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2 hours ago, mookdoc6 said:

The list goes on and on.....and now the Falling off the cliff or right side of Curve is happening and nobody says anything other than just wait it will get worse and have a resurgence!!  I like the guy Bright Phd and his "Darkest winter" memoir?  Really, you can't say that.  I will be the first to call that out.  The only thing to be said about Covid-19 in Fall Season for Northern Hemisphere is....it's possible?

Same irresponsible crap we’ve been getting from the start. Like the Imperial College model that caused our entire country to shut down and lose their minds. Can never be wrong when you’re a doomsayer. When it comes true, you were right...and when it doesn’t, it’s because “we reacted in time” and you’re viewed as a savior.


Even if it’s as bad as he thinks it may be, COVID is going to be the least of our problems by then if we can’t get the country back up and running. 

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35 minutes ago, OnTheReel said:

 When it comes true, you were right...and when it doesn’t, it’s because “we reacted in time” and you’re viewed as a savior.

You did listen to yourself when you wrote this, right? 

Did you really mean to argue against common sense? 

 

Guy says shut off the water.

Other guy thinks:

The sink will run over if you don't shut off the water but if I shut off the water the sink didn't run over.

Either way he's right!!

 

If you don't, the sink runs over and your right

If you do, it doesn't run over and  your right

C'mon man!

Really?

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The governor of Florida was just on the TV. He was scolding the media who had said he was irresponsible for opening his state. It’s been 8 weeks, all is well. Proving done right opening is no problem. Protect the venerable, turn the rest loose. 

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29 minutes ago, Grumpy Bear said:

You did listen to yourself when you wrote this, right? 

Did you really mean to argue against common sense? 

 

Guy says shut off the water.

Other guy thinks:

The sink will run over if you don't shut off the water but if I shut off the water the sink didn't run over.

Either way he's right!!

 

If you don't, the sink runs over and your right

If you do, it doesn't run over and  your right

C'mon man!

Really?

My point is that these so called experts operate with impunity. There’s no accountability for anything they say or any sort of inflated model they come up with. No matter what.
 

Unfortunately this isn’t the kitchen sink. There are downsides to “turning the water off”. We’ve sunk the economy and destroyed lives based on models they came up with.
 

FYI, most of these models took into account the social distancing and lockdowns, and were still VERY wrong....

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1 hour ago, OnTheReel said:

My point is that these so called experts operate with impunity. There’s no accountability for anything they say or any sort of inflated model they come up with. No matter what.
 

Unfortunately this isn’t the kitchen sink. There are downsides to “turning the water off”. We’ve sunk the economy and destroyed lives based on models they came up with.
 

FYI, most of these models took into account the social distancing and lockdowns, and were still VERY wrong....

Do you walk on water? Simple question.

You seem to expect perfection from everyone. 

 

Have you now noticed the under reporting going on is some states to hasten reentry? 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/20/us/florida-georgia-covid-19-test-data/index.html

 

At least they have a life to destroy.

Possessions can be required

Life not so much

 

You are talking to a guy that has started from ground zero four  times due to injustice just as irrational as COVID-19.

I mean living out of you car starting over. You get no pity from me. I landed on my feet every time.....so far....And yes I had children. 

 

How would you expect me to act toward those who find me...how should we say....dispensable due to my age. 

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3 hours ago, OnTheReel said:

Same irresponsible crap we’ve been getting from the start. Like the Imperial College model that caused our entire country to shut down and lose their minds. Can never be wrong when you’re a doomsayer. When it comes true, you were right...and when it doesn’t, it’s because “we reacted in time” and you’re viewed as a savior.


Even if it’s as bad as he thinks it may be, COVID is going to be the least of our problems by then if we can’t get the country back up and running. 

Right ON!  Then the redacted "model" Study" the guy came out months later?  Yeah....I even had family members get Sucked into the CNN nonsense.  Sad to watch well educated folks get completely lied and mislead?  Problem is they don't know any different and that is the CRUX of the Problem.....Totally normal and moral for every picnic table in park to have a sharps/needle container drop?  Glad your young enough to see through it and fight for the last bits and pieces of AMERICA because they have destroyed it......Everybody almost broke too!  Except well you know who????? 

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1 hour ago, Grumpy Bear said:

Do you walk on water? Simple question.

You seem to expect perfection from everyone. 

 

Have you now noticed the under reporting going on is some states to hasten reentry? 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/20/us/florida-georgia-covid-19-test-data/index.html

 

At least they have a life to destroy.

Possessions can be required

Life not so much

 

 

 

 

You are talking to a guy that has started from ground zero four  times due to injustice just as irrational as COVID-19.

