Jeg's PCV oil separator

[Cowpie]

Well, just got a Jeg's PCV oil "catch can" separator put on my 2013 5.3L. Easy project that took less than a half hour.

 

http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS+Performance+Products/555/52205/10002/-1

 

 

 

 

 

 

[RyanbabZ71]

Nice,

 

Here is my RX on my camaro

 

 

[Cowpie]

I'll hope the Jegs will do a decent job or I will be right on top of the RX unit myself. Thought I would give this a try and see how it all plays out.

[BigBlueLB756]

I like it.

[jdnoble18]

Whats the purpose of this? Seems like if the engine needed this GM would have put it on from the factory.

 

The last thing I want to do is go messing with the lubrication system on a 30-40k vehicle.

[RyanbabZ71]

Its not messing with the lube system, and the camaro LE does come with one from the factory (dealer installed)

 

Feel free to do some reading on the subject, explains it pretty well here:

 

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=284219&highlight=apex+chase

[txab]

Whats the purpose of this? Seems like if the engine needed this GM would have put it on from the factory.

 

The last thing I want to do is go messing with the lubrication system on a 30-40k vehicle.

 

 

 

[jdnoble18]

I read about this. Still don't quite understand it. I see that it should stop deposits from developing on top of the valves. Why wouldn't GM include this on every model if it is so beneficial? Because of the additional maintenance of emptying the container? Below freezing temps would bust the container?

 

Txab, thanks for your reply.

 

Looks like you will have to empty it after some amount of time. Wonder how long it takes to fill up?

[Black02Silverado]

I read about this. Still don't quite understand it. I see that it should stop deposits from developing on top of the valves. Why wouldn't GM include this on every model if it is so beneficial? Because of the additional maintenance of emptying the container? Below freezing temps would bust the container?

 

Txab, thanks for your reply.

 

Looks like you will have to empty it after some amount of time. Wonder how long it takes to fill up?

 

Because not all vehicles need one and the additional cost to the overall price of he vehicle. Not to mention the average person isn't going to know what to do in terms of emptying it and maintenance. They are not going to be selling many vehicles if they tell the consumer they have to take it to the dealer every 3k miles to have it serviced. It is easier to just let the engines build deposits and then sell a new vehicle.

[jdnoble18]

I am slowly getting interested in this. Could this be a contributing factor to the trouble that people are having with oil burning issues on the 5.3?

[RyanbabZ71]

I read about this. Still don't quite understand it. I see that it should stop deposits from developing on top of the valves. Why wouldn't GM include this on every model if it is so beneficial? Because of the additional maintenance of emptying the container? Below freezing temps would bust the container?

 

Txab, thanks for your reply.

 

Looks like you will have to empty it after some amount of time. Wonder how long it takes to fill up?

 

I basically just installed mine in the car (looking at getting a Mike Norris Can in a few wks for the truck) however most people just drain the can at each oil change. You dont get all that much out from what I hear so it would take a long time to fill it up. Its easy enough to crack the drain and drain it while doing an oil change.

[BigBlueLB756]

And then there's the cheap-*ss solution, but it works so who cares.

 

 

You really ought to do your engine a favor and put one on, whether it be bling or cheap.

[Cowpie]

There are a lot of things that OEM's don't add to vehicles. You have to always remember, they are only going to do things that move sales and make them money. Period. They will use the lowest vendor to make components that will meet the quality standard they have set, and even then, someone drops the ball once in a while. I hauled production auto components to assembly plants for GM, Ford, and Mopar for a lot of years.

 

We have the same problem in commercial trucking. It is well known that bypass oil filtration will keep engine oil much cleaner and last longer than without. But virtually every engine put in a commercial truck does not come with one. Likewise, for the pre-emissions stuff, it is well known that high flow exhaust systems will decrease exhaust gas temps and increase mpg on commercial trucks. But again, the lowest bid that meets the minimum standard wins.

 

There are plenty of examples of oil being drawn thru the PCV system on consumer engines causing issues. Not always, for sure, but I am not going to play a "what if" or "wait and see" game with an engine. Here is a collection of pics that show what things can look like over time when this oil problem is not addressed.......

 

http://www.google.com/search?q=intake+valve+buildup&hl=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=K4U2UZufFI-W8gSW9oDQDg&sqi=2&ved=0CDIQsAQ&biw=2021&bih=875

 

 

And here are some pics posted on another forum...... Scroll down about halfway down the page.......

 

http://www.silveradosierra.com/vortec-5-3l-v8/pcv-catch-can-t92241-20.html

 

 

You may not get that much oil that needs to be removed in the short run. It is not uncommon for maybe a shot glass full between oil changes. But over time that really adds up. Now add the few dirt particles that manage to get thru the air filter, the exhaust (and soot particles) being sent into the intake from the EGR, and all of that begins to join with the oil film being deposited on the intake, and you can end up with real mess over time. And you combine build up like this, on cylinders and the associated valves that are not doing anything thanks to AFM, and the problem could be far worse than many realize.

 

Now, Jerry, to your point.... I would much rather address this problem to some extent and take a move to protect my engine longer than not do so. The risk is nil.

[Cowpie]

Decided, just for grins, to see how much oil had been trapped out of the PCV system in just 130 miles since I installed the unit last night. Jerry...... take notice what you and GM don't think is a problem......

 

[XYZ]

I added one of these as well earlier this year. If you removed the air intake tube from the throttle body, there would be a small puddle of oil sitting in the throttle body. Installing a PCV catch-can system like this has now completely ceased this from happening. Good insurance on a brand-new throttle body I bought...mine looks a lot like the one RyanbabZ71 has....