Full sized EV pickup

KARNUT · September 3, 2022

11 minutes ago, Donstar said:

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Perhaps, but tourists from California are a common sight and it's a beautiful drive. I wouldn't hesitate to take a Tesla on a long road trip. Of course, every vehicle has to arrive by ferry to Vancouver Island so it would've been shipped part of the way!

It can be done. Much like the RV world there’s probably clubs that you can join for the best way to travel. I believe in Teslas case the car itself will direct you to the next charging station. If I was going to be adventurous I would choose an electric pickup. I would have a generator in the bed for emergency charging.

Donstar · September 3, 2022

You know there is a ton of information supporting and not supporting man's impact on our environment. I wish everyone to err on the side of caution in case we are irreparably influencing a "natural cycle". I believe we're doing horrible things to our environment (me included) and I continue to learn and improve. My brother lives a couple hour away from me so I've only received emails regarding his new Lightening. His first observation was, "It is definitely a F150". His second comment was about the incredible acceleration. He lives and works in very busy urban environment and truly appreciates a responsive vehicle. He has a couple of antique vehicles and enjoys driving a slow car fast when he has the time!

garagerog · September 3, 2022

Regarding California Teslas seen in other states and provinces, not surprising as California doesn't have enough electricity now to power their current EV fleet, let alone after 2035 when they're all in on EV. And they won't be able to rely on Washington states hydropower either as they're going down the same primrose path. Seems like California's only plan to deal with their electricity shortage is to expatriate enough of their citizens by making life so intolerable there that only those rich enough to remain there comfortably can lecture and look down their noses at the proletariat.

KARNUT · September 3, 2022

It’s a balance in regards to pollution. We’ve come a long way in reversing pollution. We’re not ready to go full electric. In fact we’re a long way off. The battery technology needs to change. It’s a dirty polluting process and destructive to the environment to mine. I’ve been around coal strip mining. Battery mineral mining is much worse. Toyota is leaning hydrogen versus electric. They nailed the hybrid. There’re may be something there. Instead of killing petroleum and forcing electric. Concentrate on building a better alternative without killing our economy. Slow down the mandates. How about home solar panels instead of fields of solar panels? Windmills are ridiculous. It’s seems common sense left the building. What we have left is high gas prices, inflation and a possibility of a recession. Warning signs anyone. Would I buy electric? When it makes sense to me. That’s how it’s supposed to work. Right now it doesn’t go far enough, cost more to insure and more to register. Got to replace the gas tax somewhere. Cost more to buy. We haven’t even plugged it in yet. The whole green energy deal is heading for a cliff. The warning signs are there people are ignoring them. People want to say I’m leaning toward an ideology. No I read a lot. There’s a lot more to this shiny new thing. Just doing something isn’t the answer. There’s more to it. A lot more.

Donstar · September 4, 2022

I believe doing something is the answer. A solution that doesn't spark opposition or upset or problems won't happen and I plan to go EV for my next vehicle. Time will tell if I've helped make a positive change. I actually have more confidence in a future supply of electricity than gas. Of course people in other environments who have no predictable or reliable source of electricity think differently. There are some options, albeit costly, to generate some or all of my personal home electrical needs but I can't say this for gas. I am hoping to hear more from others who have gone EV, preferably full sized pickup! My brother's report last night was about the frunk on his new Lightening....

diyer2 · September 4, 2022

Batteries have their uses, but not in vehicles IMO. Until I'm forced, if I live long enough no way. As far as the environment, there are so many other issues EV is a drop in the bucket.

Grumpy Bear · September 4, 2022

Smartest humans on the planet haven't a clue.

Can predict nothing.

Can fix nothing.

:nonod:

Nothing will be solved in a thread.

diyer2 · September 5, 2022

Donstar · September 5, 2022

16 hours ago, Grumpy Bear said:

Smartest humans on the planet haven't a clue.

Can predict nothing.

Can fix nothing.

Nothing will be solved in a thread.

