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2 hours ago, Cpl_Punishment said:

Which make? 

2013 Odyssey EX-L. I guess that gen of Odysseys have known issues with suspension components. 

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Cpl_Punishment
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The key question here is: why weren't you making Mrs. Econometrics drive the minivan? 

econometrics
econometrics

? We had $5500 of (warrantied, thank God!) work done on the suspension, so I needed to make sure the dealer got it right. ? 

JimCost2014
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That just sounds more like something that would be happening in the minivan.....

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10 minutes ago, econometrics said:

2013 Odyssey EX-L. I guess that gen of Odysseys have known issues with suspension components. 

Yeah, I heard those Odysseys had some issues. Surprising for Honda. 

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My biggest complaint about my 2019 when I got it was that the back end felt "light." I live in a rural area and drive probably 35% gravel roads. My 2017 I could run 60mph down a rough gravel road if I wanted to and it would stay straight. My 2019 was scary on gravel at first and I would notice it even on bumps on the highway. I have since leveled my truck and put airbags on the back axle and it seems better than it used to be, but I may have gotten used to it to in the 12k miles I have put on it. GM must not have tested off the highway much with these trucks. 

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Where are you guys getting Bilsteins for the rear?    I can’t find em anywhere.   I desperately want shocks for the rear.  2019 Silverado

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7 hours ago, CatRacer213 said:

My biggest complaint about my 2019 when I got it was that the back end felt "light." I live in a rural area and drive probably 35% gravel roads. My 2017 I could run 60mph down a rough gravel road if I wanted to and it would stay straight. My 2019 was scary on gravel at first and I would notice it even on bumps on the highway. I have since leveled my truck and put airbags on the back axle and it seems better than it used to be, but I may have gotten used to it to in the 12k miles I have put on it. GM must not have tested off the highway much with these trucks. 

My 2020 rides just like that paved roads.  I can get the rear to step out on just regular roads. Hell it will do it on a Interstate.  I haven't taken it down the washboard dirt road yet.  Already know the outcome. 

Wiggums Senior Enthusiast

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I was probably the first one to report it.. RST wasn't that common when I first got it.. and got picked on left and right from GM fanboys.
 

I was so pissed over it. Fortunately, other RST Z71 and Elevation X31 owners are reporting the same thing. I was shocked it could actually keep sliding sideways with the wild shuddering and I had to slam my brakes.

Bilsteins 5100s are the way to go. The front end stays planted to the road but the back end was a completely different story. The F-150 I had before that would have all four tires bobbing up and down, but at least all four were the same so it never fishtailed.

The comments from those who couldn't dish it are why I have over 20 members here blocked.

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The only thing that helped the ride and control in such situations was adding a Hellwig Big Wig anti-sway bar at the rear axle. No change in ride with a heavy load in the bed but when the bed was empty there was a lot of wheel hop before adding the Big Wig.

 

If shocks were the problem it would be evident with irregular tire wear. If you have a bad shock it should be evident if you bounce on the corners of the truck and compare the results. I have had GM and Mercedes shocks fail after as few as 20,000 miles.

Dunn Senior Enthusiast

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On 7/17/2020 at 7:30 PM, ohskigod said:

Where are you guys getting Bilsteins for the rear?    I can’t find em anywhere.   I desperately want shocks for the rear.  2019 Silverado

i believe the 2018 rears are same and fit new model.....its the fronts that are different

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On 7/10/2020 at 11:33 AM, tonto340 said:

I just put Bilstein 5100s on the rear of mine today. I haven't driven it yet.

There is now a 5100 for the front but no one has it yet. Part # for the front will be Part Number: 24-293297. The rear is Part Number: 24-293471.

Did you drive it yet? Was there an actual difference or do you believe that it is more in your mind?

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BlancoSilverado: I think my truck rides a little better with the Bilsteins. The 5100s react faster which keeps the tires in contact with the road surface, i.e., less bounce.

 

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On 7/18/2020 at 6:29 PM, Wintersun said:

The only thing that helped the ride and control in such situations was adding a Hellwig Big Wig anti-sway bar at the rear axle. No change in ride with a heavy load in the bed but when the bed was empty there was a lot of wheel hop before adding the Big Wig.

 

If shocks were the problem it would be evident with irregular tire wear. If you have a bad shock it should be evident if you bounce on the corners of the truck and compare the results. I have had GM and Mercedes shocks fail after as few as 20,000 miles.

Did you install the sway bar yourself? Seems pretty straightforward from the instructions on their website... 

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2019 Sierra Elevation 4x4.

Have a levelling kit and LT275/65R20 BF Goodrich KO2 tires set at 42 PSI.

My truck also has the Max Trailering/NHT option with stock shocks.

I definitely get a lot of bounce or “bunny hoping when going over bumps like the back end bounces sideways.

My last truck 07 Silverado Z71 didn’t do this.

I find it annoying for sure at times and my wife really notices it while in the truck.

 

We did a camping trip a pulled our 24’ trailer and it towed beautifully.  No bouncing once loaded but when driving the truck down a dirt road without the trailer there was quite a bit of bouncing around!

I guess having high payload and towing capacity comes at a cost!

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Dunn Senior Enthusiast

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they dont spend alot of money or time on stock suspension....its one of many parts that have to meet a pricepoint and still work.....so any reputuable shock should be better than OEM....

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I added a double leaf set of Supersprings to my truck and so the wheel hop was quite noticeable when hitting a pothole or rut or expansion joint on an overpass. What fixed the problem was adding a Hellwig Big Wig rear anti sway bar to the rear axle. Anti sway bars will cause a road shock at one wheel to be transmitted to the opposite wheel which is usually viewed as a negative aspect of their use but on a truck it means that a good portion of the shock from the wheel hitting the pothole is shared by the opposite wheel.

 

I added the Big Wig in an effort to reduce roll with a 3700 lb camper in the bed and for this it made no improvement. Later when I had the camper off the truck and the bed more or less empty other than the weight of a fiberglass cap I soon noticed the improved ride. Not cheap at $450 but it took only an hour of my time to attach it and did so with the truck's wheels on the ground. I now consider a rear anti-sway bar as a must have on my pickups.

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