Leaked new EV Silverado

Transient · January 6, 2022

10 hours ago, Glashaus said:

I am on my 4th Silverado and if this is the future of Silverado’s then I will be holding onto my 2015 2500 HD for a long time

It's the future of 1500s and smaller. GM has already said they're keeping the 2500 HD and bigger trucks with ICE.

Transient · January 6, 2022

6 hours ago, TNTSilverado said:

I agree. Especially if we get “someone else” in office in a few years that can get us back to the way it was when we made our own oil here in the d@mn U.S.A and didn’t need to depend on foreign oil! I miss $1.87 ️ her in Iowa.

I just don’t see how “normal joes” can afford a $100k vehicle. I mean it’s possible but who wants a $1500 truck payment for an electric truck. That $100k is almost more than my fully loaded high country Silverado and the wife’s new redline premier edition Traverse. Plain stupid in my opinion. And to top that, you have to wait 3-4 hours for it to fully charge. So on my way to the hills, I can stop to charge it, get out Netflix on my phone and watch almost 2 movies!!! Instead of filling a nice burly V8 with premium fuel that takes 5 minutes and be on my way!!! Sounds so much fun doesn’t it!?!

You might want to check those numbers again. Trump got us to the point of exporting more oil than we import, but that's about to change under the Biden Admin. However, I wouldn't be surprised if COVID played a factor in this, too.

Transient · January 6, 2022

Here's a question I've been pondering today. So far the Hummer EV produces over 1,000 bhp and 11,5000 btq. The new Silverado EV produces 664 bhp. I didn't get the torque number for it. Iirc, the new Silverado EV produces 8 more bhp than a current production Camaro ZL1. If you have a kid that's about to turn 16 and you buy them a car, would you get them a Camaro ZL1? Not only is my answer, "Hell No!", but I'd go a step further and even say I wouldn't get them my truck (Trail Boss LT w/ 6.2). I want that kid on training wheels, via a gutless turd of a car that couldn't get out of its own way. Being in Southern California I know lots of people with Teslas. I've had my butt whooped by a Tesla Model 3 and a Tesla Model Y Dual Motor from so lights to speed limit. They are surprised I keep it as close as I do, but they always win. There is no way I'm giving a brand new driver the keys to an EV. The performance of those things is like giving them the keys to a ZL1, and we all can speculate how that will turn out.

KARNUT · January 6, 2022

Well it wasn’t a ZL1, it was a Z-28. It’s like anything else you teach them to respect the vehicles performance. My kids grew up with performance vehicles. It’s the same with guns. Plus I told them get a speeding ticket you walk. Deterrence works too. It was his mother’s car. 3 years no ticket, better than his mother. His reward a new Camaro for college.

Glashaus · January 6, 2022

2 hours ago, Transient said:

It's the future of 1500s and smaller. GM has already said they're keeping the 2500 HD and bigger trucks with ICE.

Well that is good to know. I guess that in the future a lot of us will be driving around in 3/4 and 1 tons. I still think that I will keep my 2015 2500 for awhile. It is paid off , only has 72,000 miles on it and I have done the mods to it make it more useful to me

TNTSierra · January 6, 2022

3 hours ago, Transient said:

You might want to check those numbers again. Trump got us to the point of exporting more oil than we import, but that's about to change under the Biden Admin. However, I wouldn't be surprised if COVID played a factor in this, too.

That was my point!!! We were dependent on ourselves. We made it here. That’s why it was so cheap! FJB…closed down the North Dakota pipeline here in Midwest and over 50 thousand people lost there d@mn jobs!!!

After sleeping on it, and now drinking some coffee and really diving down at the 120 pics of the EV. It’s more sleek and elegant looking than I thought. Yea it has a little bit of the trailblazer/blazer front end and headlights, but the rest do the truck is very streamlined. I’m still not a fan of the buttons on the bottom of the screen. They just look at out place. The dash is amazing looking in my opinion. And yes, the Corvette steering wheel is a nice touch.

econometrics · January 6, 2022

I think they did a good job with the EV Silverado style. It was bold of them to really shift the design on this, whereas the Ford Lightning looks way too much like a normal F-150, IMO. I think people forking over $100K for an EV are more open to aggressive styling, so I think GM is ahead of Ford on this already.

