Coronavirus

SSchup · May 17, 2020

3 hours ago, graystonelbz said:

weather has nothing to do with it, this has been overblown nonsense from the beginning. Certain folks are being exposed. Locking down LA until July is a purely political move aimed at the election and other states are doing the same. It seems like everyone is coming around to what I said a month and a half ago....They were lying about the death toll. Just now they are taking deaths away from the count lol. I and others were told mentioning that was purely Fox new conspiracy. And now here we are and that's exactly what happened. Over 82% of deaths in my state are in nursing homes, those should have been the best protected places since the initial outbreak in Washington. Do you think weather played a role on those deaths? I do residential construction, business never stopped and I can't tell you of a single solitary person who got this virus because they continued on working and living life as normally as possible. And its a good thing they kept working when they could because there will be another mortgage crisis to follow that is going to be devastating to this industry. I hope many of you have learned a valuable lesson about the intentions of the US mainstream media. They and some other corrupt party attempted to destroy the economy solely because they don't like the orange guy. But hey, do you know what would really help the country now? How about we send free money to illegal aliens, have a mass release of prisons, maybe give large amounts of money to Cannabis stores, more money to planned parenthood, or even mail in voting. That all is directly connected to the virus crisis right? What a bunch of frauds, biggest scam in American history.

What state are you in that allowed residential construction during the stay at home stay safe weeks?

I think Florida did.

Donstar · May 17, 2020

40 minutes ago, graystonelbz said:

You don't vote here and are not affected by this country's policies. I don't care what's happening where you live.

I think this statement requires some more research. These two countries are significantly impacted by each other. The physical proximity alone is cause for mutual considerations. On a personal level, I have immediate family as citizens in both countries and we take a keen interest in and care about the politics of both countries. This thread is about the Coronovirus which has very little respect for borders!

Cpl_Punishment · May 17, 2020

51 minutes ago, Ithan Henry said:

1) What data do you have supporting this?

2) So if you don't see it firsthand it must not exist? Hmmmm.

3) You should do some research as to what caused the first mortgage crisis.

I think what people are forgetting is that the Great Depression didn't destroy us. In fact, we came out stronger afterwards. The mortgage crisis didn't destroy us either. Stop acting like we can't rebound from this like we have everything else.

I thought the Great Depression only ended because of WWII. If we are heading into a depression, I certainly hope that won't be the solution this time.

graystonelbz · May 17, 2020

2 hours ago, Ithan Henry said:

1) What data do you have supporting this?

2) So if you don't see it firsthand it must not exist? Hmmmm.

3) You should do some research as to what caused the first mortgage crisis.

I think what people are forgetting is that the Great Depression didn't destroy us. In fact, we came out stronger afterwards. The mortgage crisis didn't destroy us either. Stop acting like we can't rebound from this like we have everything else.

1. Yes, countries with summer seasons and mild weather also are dealing with this virus.

2. With no one being honest or correct with anything that has gone on with the debacle I only believe what I see yes.

3. I lived through the past mortgage crisis ans a GC so I'm well aware of what caused it. The factors are not the same, not arguing that. But we didn't have 30 million people out of work completely for 3-6 months. And not all of those industries will be allowed to come back at full steam. Many people will lose their business permanently and a strong possibility that they will have no job to return to. A great part of the country was not affected by the previous crash, this time it directly hits everybody. No industries were completely shut down for anywhere near this length of time. In time we will bounce back, but not really at the same time...where do you think all these bailout dollars come from. You seem to be the one who should research how finance and the economy work bud.

Ithan Henry · May 17, 2020

1 hour ago, graystonelbz said:

A great part of the country was not affected by the previous crash, this time it directly hits everybody. No industries were completely shut down for anywhere near this length of time. In time we will bounce back, but not really at the same time...where do you think all these bailout dollars come from. You seem to be the one who should research how finance and the economy work bud.

Actually, considering that a type of predatory lending aimed at the lower and middle class caused the last crisis, there were more people affected than you lead on. This time it still affects the lower and middle class more than anything.

Oh, and seeing as how you previously stated that you don't care what happens in other countries, you might wanna look up isolationism and see how well that works......Bud.

Ithan Henry · May 17, 2020

2 hours ago, Cpl_Punishment said:

I thought the Great Depression only ended because of WWII. If we are heading into a depression, I certainly hope that won't be the solution this time.

