Coronavirus

mookdoc6 · May 21, 2020

30 minutes ago, KARNUT said:

It’s being reported on Fox News this morning that over 600 doctors sent in a petition to open the country. The over all health of the nation is being adversely affected by the shut down. The so called cure is worse than the virus. Meanwhile the unemployment numbers are bad again.

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Meanwhile.....Pretty much every Hospital in the country is now laying off or furloughing workers. Great idea America put a couple more Liberal Professors Scary Talk out in the Media so we can keep the FEAR ALIVE! Like another poster said, "for a virus that effects 2,3 out of ten people to seek over the counter meds" 80% over 80years of age recover..........

Cpl_Punishment · May 21, 2020

14 hours ago, mookdoc6 said:

Everybody almost broke too! Except well you know who?????

DJT?

KARNUT · May 21, 2020

DJT?

Let’s see. Do we want a very successful rich guy who actually loses net worth making our country better? Or stone broke people who get rich after? Wonder why they get paid so much for speaking engagements after? Or writing books after with huge advances? Or maybe nominate a guy who’s son made a bit of cash working with our competitors? Who may help with that hiring. Just wondering. End of political speak for today.

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The Zip · May 21, 2020

2 hours ago, mookdoc6 said:

Meanwhile.....Pretty much every Hospital in the country is now laying off or furloughing workers.

The writing's on the wall, at least in blue states. Relief from the senate to support essential services to those states will be slim to none. I expected educators, police, medical, food banks, then fire fighters furloughing in varying percentages in that order. For the most part, educators are already there.

Grumpy Bear · May 21, 2020

13 hours ago, OnTheReel said:

People in high risk groups need to be protected. But you seem to ignore the adverse health effects of locking the low risk people in their homes.

This is not strictly a monetary problem, so before you give me the “pushing granny off a cliff” argument or other platitudes, consider the effects of stress, anxiety, depression on the body.

Consider the people falling into alcoholism because liquor stores are deemed essential but outdoor activities and productive work is not.

Consider the 800% uptick in calls to the suicide hotline because people are isolated and hopeless. Scared well beyond reason by a media who’s only focused on doing what’s politically expedient for a certain party.

Consider the increase in fatal drug overdoses as recreational users become full on addicts with nothing else to do (and a government check to support it). In my region, more people went to the morgue for this last weekend, then they did from COVID.

Consider the number of routine screenings for other health issues that have been postponed or canceled. Canceled based on flawed models in preparation for hospitals full of COVID patients...never happened. Cancers missed, people having strokes and heart attacks but either afraid to go in, or unable to be seen by doctors.

People gaining weight, eating poorly?

Domestic violence increases? Child abuse? Everyone stuck at home wearing on one another...you know where that can lead.

Is all of this worth it? For a virus that doesn’t effect most people who get it? Who’s really arguing against common sense?

Valid points one and all. They are a concern. Many a personal moral concern. Something the individual has the ability to control independently. I've tried the "Johnny got me drunk' speech with my dad about 50 years ago. Drugs ditto. Didn't fly then, doesn't fly now.

That said there are also items on your list that are truly outside a persons control. A child being beaten for example. Suicide is a real threat. Interrupted food chain. I'm not indifferent nor cruel. I'm also not seeing it as hopelessly as many do. I look at this example and it gives me pause:

Gen 8:3 says Noah was "say at home" in the ark for 150 days with 2 to 7 of every creature on the earth plus his wife, three sons and their wives. Why do you think they survived it without these issues? He and his family spent nearly 50 years building that box, cut off from the world in general. The world had become so violent God condemned it. 50 years with your head on a task at home. Isolated.

When I look at that I see two things they had going for them. Gods BACKING and PURPOSE.

I have an aunt whose been on her back in hospice for over two years crippled by rheumatoid arthritis and heart failure and she's as cheerful as they get. Girl can't feed/bath nor clean herself but she has purpose. She is going to convert the entire home if shes's their long enough.

There are worst things than stay at home and loosing your job. The rest is manageable or there's support for if you have PURPOSE.

