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Here in Alberta we pay a tax per liter of gas that goes for Hwy maintenance and construction. Govt is going to have to figure out a way to get that tax from everyone with electrics!

 

Also at our local malls and such there are free charging stations. How much longer will those be free? 

 

Last winter a friend drove his Tesla to Arizona. I drove there in two days in my Tahoe. It took him 3 1/2 days because of charging! They have to figure out a way to charge the electric's faster. People in California with hydrogen cars say that is what they like about there car. They can fill up like a regular gas car and be on their way. 

At three times the cost/mile!

Before taxes ? 

Bring back the horse!!

Hi-Yo Silver...Away!!

 

Meanwhile back at the ranch... 

Tonto not knowing the Lone Ranger had disguised himself as a pool table....

racked the balls!

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They want all these EV's but guess where all the stuff to get the batteries are, underground........   Bunch of stupid paper pushers that only do things because of their agenda. The US will

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They’ll probably be OK with all the new ROWs they’ll need to put transmission lines in for all the new electric power they’ll need. Opposed to buried pipelines that all you see is grass. Talk about an

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That's a fact with the new administration we now have.

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Here in Alberta we pay a tax per liter of gas that goes for Hwy maintenance and construction. Govt is going to have to figure out a way to get that tax from everyone with electrics!

 

Also at our local malls and such there are free charging stations. How much longer will those be free? 

 

Last winter a friend drove his Tesla to Arizona. I drove there in two days in my Tahoe. It took him 3 1/2 days because of charging! They have to figure out a way to charge the electric's faster. People in California with hydrogen cars say that is what they like about there car. They can fill up like a regular gas car and be on their way. 

I'm in San Diego. My son plays travel baseball. Due to state restrictions we've been going to Arizona monthly for tournaments. Yuma, Phoenix, Lake Havasu, etc. One of my son's teammates rolls to practice in their parents Tesla. When we go to Arizona they borrow a family member's Yukon. Lake Havasu is 300 miles, and they don't believe their Tesla will make the trip due to the mountains. People aren't going to buy HD trucks because their electric car won't make a trip. They'll just buy another brand.

 

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On 1/31/2021 at 10:03 PM, Chet said:

If we can terraform the planet by human action (assuming it's possible), we can buy ourselves perhaps another 500 million years of habitation. It's actually a very convenient truth, if true. 

1/2 of all earth animal species lives in the tropical forest and tropical forest have been reduced to but 7% of the earths surface. 50% +  of the earths oxygen comes from ocean plankton and currently about 28% comes from the rainforest. For the recorded 6,000 years of human history, man has continued to move in the wrong direction and at an increased pace. Destroying rain forest and polluting oceans. In the last 200 years rainforest have declined from 15-20% to 7% and oil palm and grazing/farming taking that land. 30% of the earths land based oxygen cycle has been destroyed. 200 years ago earth population was 1 billion...less than 1/7 todays numbers. 

 

IF...by human action.....?

 

Looks like MAN is about to remove the 14% contribution of transportation to the  21% in power generation. 

And ignore the Oxygen cycle altogether.

 

 Image result for methane makes up what % of earth's greenhouse gasses

 

Jeremiah 10:23 - "...It does not belong to man who is walking even to direct his step."

KARNUT Senior Enthusiast

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Humans are not a problem.  It's okay to be human.  

So far the new guys in charge are working on decimating the home grown oil exploration and transportation. Using climate change as the reason. Opening the door for less clean alternatives that will kick in. On the other hand. They want to pay people incentives to have more kids. Increasing the population. Worried that our population is dropping. Meanwhile opening our borders up again. Never mind covid or high unemployment. There is no sense with these people. Man made climate change. No pollution maybe that more sense.


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I'm in San Diego. My son plays travel baseball. Due to state restrictions we've been going to Arizona monthly for tournaments. Yuma, Phoenix, Lake Havasu, etc. One of my son's teammates rolls to practice in their parents Tesla. When we go to Arizona they borrow a family member's Yukon. Lake Havasu is 300 miles, and they don't believe their Tesla will make the trip due to the mountains. People aren't going to buy HD trucks because their electric car won't make a trip. They'll just buy another brand.  
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Wish we had your weather we started out season a few weeks ago. Only indoor practices for now until the snow leaves and it warms up. Does your son play year round?