I mean living out of you car starting over. You get no pity from me. I landed on my feet every time.....so far....And yes I had children. 

 

How would you expect me to act toward those who find me...how should we say....dispensable due to my age. 


People in high risk groups need to be protected. But you seem to ignore the adverse health effects of locking the low risk people in their homes.
 

This is not strictly a monetary problem, so before you give me the “pushing granny off a cliff” argument or other platitudes, consider the effects of stress, anxiety, depression on the body.
 

Consider the people falling into alcoholism because liquor stores are deemed essential but outdoor activities and productive work is not.

 

Consider the 800% uptick in calls to the suicide hotline because people are isolated and hopeless. Scared well beyond reason by a media who’s only focused on doing what’s politically expedient for a certain party.

 

Consider the increase in fatal drug overdoses as recreational users become full on addicts with nothing else to do (and a government check to support it). In my region, more people went to the morgue for this last weekend, then they did from COVID.

 

Consider the number of routine screenings for other health issues that have been postponed or canceled. Canceled based on flawed models in preparation for hospitals full of COVID patients...never happened. Cancers missed, people having strokes and heart attacks but either afraid to go in, or unable to be seen by doctors.
 

People gaining weight, eating poorly?

 

Domestic violence increases? Child abuse?  Everyone stuck at home wearing on one another...you know where that can lead.
 

Is all of this worth it? For a virus that doesn’t effect most people who get it? Who’s really arguing against common sense?

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1 hour ago, OnTheReel said:


People in high risk groups need to be protected. But you seem to ignore the adverse health effects of locking the low risk people in their homes.
 

This is not strictly a monetary problem, so before you give me the “pushing granny off a cliff” argument or other platitudes, consider the effects of stress, anxiety, depression on the body.
 

Consider the people falling into alcoholism because liquor stores are deemed essential but outdoor activities and productive work is not.

 

Consider the 800% uptick in calls to the suicide hotline because people are isolated and hopeless. Scared well beyond reason by a media who’s only focused on doing what’s politically expedient for a certain party.

 

Consider the increase in fatal drug overdoses as recreational users become full on addicts with nothing else to do (and a government check to support it). In my region, more people went to the morgue for this last weekend, then they did from COVID.

 

Consider the number of routine screenings for other health issues that have been postponed or canceled. Canceled based on flawed models in preparation for hospitals full of COVID patients...never happened. Cancers missed, people having strokes and heart attacks but either afraid to go in, or unable to be seen by doctors.
 

People gaining weight, eating poorly?

 

Domestic violence increases? Child abuse?  Everyone stuck at home wearing on one another...you know where that can lead.
 

Is all of this worth it? For a virus that doesn’t effect most people who get it? Who’s really arguing against common sense?

You mays well give up with mr bear. Some states there’s been a little up tic, mainly due  to additional testing. Hospitalization are down as well as deaths. The goal was to flatten the curve, it’s been done. If all states followed the Florida model when it came to the elderly the deaths across the US, would have been much less. Some people believe 50 percent unemployment would be ok. Discounting the affects that causes. Remember the people thought the WHO and the CDC were gospel. Even after DR Birx said otherwise. Business are failing, even governments are laying off. Blue state governors are drunk on power. Even as their people protest. Time to open up. 

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https://www.startribune.com/minn-nursing-homes-already-site-of-81-of-covid-19-deaths-still-taking-in-infected-patients/570601282/

That is what's going on in Minnesota, but on a smaller scale....and they are still doing this. Smells very badly of facilitating death to justify this lock down. Today the governor generously said that restaurants could open June 1st if they have an outdoor patio. So that means 90% of restaurants can't open and oh yea, we get alot of rain in the summer. Locking down the entire state because of the governors mishandling of nursing homes is not justified whatsoever. Restaurant owners have been preparing their businesses for 2 months implementing equipment to safely reopen on June 1st. Then this kick in the balls....****** is about to hit the fan here, stay tuned.

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Texas is a conservative state with cities that are not. Harris county is where the city of Houston is. My county Montgomery is one county north. Most county’s  along with the state went to phase two. Harris county ( the city of Houston) didn’t. There’s no cure they say. All the while the county rate of infections are lower than the state. All around the county are large towns and small cities. In fifteen minutes or less you can be in a phase two area. Soon the city of Houston will say they’re broke. Isn’t it amazing? I guess they forgot about flatten the curve. 

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It’s being reported on Fox News this morning that over 600 doctors sent in a petition to open the country. The over all health of the nation is being adversely affected by the shut down. The so called cure is worse than the virus. Meanwhile the unemployment numbers are bad again.


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