I've had a gun in my mouth sir. People don't do this because they've lost hope. They've lost purpose. A few to overwhelming grief.

Part of the problem with old age is also it's blessing. Experience. Most of which stole your innocence, caused you grief and wore away at hope. Yet you survive and thrive. It can also be a fountain of refreshment for those wise enough to listen to it that are not old enough to have been beaten by it silly. I've been hit so hard I believe the outhouse is the penthouse and I'm still here. Think I did that on my own?

I believe in God's promise to never every leave those seeking him. Isaiah 41:8-13

The Zip · May 21, 2020

3 minutes ago, Grumpy Bear said:

Girl can't feed/bath nor clean herself but she has purpose. She is going to convert the entire home if shes's their long enough.

Very good

mookdoc6 · May 21, 2020

15 minutes ago, The Zip said:

The writing's on the wall, at least in blue states. Relief from the senate to support essential services to those states will be slim to none. I expected educators, police, medical, food banks, then fire fighters furloughing in varying percentages in that order. For the most part, educators are already there.

Yup, you got it! 90% of everything this consumer economy is predicated on is PAY-AS-YOU-GO! Here we are for Sale signs are sprouting up I see and another month or two all the jobs needed to handle the overruns at grocery stores will be WACKED! But hey.....we need 30K ventilators in N.Y. and we will shut down until the SCIENCE tell us otherwise? LOL...100% idiots

Mr. Pritzker? Where is your family? Florida? How many phase in's required in your state? Hawaii? You gonna keep the middle finger up to the Country and the World who travel until June 30th? Yeah...O.K. I am sure your Hawaiian residents who are 95% dependent upon travel APPROVE your message! Good luck bouncing back in 1-2 months. Thanks Govs!

Cpl_Punishment · May 21, 2020

59 minutes ago, KARNUT said:

Let’s see. Do we want a very successful rich guy who actually loses net worth making our country better? Or stone broke people who get rich after? Wonder why they get paid so much for speaking engagements after? Or writing books after with huge advances? Or maybe nominate a guy who’s son made a bit of cash working with our competitors? Who may help with that hiring. Just wondering. End of political speak for today.

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Thejet07 · May 21, 2020

Desantis came out guns blazing on that cnn reporting. Very typical of cnn not to have the facts beforehand. They inject nonsense for the crowds to stir.

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The Zip · May 21, 2020

30 minutes ago, mookdoc6 said:

Here we are for Sale signs are sprouting up I see and another month or two all the jobs needed to handle the overruns at grocery stores will be WACKED!

Good luck bouncing back in 1-2 months.

Got it. If state's economies were jacked up prior to the virus, this is happening because of the virus. My point is, bad management or the virus, states better have a plan how essential work will be done. Not going to involve luck.

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The Zip · May 21, 2020

If I am a governor right now because the writing is on the wall, I am cutting police up to 40%, medical up to 30%, foodbanks up to 20%, and Fire fighters up to 10%. In that order. Educators, go ahead and stay home.

mookdoc6 · May 21, 2020

22 minutes ago, Thejet07 said:

Desantis came out guns blazing on that cnn reporting. Very typical of cnn not to have the facts beforehand. They inject nonsense for the crowds to stir.

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No.No...that is Don Lemon's job at CNN! lol

mikemcclain8 · May 21, 2020

21 hours ago, Grumpy Bear said:

You did listen to yourself when you wrote this, right?

Did you really mean to argue against common sense?

Guy says shut off the water.

Other guy thinks:

The sink will run over if you don't shut off the water but if I shut off the water the sink didn't run over.

Either way he's right!!

If you don't, the sink runs over and your right

If you do, it doesn't run over and your right

C'mon man!

Really?

I think a more accurate comparison would be:

NASA: An asteroid with "earth destroying capabilities" is going to impact California in 2 weeks. Everyone needs to move to the midwest to avoid extinction. Chaos ensues as millions head east.

2 Weeks later: We apologize. We forgot to carry the 1 and move the decimal. It didn't even come close.