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Wish we had your weather we started out season a few weeks ago. Only indoor practices for now until the snow leaves and it warms up. Does your son play year round?


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Our season never stops. It's year round. Maybe that's why my son's team has produced many pro players, such as Bryce Harper.

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So far the new guys in charge are working on decimating the home grown oil exploration and transportation. Using climate change as the reason. Opening the door for less clean alternatives that will kick in. On the other hand. They want to pay people incentives to have more kids. Increasing the population. Worried that our population is dropping. Meanwhile opening our borders up again. Never mind covid or high unemployment. There is no sense with these people. Man made climate change. No pollution maybe that more sense.


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The shrinking population creates another man-made problem, thus why the swamp is taking the actions they are. In order for social security, etc to be sustained we need a birth:death ratio of 2.1:1. Last I checked we're at 1.7:1. I have no faith in government, and don't expect social security to be around when it's my time to retire. What they're doing wreaks of desperation.

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Our season never stops. It's year round. Maybe that's why my son's team has produced many pro players, such as Bryce Harper.

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Awesome I hope my son sticks with it. Two of his pitching coaches the last two years have had good things to say about his mechanics (1 college pitcher whose catcher in HS was tucker barnhart and a current cubs minor leaguer.) and he is only 11 (LH). Maybe one day he can buy me an electric truck [emoji16] he owes me for the dent he put in the last truck [emoji23]


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The shrinking population creates another man-made problem, thus why the swamp is taking the actions they are. In order for social security, etc to be sustained we need a birth:death ratio of 2.1:1. Last I checked we're at 1.7:1. I have no faith in government, and don't expect social security to be around when it's my time to retire. What they're doing wreaks of desperation.

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Not to totally go sideways. How about enhancing legal immigration. Put the money there. Nothing is more exciting than watching people who really appreciate the opportunity’s in this country. It’s was amazing when I was teaching people to operate our equipment. The difference between the entitled, spoiled, lazy multi generational natives. Who really didn’t want to work. Compared to let’s say the more recent residents in our country. The desire to excel and learn was intoxicating. That’s where I’d spend the money. Legal immigration.


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Not to totally go sideways. How about enhancing legal immigration. Put the money there. Nothing is more exciting than watching people who really appreciate the opportunity’s in this country. It’s was amazing when I was teaching people to operate our equipment. The difference between the entitled, spoiled, lazy multi generational natives. Who really didn’t want to work. Compared to let’s say the more recent residents in our country. The desire to excel and learn was intoxicating. That’s where I’d spend the money. Legal immigration.


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Agreed. 5 years to just get approval to come to this country is too long. Then they have to go through the process of becoming residents.

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Awesome I hope my son sticks with it. Two of his pitching coaches the last two years have had good things to say about his mechanics (1 college pitcher whose catcher in HS was tucker barnhart and a current cubs minor leaguer.) and he is only 11 (LH). Maybe one day he can buy me an electric truck [emoji16] he owes me for the dent he put in the last truck [emoji23]


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Being a lefty, your son has better odds of getting you that electric truck.

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On 2/1/2021 at 8:38 PM, Chet said:

Humans are not a problem.  It's okay to be human.  

 

 

Humans are the ONLY problem, take humans off the Earth, and it would heal back to a natural state. Not this chemically polluted thing that we have made.

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Humans are the ONLY problem, take humans off the Earth, and it would heal back to a natural state. Not this chemically polluted thing that we have made.
Is this the moment where Agent Smith in The Matrix is absolutely curvy when he begins his interrogation of Morpheus? Is it life depicting at, or the other way around? I completely agree with you. To earth, we're worse than locusts and cockroaches.

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On 2/7/2021 at 6:23 AM, gearheadesw said:

 

 

Humans are the ONLY problem, take humans off the Earth, and it would heal back to a natural state. Not this chemically polluted thing that we have made.

Tell that to the dinosaurs.

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Species were already going extinct before the humans anyway! And we have humans making other humans extinct. The Brits are the only people who committed true genocide by wiping out an entire race.. the Tasmanian Aborigines.

 

I hardly drive and would not mind one if they find a way for me to use solar panels that adds 10 miles every day.

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