Your replacements have arrived

flyingfool · December 31, 2020

Here's a harbinger and if not a game changer for the future of our children's economic, future employment and millitary status in America, if not the entire world.. i can see a lot of Blue collar jobs evaporating, meanwhile public schools have no answer to meet the coming job demands of the future., White collar will soon be replaced with Ai.

Anyone else wondering, where are we going with all this?

Edited December 31, 2020 by flyingfool

newdude · January 2, 2021

Meh. I see these as a tool to assist humans rather than replace. I should clarify, their Spot robot and maybe that goofy looking one on wheels.

We all ready have a TON of automation in the world yet still employ loads of people.

On a counter point to that...quite a lot of people don't want to work. Or, they want $20/hr and 40 hour work weeks to take orders at McDonalds. They have no work ethic, no drive to succeed and get somewhere in life. They just want without any input. Leech off the system. The problem? You will get $20 maybe, but you will only get 10-15hr a week. No benefits, nothing.

AI and automation are a result of this. Take a look at Miso Robotics for example (Miso Robotics | The Future of Food is Here). They have developed the ultimate fast food kitchen employee. No whining, no complaining, no tardiness, low operational costs because no health care or pay, no smoke breaks, nothing. It just performs with almost no hitches.

Edited January 2, 2021 by newdude

Grumpy Bear · January 2, 2021

Not a huge fan of blanket statements or unqualified statistics. Not everyone that works at minimum wage jobs is a slacker taking advantage of 'the system'. Not everyone that works for $40 an hour has exceptional work ethic. I made pretty good money most of my working life, minimum wage at times an found as many low life minimum effort types at one wage as the other. We live in a small town now with one fast food. A Micky D's. They employ many of the otherwise unemployables this town has. Do they (Micky) take advantage? Sure. Are there some slackers. Yea. But most of those employed here are those to old to earn a livable wage and rock steady employees. A good number of younger handicapped or physically unable to pass a physical at a box store. The boy that has been taking my order for nearly 10 years doesn't take breaks, doesn't smoke, never takes a sick day and works as many hours as they will allow. As far as I can tell there is nothing wrong with this young man other than his incredible tolerance for taking abuse. Is that a flaw? Maybe. They give this boy the jobs a robot would refuse.

KARNUT · January 2, 2021

Meh. I see these as a tool to assist humans rather than replace. I should clarify, their Spot robot and maybe that goofy looking one on wheels.

We all ready have a TON of automation in the world yet still employ loads of people.

On a counter point to that...quite a lot of people don't want to work. Or, they want $20/hr and 40 hour work weeks to take orders at McDonalds. They have no work ethic, no drive to succeed and get somewhere in life. They just want without any input. Leech off the system. The problem? You will get $20 maybe, but you will only get 10-15hr a week. No benefits, nothing.

AI and automation are a result of this. Take a look at Miso Robotics for example (Miso Robotics | The Future of Food is Here). They have developed the ultimate fast food kitchen employee. No whining, no complaining, no tardiness, low operational costs because no health care or pay, no smoke breaks, nothing. It just performs with almost no hitches.

When I was young I worked on a farm bailing hay. Later a chicken farm. Got my license work at a gas station. Finally after a few months for my father’s company. Out boredom and wanting to be independent I was so happy to be able to work. Never had to worry about the amount of pay. I always made myself more valuable and got max pay. After moving to Texas I got a job as a relief driver for a refuse company. Six months later I became general manager. Making more money then I ever made. 18 months later I started my own refuse co. Two years later sold it and bought into the new family business. At 58 I retired from that very successful business. I never asked for a raise, it was gladly given. People nowadays feel entitled money for work. Instead of working for money. Given the opportunity I use self check out. I rather interact with a robot. I’m tired of dealing with the sour looking self untitled people today. No wonder places like Amazon are so popular. It ain’t because of covid. Even places like this website. People are willing to give up free living, marching to the will of their governor out fear. The biggest change I’ve seen in my lifetime is self reliance for cheap guaranties. Send in the robots.

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Grumpy Bear · January 2, 2021

Robotics have their place. Machines have a place and tools have theirs. Hearts hands and minds have a place as well. We use a tool to tighten a bolt whose requirement of torque is beyond our ability. Some form of drill to cut the hole. It adapted to become a machine to allow precision. A robot to relieve us of repetitive tasks whose repetitive nature would do us harm over time or to relieve us from a harmful environment is good. When the purpose for the device exceeds it's assignment in aiding man to excel unharmed and ventures into an assignment that harms man for profit.........................

Advancement...good. Greed....bad.

Not even a machine should exceed it's authority.

It's ability to do so or not remains mans.

Bash74 · January 2, 2021

All I can say is there are around millions of jobs that are not and cannot be filled because people don't have the skills or trained. This is not because they can't get the skills or trained. It's because they dont want to. They just want to stay stagnant, but complain about what they are worth when they don't get what they want.

