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Nothing else has worked,now,it's buy the election,lol

I think the stupidity is neck and neck in this situation.


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I’m wondering. Remember H1-N1? Mass hysteria? Stock Market going crazy? Who’s going to make money? Who’s pushing the most hysteria?

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I work in a gov't office in a secret underground undisclosed location, as they say.  No, really.  We received a briefing from an epidemiologist in Washington State.  He said that if you put someone in

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Several older people have appeared on TV recently say let’s get back to living. I’m willing to die to get this economy back up. You want more prof open bingo halls or casinos. Me being older I say the same. I would avoid crowds in affected areas for awhile. But as a free country I want the choice. In doing that be advised. There’s a chance that you could be aged or health condition out of a respirator. Or have to take a pill, as said by the last president.

 

 

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Stay at home order starts today here in Colorado.

From state web site.

1,086 cases
147 hospitalized
36 counties
8,064 people tested
19 deaths 
9 outbreaks at residential and non-hospital health care facilities

 

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A mock corona virus "pandemic" convention hosted by Bill Gates 4 months before the corona virus pandemic hits? Give me a break. The guy stands to make billions when he releases his vaccine.  

 

Anyone know anyone that is deathly ill and in hospital on a ventilator? Personally, not a news clipping/photo, celebrity or hear-say? Your mom, brother, friend, otherwise healthy and now in intensive care? No test kits in my part of the world. Canadian media now claiming the confirmed Covid19 cases do not need to be retested after 14 day self-isolation and are effectively good to return to normal life...

 

When have we shut the economy off for a virus? H1N1, Sars, Bird Flu, Ebola, Zika, West Nile? Remember last year when CNN told us they had video of airstrikes in Syria and it turned out to be military training exercises in mainland USA? 

 

There is a lot more than a virus going on here, in my opinion. I have been tirelessly looking into this, haven't been spending much time on the forum. Follow the money people. 

 

Call me a tin hatter all you want, it is our duty as a citizen to study situations like this and not just accept everything the media or officials say as blind truth. They have given us plenty of reasons not to trust them throughout history. 

 

One thing is certain after all this, higher taxes and less human rights.

 

Godspeed everyone and stay safe. 

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Little oh my goodness. Went to my favorite car wash this morning. Of course they changed their hours. Screwed up my busy routine. So I’m at the self vacuum area waiting. I notice cars going through the wash. So I asked the attendant (from six feet up wind) what’s with the vacuum? Corporate says no vacuum because of the bug. Keep in mind your about six ft away anyway. I said as my fertile business mind kicks in, how about every other hose? With a blank look he say corporate say no vacuum. This is as he accepting money out of the hands of paying costumers. Ahh the future looks bright.


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Note, it's not just the direct deaths (those that catch COVID19 and for whatever reason, even with proper medical attention, die from it or from it causing other complications).  There's also the much larger group of people who catch it and need hospitalization (either just a "regular" bed, or a spot in the ICU).  And those two groups (those that need to be hospitalized, and would then either die or eventually get well with proper medical attention), is expected to (particularly if we go along with our fearless leaders plan of getting back to work really soon) exceed our hospitals capacity (both in beds and equipment).  And at that point, it becomes everyone's problem, as it's not just COVID19 patients being turned away at the hospital, it's everyone, from babies with complications, to accident victims to any other medical problem requiring hospitalization.
 
So that wack-job Lt. Gov in Texas's idea of just getting back to work and the old and infirm are willing to risk it so he can go back to making money, is lying in two ways:
1)  he's NOT risking his life in any way.  First sign of a cough, he's getting the nearest ambulance to toss out whoever's in it and get him to the nearest, best hospital with a police escort, and then drag someone out of their ICU bed for him to sit on until the best doctor in the hospital see's him and he says "I think I have a bit of a cough and I might have COVID19.  You need to help me right now!"
2) he's risking everyone else's life, as anyone who happens to need hospitalization during his planned trainwreck can lose their life simply because of lack of resources, even if they don't have COVID19 or have recovered from it already.
There is the panic way which new york is doing, and there is the pragmatic way like we are doing in Texas. Ill take TX every day. Todays newest panic piece from ny times talks about running out of vents, then you read the story, and they "almost did" but were replenished by other hospitals. Vents are rented all the time in flu season which is mainly over. Why do you think a positive covid = sure ventilation and death? WAY more people are infected than the numbers show, and most need to do nothing. This is swine flu 2, and honestly, it just has to run its course...

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There is the panic way which new york is doing, and there is the pragmatic way like we are doing in Texas. Ill take TX every day. Todays newest panic piece from ny times talks about running out of vents, then you read the story, and they "almost did" but were replenished by other hospitals. Vents are rented all the time in flu season which is mainly over. Why do you think a positive covid = sure ventilation and death? WAY more people are infected than the numbers show, and most need to do nothing. This is swine flu 2, and honestly, it just has to run its course...

