lifter failure Please vote

[JimCost2014]

1 hour ago, Saso said:

I am not GM hater, please don put a label on me, I'm just concerned customer is all. the rumor out there is sold 10% of gm v8 engines have lifter problems some as early as 24 miles on the clock most under 15k miles that is a massive number, if that is true im am shocked that GM is totally ignoring this problem .

Then why are you/did buy one? Just curious as why someone who is so worried would make a financial commitment with something they don't even trust.

 

I noticed on one of your other posts you stated that you also had a 2022 F150 on order? Buying both?

 

Different set up, but zero issues with the 6.2 in my 18. Great engine!

[Shall36]

GM is not ignoring the problem, but I honestly think they aren’t sure what to do.  Also, I think supply chain issues are limiting what they can do. I suspect the real fail rate is low enough that they will just swallow repairs as they come. Keep in mind the scale here….there’s a bunch of these motors out there so even a small fail rate translates

into a lot of failures. That said, acceptable defect rates for other manufactured goods are much lower than what GM is willing to do. RAM had a similar problem early on with MDS but I think they finally got that solved. The concept of DoD is good but I’m not sure anyone has a good system in practice. 
 

What’s the best, most reliable DoD system out there?

[Big_Kahuna]

10 hours ago, JimCost2014 said:

Then why are you/did buy one? Just curious as why someone who is so worried would make a financial commitment with something they don't even trust.

 

I noticed on one of your other posts you stated that you also had a 2022 F150 on order? Buying both?

 

Different set up, but zero issues with the 6.2 in my 18. Great engine!

So why is this forum exists? For people like me to ask questions or people like you to attack people who ask questions? Last I check this is still capitalist United States of America and first amendment is freedom of speech? I should be able to ask what ever I want, if you don’t like my question move on don’t reply… good day sir.

[diyer2]

Lets go Brandon, go somewhere else. You won't be missed.

[Silverado4x4]

Ford starting to have the same problem with their 2.7l, read on. Dozens of Low-Mile 2.7L Ford Bronco Engines Have Already Failed (msn.com)

[ScathaTheWorm]

On 4/15/2022 at 5:54 PM, Anon12345 said:

 

Report back when your tranny starts slipping when you try hauling something and your tires keep screeching due to the tranny slippage and you are barely going anywhere.  First hand experience with this with dodge and their gassers just trying to haul a car. 

 

Also. You do know dodge is suffering the exact same lifter issue in all of their v8's right?  Whats that tell you?  Its NOT a GM issue, but a supplier issue.  

The ZF 8 speed in the RAM is better than most GM transmissions, I would admit.

[ScathaTheWorm]

On 4/15/2022 at 6:08 PM, KARNUT said:

Researching a vehicle is like watching the news. You have to watch several different forums.

Forums are not a good representation of reliability. If you do not trust me , well suit yourself.

[ScathaTheWorm]

On 4/30/2022 at 4:40 AM, Big_Kahuna said:

I am not GM hater, please don put a label on me, I'm just concerned customer is all. the rumor out there is sold 10% of gm v8 engines have lifter problems some as early as 24 miles on the clock most under 15k miles that is a massive number, if that is true im am shocked that GM is totally ignoring this problem .

They are not ignoring the issue. The problem is that 2021 genuinely had bad parts, and even then it was not serious. 

[ScathaTheWorm]

On 4/30/2022 at 2:00 PM, Shall36 said:

GM is not ignoring the problem, but I honestly think they aren’t sure what to do.  Also, I think supply chain issues are limiting what they can do. I suspect the real fail rate is low enough that they will just swallow repairs as they come. Keep in mind the scale here….there’s a bunch of these motors out there so even a small fail rate translates

into a lot of failures. That said, acceptable defect rates for other manufactured goods are much lower than what GM is willing to do. RAM had a similar problem early on with MDS but I think they finally got that solved. The concept of DoD is good but I’m not sure anyone has a good system in practice. 
 

What’s the best, most reliable DoD system out there?

RAM/s MDS has similar problems. Toyota 5.7Ls have valve spring problems and cam tower leaks (big repair bills).

[KARNUT]

4 hours ago, ScathaTheWorm said:

RAM/s MDS has similar problems. Toyota 5.7Ls have valve spring problems and cam tower leaks (big repair bills).

This a very old thread. GM has made attempts to fix their problem. Everyone has problems. As for Ram they definitely made a change.

[ScathaTheWorm]

35 minutes ago, KARNUT said:

This a very old thread. GM has made attempts to fix their problem. Everyone has problems. As for Ram they definitely made a change.

RAM still has MDS issues after 2016. You can check their forums.  

[KARNUT]

1 hour ago, ScathaTheWorm said:

RAM still has MDS issues after 2016. You can check their forums.  

I don’t need to. My company has several including a TRX. My brother drives a Ford Super Snake truck. My nephew and lead salesman drive new Raptors. Our service trucks are different brands from one tons to F-450s. My second brother runs 19 ROW crews on pipelines with mostly Fords gas and diesel. There’s a few Rams GMs. Even though I’m retired from the family business I still stay plugged in at my leisure. I prefer my old Avalanche. But I keep up with the latest and greatest. As an ex fleet buyer it’s in my blood. I’m not claiming to be all knowledgeable but I’m close.