I don't like the 24" wheels they have on this production model, but I'm sure they'll give some other options for those by the time these hit the streets in 2024 (Lol).

$105K is really the kicker here. But, then again, the TRX gets close to that... and the EV Silverado has just as much (if not more) performance and far better tech.

I also think this Ultifi platform is a major game changer. If GM can really execute that... wow.

JimCost2014 · January 6, 2022

5 hours ago, Transient said:

Hope the vehicle in front of you is T1 truck with a plug in the bed, lol

Soon, you will probaly see a variety pack of adaptors at convenience stores like you do now for cell phones.

Just go look at the port on the Prius, find the right adapter, and you are back on the road in your EV Silerado. Sure, there is a chance something really bad might happen while trying to attempt this, but we will not know wntil someone attempts it

JimCost2014 · January 6, 2022

5 hours ago, Transient said:

A company in Michigan called ONE may be able to help here. I read an article tonight about how they took a Tesla car that had a max range of 320 miles, swapped out only the battery for one of their own, drove the car up and down Michigan without recharging, and accretive 752.2 miles total. They then recharged the battery and placed the car on a dyno and cruised at 55mph until the battery drained and got 820 miles. They aren't double stacking batteries like GM is. It's just a new battery, and apparently it's more eco-friendly and not as prone to be affected by weather (heat/cold) as the current batteries are. This was just a proof of concept test, and there's things they're still working on, but with this and solid state batteries, the future for EVs is right around the corner. I said I'd buy one if the range exceeded 700 miles. Looks like that'll be happened sooner than I thought.

Doc Brown would be proud. Wonder how far into the future they could go at 88 MPH on the dyno?

shakenfake · January 6, 2022

I like the interior of the EV. The vents could be a bit larger and the screen could be more center rather than facing the driver. HVAC buttons is a must. I hate a full digital view.

redwngr · January 6, 2022

Should look up the worlds largest oil producers...

KARNUT · January 6, 2022

Small batteries with a 300 mile range that could be changed out quickly. Instead of charging stations, changing stations. Self service and full service.

econometrics · January 6, 2022

1 minute ago, KARNUT said:

Small batteries with a 300 mile range that could be changed out quickly. Instead of charging stations, changing stations. Self service and full service.

See: Better Place

That framework was quickly discarded. Tesla tried it in California, too, and basically no one really used it.

GM is on the right track with Ultium. Adding 100 miles of range in 10min with a 350kw on-board charger is very impressive.

The biggest issue, as you bring up, KARNUT, is the infrastructure. It's just not there yet AT ALL nationwide. We have a Pacifica Hybrid and it's almost useless to consider charging it outside of our home right now. There are so few options.

By the time the Silverado EV hits the streets in 2024, I think DC charging stations will be more numerous, but I would not make a full EV truck my main method of transportation until later 2020's, IMO. It will easily take that long for the US to get build out a reliable network of fast-charging access points.

KARNUT · January 6, 2022

6 minutes ago, econometrics said:

See: Better Place

That framework was quickly discarded. Tesla tried it in California, too, and basically no one really used it.

GM is on the right track with Ultium. Adding 100 miles of range in 10min with a 350kw on-board charger is very impressive.

The biggest issue, as you bring up, KARNUT, is the infrastructure. It's just not there yet AT ALL nationwide. We have a Pacifica Hybrid and it's almost useless to consider charging it outside of our home right now. There are so few options.

By the time the Silverado EV hits the streets in 2024, I think DC charging stations will be more numerous, but I would not make a full EV truck my main method of transportation until later 2020's, IMO. It will easily take that long for the US to get build out a reliable network of fast-charging access points.

I think battery size will be the trick. Unless they change the electric grid this can only go so far. I remember my first mobile phone. Anything is possible.

Transient · January 6, 2022

2 hours ago, KARNUT said:

Small batteries with a 300 mile range that could be changed out quickly. Instead of charging stations, changing stations. Self service and full service.

Like propane bottles?