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garagerog · January 2, 2021

To me those human looking robots are creepy and a bit scary, maybe I watched to many Terminator movies. My wife often comments that she will only use self-checkout when the big box store sends her a W-2 for doing their job. I only use self-checkout when I only have an item or two and the regular checkout has a long line. I have yet to see a store giving a discount for using self-checkout, so I'd rather try and help keep someone employed, especially during these trying times.

flyingfool · January 3, 2021

21 hours ago, garagerog said:

To me those human looking robots are creepy and a bit scary, maybe I watched to many Terminator movies.

the human versions would make great soldiers for what ever war is coming next. they get in there, do the dirty nasty stuff that fills every soldiers head with PTSD. They dont talk about what they've done or write books about it 20 years after, They cant be tracked, easily dismantled/wiped used for repair parts for other units, can operate for days on end as long as there is a charger nearby and no trace back to an operation that was succesful or a failure. great for enforcing the next wave of marshall law in this country. too. the ultimate gov. servant. I think we all know what coming down the pipe line for us, it's in the back of every ones' mind. Elon Musk is waiting patiently on the sidelines to ship us off to Mars and have the place to himself.

Edited January 3, 2021 by flyingfool

flyingfool · January 3, 2021

On 1/2/2021 at 8:35 AM, newdude said:

Meh. I see these as a tool to assist humans rather than replace. I should clarify, their Spot robot and maybe that goofy looking one on wheels.

We all ready have a TON of automation in the world yet still employ loads of people.

On a counter point to that...quite a lot of people don't want to work. Or, they want $20/hr and 40 hour work weeks to take orders at McDonalds. They have no work ethic, no drive to succeed and get somewhere in life. They just want without any input. Leech off the system. The problem? You will get $20 maybe, but you will only get 10-15hr a week. No benefits, nothing.

AI and automation are a result of this. Take a look at Miso Robotics for example (Miso Robotics | The Future of Food is Here). They have developed the ultimate fast food kitchen employee. No whining, no complaining, no tardiness, low operational costs because no health care or pay, no smoke breaks, nothing. It just performs with almost no hitches.

Well now after CV-19 i think they will become less of a tool and more employable and useful vs .the human employee, so much less to deal with. Automation is mostly manufactuering, but moving into the service sector is the big money and largest hit to humans.

For years, here in LA we have to deal with Insurance and health care as employers, this is a huge cost.. the locals are always trying to file a claim by getting themselves injured on purpose and not following safety rules all the time. then there's, showing up under the influence or tired. , then the last straw ID theft of customers personal files or customers' CC's and Check hacking. the Pros vs cons for automation of basic laybor activities is growing stronger everyday towards robotics with cleanlyness and hygene improvements

Edited January 3, 2021 by flyingfool

The Zip · January 3, 2021

2 hours ago, flyingfool said:

the human versions would make great soldiers for what ever war is coming next. they get in there, do the dirty nasty stuff that fills every soldiers head with PTSD.

Any technology that has the capability of doing grunt work for the troops is good, keeps them fresh. Wish AI was around when I was digging foxholes. Determining what's hostile or not is another story. If AI gets to that point, it better be equipped with a self-destruct button.

Bash74 · January 4, 2021

Any technology that has the capability of doing grunt work for the troops is good, keeps them fresh. Wish AI was around when I was digging foxholes. Determining what's hostile or not is another story. If AI gets to that point, it better be equipped with a self-destruct button.

Thats all the fun being taken away.

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Bash74 · January 4, 2021

the human versions would make great soldiers for what ever war is coming next. they get in there, do the dirty nasty stuff that fills every soldiers head with PTSD. They dont talk about what they've done or write books about it 20 years after, They cant be tracked, easily dismantled/wiped used for repair parts for other units, can operate for days on end as long as there is a charger nearby and no trace back to an operation that was succesful or a failure. great for enforcing the next wave of marshall law in this country. too. the ultimate gov. servant. I think we all know what coming down the pipe line for us, it's in the back of every ones' mind. Elon Musk is waiting patiently on the sidelines to ship us off to Mars and have the place to himself.

Some of us dont mind the dirty nasty stuff. I also wouldn't say every soldiers head. It's a job and known when deciding to raise the right hand.

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flyingfool · January 4, 2021

18 hours ago, The Zip said:

Any technology that has the capability of doing grunt work for the troops is good, keeps them fresh. Wish AI was around when I was digging foxholes. Determining what's hostile or not is another story. If AI gets to that point, it better be equipped with a self-destruct button.

no reason for human troops to be fresh anymore, you seem to think your needed,. the only human left on the battle field will be mechanics and he's on shaky ground too

Edited January 4, 2021 by flyingfool

diyer2 · January 4, 2021

There are so many things a robot can't do and it will be years before they can.

Grumpy Bear · January 4, 2021

33 minutes ago, flyingfool said:

no reason for human troops to be fresh anymore, you seem to think your needed,. the only human left on the battle field will be mechanics and he's on shaky ground too

Will SKYNET be running the place?