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so my truck went from silent to lifter tap to silent again , like I said on few other oil post , I have try almost every popular high quality oils over the years, I have come across this valvoline oil I did some research and looked good from the additive prospective so I decide to try it I'm my hemi ram, first impression was good I took the truck for a ride and run great and smooth, but after the first cold start I heard the lifter tap on start up for few sec, I though nothing of it until I fire it up again and then tap was there again and again and again for a month until I said F%#@ this S%@t and I dump the oil, went back to pennzoil platinum and the hemi was purring like a kitten again the tap is completely gone just like it was B4 valvoline, im not suggesting that the valvoline is a bad oil but I just wanted to share my experience with it, I do not know why my hemi was having slight lifter tap on start up using valvoline oil. I will continue to use pennzoil in my new GMC 6.2 I hope the chevy will respond as good as my hemi with that oil, I do think that pennzoil make one of the best quality oil on the market right now.

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I still stand by my comment made in my thread Castrol Edge VS Amsoil OE.  Amsoil OE is better oil than off the shelf oil, MY OPINION. I was never a boutique oil guy until I tried Amsoil products

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so my truck went from silent to lifter tap to silent again , like I said on few other oil post , I have try almost every popular high quality oils over the years, I have come across this valvoline oil

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Why do you think some oils are cheaper? Where do you think they cut the corners? Did they use cheaper oil base stocks and additive packages? Did they cut back on quality control? How can they afford t

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Redline is pretty much the ultimate silencer for Hemis. When using the factory spec Pennzoil Ultra Platinum it would get pretty ticky shortly into the OCI. Redline just stays quiet. Plus it’s pretty much the finest oil money can buy, and a true, actual synthetic.

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57 minutes ago, OnTheReel said:

Redline is pretty much the ultimate silencer for Hemis. When using the factory spec Pennzoil Ultra Platinum it would get pretty ticky shortly into the OCI. Redline just stays quiet. Plus it’s pretty much the finest oil money can buy, and a true, actual synthetic.

I have use redline and sure is great oil, but my experience with pennzoil is just as great for the friction of the price , no tick not a tap on start up.

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Why do you think some oils are cheaper? Where do you think they cut the corners? Did they use cheaper oil base stocks and additive packages? Did they cut back on quality control? How can they afford to spends millions of $$ on advertising and still make money if they claim their oil is best?

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3 minutes ago, elcamino said:

Why do you think some oils are cheaper? Where do you think they cut the corners? Did they use cheaper oil base stocks and additive packages? Did they cut back on quality control? How can they afford to spends millions of $$ on advertising and still make money if they claim their oil is best?
 

all I can say is the oil is working great for me. that hemi is happier than pig eating ****** running pennzoil. 

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Pennzoil just as great as Redline, I don't think so. 

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14 hours ago, FJB said:

I have use redline and sure is great oil, but my experience with pennzoil is just as great for the friction of the price , no tick not a tap on start up.

The VOAs I had done would tend to disagree. The Redline on it’s face is a much more robust oil. Both in additive and base oil composition. Note these are comparing Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 0w40 to Redline HP 0w40. Not the regular Pennzoil Platinum. But yes, you sure do have to pay for it.PENNZOIL ULT PLAT-211019.pdfRED LINE 0W40-211019.pdf

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11 minutes ago, OnTheReel said:

The VOAs I had done would tend to disagree. The Redline on it’s face is a much more robust oil. Both in additive and base oil composition. Note these are comparing Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 0w40 to Redline HP 0w40. Not the regular Pennzoil Platinum. But yes, you sure do have to pay for it.PENNZOIL ULT PLAT-211019.pdfRED LINE 0W40-211019.pdf

I know redline is a great oil I have use it b4, but the truck is very happy running pennzoil, I have use this oil for many year and will continue to use it in my new AT4, any blackstone test I have see returned great results.

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I can't think of a single reason why 'lifter tick' would happen with one oil and not the other. Both oils are in the same viscosity range and grade. 🤔

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18 minutes ago, Grumpy Bear said:

I can't think of a single reason why 'lifter tick' would happen with one oil and not the other. Both oils are in the same viscosity range and grade. 🤔

In my case the Redline cST @ 100 is 14.72 vs 12.76 on the PUP. Could it be a similar (albeit small) difference between OP’s Pennzoil and Valvoline accounting for the increased noise? Or different coefficient of friction?

 

I don’t know but there are too many reports of this being the case to not think there is something going on.

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1 hour ago, FJB said:

to bad redline is not dexos approved .

The HP is not even API certified, let alone Dexos. Professional Series meets both though. I tend to worry more about the protection and not a license. 
 

Anyway, sorry about the Redline diversion, just wanted to make note that it was the quietest oil I’ve run and most people agree when they try it.

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1 hour ago, Grumpy Bear said:

I can't think of a single reason why 'lifter tick' would happen with one oil and not the other. Both oils are in the same viscosity range and grade. 🤔

I do not know, the reason I went to try valvoline because I see a blackstone and moly was way higher than the pennzoil , but to my surprise every time I shot down my truck and let it cool down the lifters would be bleed out and they would tick until pressures again, the pennzoil never ever one did that b4 .

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A license is a revenue stream.

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