There's debates about what truly ended it. Some give credit to Truman's administration policies after the war. WWII actually sent out national debt through the roof. Not to say the wartime production didn't help, but it wasn't the sole factor in ending the depression.

graystonelbz · May 17, 2020

2 hours ago, Ithan Henry said:

Actually, considering that a type of predatory lending aimed at the lower and middle class caused the last crisis, there were more people affected than you lead on. This time it still affects the lower and middle class more than anything.

Oh, and seeing as how you previously stated that you don't care what happens in other countries, you might wanna look up isolationism and see how well that works......Bud.

I can't see what point you're trying to make here, I can only conclude that you are completely detached from reality

swathdiver · May 18, 2020

7 hours ago, graystonelbz said:

So during this whole thing we are being told to trust the science. Why don't we listen to the science when it clearly says that men can't be women and vice versa? Obviously there is no science that says anything to the contrary. We live in an age where we apply science when it fits our need or a narrative, but not when it doesn't fit a political or social agenda....Hmmmmm

Right, science politicized is not science at all. The left does not believe in science, they believe in tyranny and will lie about anything and everything to relentlessly advance that cause.

Grumpy Bear · May 18, 2020

Didn't need me to put this tread in the ditch.

:crackup:

Edited May 18, 2020 by Grumpy Bear

graystonelbz · May 18, 2020

9 hours ago, SSchup said:

What state are you in that allowed residential construction during the stay at home stay safe weeks?

I think Florida did.

Minnesota, it was tough to get certain remodel inspections for a couple weeks, but most cities allowed facetime or the like for those. New construction has started to slow but was never forced to shut down. We do everything from new homes to smaller quick jobs like siding, roofing and windows. I expect the new home market to come to halt by fall. Many new subdivisions have been put on hold around here, lots of uncertainty.

Edited May 18, 2020 by graystonelbz

graystonelbz · May 18, 2020

9 hours ago, Donstar said:

I think this statement requires some more research. These two countries are significantly impacted by each other. The physical proximity alone is cause for mutual considerations. On a personal level, I have immediate family as citizens in both countries and we take a keen interest in and care about the politics of both countries. This thread is about the Coronovirus which has very little respect for borders!

No, it doesn't require research. Canada and the US are not the same country no matter their proximity. They do not share a political system or elected officials. You are commenting on a political comment which I have nicely pointed out doesn't involve you.

SSchup · May 18, 2020

13 hours ago, graystonelbz said:

Minnesota, it was tough to get certain remodel inspections for a couple weeks, but most cities allowed facetime or the like for those. New construction has started to slow but was never forced to shut down. We do everything from new homes to smaller quick jobs like siding, roofing and windows. I expect the new home market to come to halt by fall. Many new subdivisions have been put on hold around here, lots of uncertainty.

In Michigan they shut construction right down March 24th completely if it wasn't critical infrastructure work. I'm a flatwork contractor and we were shut down due to no redi-mix plants delivering. Our Governor let Landscapers go back to work 2 weeks before construction. She let construction open May 7th, I said screw it and went back a week earlier. Not sure how new construction is going to fare but I'm busy with private work. Seems as though people are wanting to spend money on upgrades for their homes. I'm booked at least into August right now.

KARNUT · May 18, 2020

Over the weekend I saw what happens when the government over reaches in in places like New York and New Jersey. People throw caution to the wind and basically go nuts. They have to get out, damn the torpedos. Where In places like Texas and apparently Georgia and Florida. People stick to guidelines when opening. Because people are trustworthy and don’t feel oppressed. In the 4 times I ate out people were behaving like instructed, following guidelines. Things are looking good so far.

Grumpy Bear · May 18, 2020

53 minutes ago, KARNUT said:

Over the weekend I saw what happens when the government over reaches in in places like New York and New Jersey. People throw caution to the wind and basically go nuts. They have to get out, damn the torpedos. Where In places like Texas and apparently Georgia and Florida. People stick to guidelines when opening. Because people are trustworthy and don’t feel oppressed. In the 4 times I ate out people were behaving like instructed, following guidelines. Things are looking good so far.

I just saw on CNN just minutes ago a notable uptick in Texas new cases. One of the 17 states showing an up trend. Up from 7 states week prior. Some lower 48 state map being trotted out.

Grumpy Bear · May 18, 2020

Question for the group. IF your going to toss the CDC under a buss and not trust them then whom do you think has the technical expertise to do what they do? Whose the replacement?