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New York says they need 30K-40k vents. A doctor came on Fox News and said they would have to have 2 million affected to reach that number. To trickle to the unhealthy. As their numbers are beginning to taper a bit. Mass hysteria is always the rule until otherwise proven.


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I know you want to keep the discussion going and like to keep it interesting.  You make and receive some good points but know not everyone interprets information in the same manner.  I am glad most leaders take this threat seriously and are directing their citizens to behave in an unselfish manner.  As I have suggested before,  I find the global response  impressive.  There are situations where we need to be cognoscente of our responsibilities to others and on a larger scale.  My neighbour has this posted outside of her house, "The world has come together by staying apart."  We are just at the beginning of this crisis and some have yet to take it seriously. However. I believe most have gone beyond making comparisons to flu or car accidents statistics and are taking this pandemic seriously.  Adopting a mindset that this will be a threat for an extended period of time and doing our part to slow down/eliminate the spread is the best we can do for our fellow citizens. 

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I know you want to keep the discussion going and like to keep it interesting.  You make and receive some good points but know not everyone interprets information in the same manner.  I am glad most leaders take this threat seriously and are directing their citizens to behave in an unselfish manner.  As I have suggested before,  I find the global response  impressive.  There are situations where we need to be cognoscente of our responsibilities to others and on a larger scale.  My neighbour has this posted outside of her house, "The world has come together by staying apart."  We are just at the beginning of this crisis and some have yet to take it seriously. However. I believe most have gone beyond making comparisons to flu or car accidents statistics and are taking this pandemic seriously.  Adopting a mindset that this will be a threat for an extended period of time and doing our part to slow down/eliminate the spread is the best we can do for our fellow citizens. 

We’re about at the point where there’re going to start walking back a-bit. Unless they’re able to test every one we’ll never know many really have had it. I believe this added to the flu will result in a bad flu year. Sure its going to move around as people pass it around. Living through H1-N1 and how it was reported. It’s not hard to make the leap there’s some media driven play here. Keeping the thread going is easy our media on the other side (anti trump) provides the fuel. Another attempt that’s going to backfire on them. Each time the cost gets higher.


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How good is the info we receive?my state and county sites are conflicting on the #'s,both updated today at same time,worst #,we are at 6

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USA 327 million people 79,800 confirmed cases 

China 1.4 BILLON people 81,800 confirmed cases

Given it another hour and we will overtake Italy. 60.5 million people 80,600 confirmed cases.

Wo-whoo, we are going to win the race!! 

 

 

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Little oh my goodness. Went to my favorite car wash this morning. Of course they changed their hours. Screwed up my busy routine. So I’m at the self vacuum area waiting. I notice cars going through the wash. So I asked the attendant (from six feet up wind) what’s with the vacuum? Corporate says no vacuum because of the bug. Keep in mind your about six ft away anyway. I said as my fertile business mind kicks in, how about every other hose? With a blank look he say corporate say no vacuum. This is as he accepting money out of the hands of paying costumers. Ahh the future looks bright.


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In the 70's, 80's and 90,s we could not trust the Govt. Now we can't trust the news. Corona is all they have to report on so they are blowing it out of proportion?????

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I know you want to keep the discussion going and like to keep it interesting.  You make and receive some good points but know not everyone interprets information in the same manner.  I am glad most leaders take this threat seriously and are directing their citizens to behave in an unselfish manner.  As I have suggested before,  I find the global response  impressive.  There are situations where we need to be cognoscente of our responsibilities to others and on a larger scale.  My neighbour has this posted outside of her house, "The world has come together by staying apart."  We are just at the beginning of this crisis and some have yet to take it seriously. However. I believe most have gone beyond making comparisons to flu or car accidents statistics and are taking this pandemic seriously.  Adopting a mindset that this will be a threat for an extended period of time and doing our part to slow down/eliminate the spread is the best we can do for our fellow citizens. 

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In the 70's, 80's and 90,s we could not trust the Govt. Now we can't trust the news. Corona is all they have to report on so they are blowing it out of proportion?????

I don’t trust government either. One said we could keep our doctor. Wrong! The other said he was going to move our embassy in Israel. Fix it he VA, Fight China, bring business back, move our economy big league. It happened. The other side has produced a couple fake scandals in the mean time. Now there’s this. I don’t know what it takes to get people attention, they got mine.

 

 

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If someone is coming to a Chevy truck site for answers to the pandemic,shame on them,it's all talk,isn't it,?those who disagree still post,if you don't like what you read,go get a feel good readers digest

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