. I didn’t do that well. He never got one. None of those people just bought their kids cars. They had the money, they’re were strings. Good grades for college, chores or a job.

 

 

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[T1Kaiju]

LOL this thread (boomers vs gen xers - common man - both actually work!). Wifes MB E350 is hyper sensitive on gas pedal - too much as it has to be barely touched to not jerk all heads back. I hate it. My burb is predictable, and airaid jr kit added a little bit of help - they still $50 off on amz? If so git it!

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[KARNUT]

LOL this thread (boomers vs gen xers - common man - both actually work!). Wifes MB E350 is hyper sensitive on gas pedal - too much as it has to be barely touched to not jerk all heads back. I hate it. My burb is predictable, and airaid jr kit added a little bit of help - they still $50 off on amz? If so git it!

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I’m just having fun. We’re both right.


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[Yondu]

On 11/26/2019 at 12:07 PM, KARNUT said:

I hate generalizations . My father was wealthy when I was a teenager. I worked from 12 to 16 years old baling hay in the summer. Most of my friends were farmers or construction workers. My cars were bought by me. First 2 were new. 73 Mazda then a 74 barracuda. My parents co-signed the first one. Most of my friends bought their own. Same with my kids friends. By the time my kids were driving age our business was doing well. We were well to do. I just saw an interview where Donald Trump jr. had to work for his stuff. My kids played sports. Most parents jazzed me about my son driving a Z 28. He always knew 1 ticket he was walking. I didn’t do that well. He never got one. None of those people just bought their kids cars. They had the money, they’re were strings. Good grades for college, chores or a job.

 

 

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The point was kids don't have the credit to buy expensive cars, only their parents do.  Your not buying a Hellcat or ZL1 from the money you made bailing hay as a summer job when you were 14. 

 

Some of the delay is from pedal flex, at least on my car.  It still has a rubber band feel though and I never had that on my ls2 GTO or l76 (6.0) G8.  Both are electronic throttle.  

 

 

[KARNUT]

The point was kids don't have the credit to buy expensive cars, only their parents do.  Your not buying a Hellcat or ZL1 from the money you made bailing hay as a summer job when you were 14. 
 
Some of the delay is from pedal flex, at least on my car.  It still has a rubber band feel though and I never had that on my ls2 GTO or l76 (6.0) G8.  Both are electronic throttle.  
 
 

The only reason I didn’t buy a Shelby, 454 Chevelle, etc was people in my family had those. I had the money saved. My choice was a Rx3 Mazda new to the area or anything with a small motor. I was 17 after all. My father was driving a 72 Chevelle el Camino my mother a 73 caddy. The were no strangers to powerful cars. When I turned 18 I bought a 74 barracuda.


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[pickmeup]

Well GM has a sport mode in the 19 models so what does that tell you.