No solutions are required or asked for in this thread. The fact is there are many SUV EV's on the road and now full sized pickups are being added. This trend is getting real for me as my brother recently brought home a F150 Lightening. I'd like to hear from others on this forum who have experience with the transition to EV's. Maybe the experience of others will help us to be better informed. I remember how conflicted I felt buying my '78 Fairmont because it took "unleaded fuel only". Horrible things could happen if you put leaded gas in an unleaded car or visa versa. (The environmental concerns were also debated) This analogy may seem weak but this leaded/unleaded issue was big and time/experience has rendered it insignificant. Last night my brother described how he is setting up his two houses to accommodate his Lightening. He previously owned a plug-in Hybrid so he has wiring in place.. He will be upgrading to better meet the needs of his F150. Of note, my brother needs his vehicle for work. He is in it most of the day. He also has a "beach house" that is rural. He originally bought a hybrid but after six months saw no practical advantage over all electric.

StinkyCheese · September 5, 2022

Environmental and political BS aside I find EVs interesting. GM claims to have an HD EV that'll be ready in the next couple years and when that happens I'll be even more interested. It'll still be another 20-30 years (if I live that long) before I have an EV as a primary vehicle. The range and charging infrastructure just isn't there for someone like me who can randomly decide to drive 3 or 4 hours to go somewhere. I'm not planning my random trip based off where I can charge and a lot of the places I travel to a charging system will be one of the very last things put there, if ever. People are free to buy what they want and when they want, doesn't bother me. What needs to stop is people thinking their opinions are more important than the person buying what they want. Do what makes ya happy.

KARNUT · September 5, 2022

I usually don’t travel on holidays. I did on this one. While filling up at a very large Buckeyes that was full as we’re all the stations in the area. A process that took minutes. A 400 mile range fill. I couldn’t help trying to imagine what it would look like for electric vehicles. Even if it was just half. I have a good imagination. I couldn’t imagine anything but a nightmare. Yea we’re far from ready, if ever.

Donstar · September 5, 2022

49 minutes ago, KARNUT said:

I usually don’t travel on holidays. I did on this one. While filling up at a very large Buckeyes that was full as we’re all the stations in the area. A process that took minutes. A 400 mile range fill. I couldn’t help trying to imagine what it would look like for electric vehicles. Even if it was just half. I have a good imagination. I couldn’t imagine anything but a nightmare. Yea we’re far from ready, if ever.

Yes, currently the range and re-charge time of an EV could slow down those who need to travel long distances in a day on a frequent basis. My brother's Lightening is rated at 320 miles which wouldn't be an issue for me. I can't foresee a road trip that would find me driving more than 250 miles in a day. I do hope to make a road trip to your neck of the woods but plans include overnight stays at several points of interest along the way. Fuel or re-charge will be part of the planning process.

customboss · September 8, 2022

SUV EV for $30000

General Motors revealed a new electric SUV Thursday that the automaker expects will be the cheapest compact electric SUV on the market when it goes into product in about a year. The Chevrolet Equinox EV will have a starting price around $30,000 which, at any rate, will make it among the cheapest electric vehicles of any sort.

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OnTheReel · September 8, 2022

1 hour ago, customboss said:

SUV EV for $30000

General Motors revealed a new electric SUV Thursday that the automaker expects will be the cheapest compact electric SUV on the market when it goes into product in about a year. The Chevrolet Equinox EV will have a starting price around $30,000 which, at any rate, will make it among the cheapest electric vehicles of any sort.

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Yeah, until the dealers get ahold of them. They aren’t even selling the regular rental car gasser ones at sticker, let alone that “hot commodity”.

At this rate, the poor won’t be able to afford an EV until it’s 10 years old and in need of a $20,000 battery.

customboss · September 9, 2022

Was reading about how the EV high initial cost to produce and lower cost of repair issues sans lower parts count most likely will have you buying a unit online or direct from maker and never having to set foot in a retail dealer.

Repair/service facilities will still exist but not associated with physical sales points. In other words independent OEM licensed retail middle man profit margin on EV's will be too low for anyone to have a showroom or ability to make up associated capitol costs to make up from high initial cost margin.

Most states are engaging this issue now with OEM's pushing for online type direct sales locations being cyber. A CarMax like try out the product place might exist but they won't sell the product.

This might explain why OEM's are so eager to sell EV's. They keep all that profit at the front end.

As far as cost of battery replacement the more there are the lower the price. If you can get a battery pack replaced faster than a oil change its gonna be real nice for the consumer that can use a EV effectively.

I will be on IC turbo 4 here until I can get a Trail Boss EV 4WD that charges in the heated garage.