Colossus Posted November 8, 2014 Posted November 8, 2014 I must be in the minority when I don't like aftermarket exhaust systems.
Coach Hill Posted December 15, 2014 Posted December 15, 2014 Yeah AFM! Didn't like it so I tuned it out. Can't tell that I'm getting any worse mileage since tuning. Not sure you can convince me that a 6,000 lb vehicle running on 4 cylinders is going to save fuel! By the way, I like my truck a LOT better now that it shifts like it should and I'm getting more of the engine's potential.
WendysOrBust Posted December 29, 2014 Posted December 29, 2014 Not sure you can convince me that a 6,000 lb vehicle running on 4 cylinders is going to save fuel! Its not that hard. Under certain circumstances only a fraction of the engines power is required to keep the vehicle in constant motion. The bread and butter of the AFM is on the highway going 50-65mph, which is the average speed limit of US highways. At those speeds is where the truck is most aerodynamic and when the v4 can keep the truck at a consistent speed. It is really hard work to get a 6000lb truck to get over 20mpg. That is why things like the air dam, tires, and ride stance or so important and sensitive at the same time. Just take a look over at the suspension/leveling thread. When guys level their trucks and remove the air dam and add larger tires they can take a hit of up to 4mpg. 1
KARNUT Posted December 29, 2014 Posted December 29, 2014 Its not that hard. Under certain circumstances only a fraction of the engines power is required to keep the vehicle in constant motion. The bread and butter of the AFM is on the highway going 50-65mph, which is the average speed limit of US highways. At those speeds is where the truck is most aerodynamic and when the v4 can keep the truck at a consistent speed. It is really hard work to get a 6000lb truck to get over 20mpg. That is why things like the air dam, tires, and ride stance or so important and sensitive at the same time. Just take a look over at the suspension/leveling thread. When guys level their trucks and remove the air dam and add larger tires they can take a hit of up to 4mpg. I turned mine back on twice no change in gas mileage that was noticeable. It did vibrate at slow speeds and made that awful V4 drone.
WendysOrBust Posted December 29, 2014 Posted December 29, 2014 (edited) I turned mine back on twice no change in gas mileage that was noticeable. It did vibrate at slow speeds and made that awful V4 drone. Well what kind of driving where you doing? What mpg where you averaging with AFM and without. Like I said above. AFM might only net you .5mpg during city driving. Its during highway speeds where it nets you 2-3mpg. I've averaged full tank 20.5 mpg's while driving down to Houston but usually get 17.5 with a 50/50 City/Highway mix. Now these past few tanks I've been running e85 which causes AFM to run longer and more frequently, however my mpg's have dropped to 15 with mostly highway and down to 13ish with city and highway mix. If you have an aftermarket exhaust I can see disabling it since it'll sound like a "helicopter" with certain exhaust combinations. But as far as just daily driving I can't even tell when its on. I have to specifically change my info screen in my gauge cluster to be aware that its coming on/off. For me its never caused any vibrations or a laggy throttle. From what I've read before it only activates and stays running when engine load is under 10%. Edited December 29, 2014 by WendysOrBust
WendysOrBust Posted December 29, 2014 Posted December 29, 2014 (edited) edit: double post Edited December 29, 2014 by WendysOrBust
KARNUT Posted December 29, 2014 Posted December 29, 2014 Well what kind of driving where you doing? What mpg where you averaging with AFM and without. Like I said above. AFM might only net you .5mpg during city driving. Its during highway speeds where it nets you 2-3mpg. I've averaged full tank 20.5 mpg's while driving down to Houston but usually get 17.5 with a 50/50 City/Highway mix. Now these past few tanks I've been running e85 which causes AFM to run longer and more frequently, however my mpg's have dropped to 15 with mostly highway and down to 13ish with city and highway mix. If you have an aftermarket exhaust I can see disabling it since it'll sound like a "helicopter" with certain exhaust combinations. But as far as just daily driving I can't even tell when its on. I have to specifically change my info screen in my gauge cluster to be aware that its coming on/off. For me its never caused any vibrations or a laggy throttle. From what I've read before it only activates and stays running when engine load is under 10%. Mine would come on in town in fourth gear and vibrate and drone. As far as HWY on a trip east on I10 past Lake Charles and average 22MPG at 72 MPH with it off. Earlier with less miles on it and a stock muffler I got 19MPG going north from Conroe to Buffalo at 75 MPH with it on. Just recently before my last service I turned it back on and added back the muffler the drone and the vibration was gone but the mileage didn't change. When its time for the next service I will try it again. I did notice the transmission seems happier at low speed shifts with it off, less confused. Notice the same when I had it on but driving in M5 in town, less confusion with the shifts.
Gmcant33 Posted January 7, 2015 Posted January 7, 2015 For me it's a fun video game seeing how much time I can spend in V4. My best so far is accelerating from 15 all the way to 50 on just 4 cylinders. My instantaneous readout usually goes up about 20% when it changes from V8 to V4, so it does save some gas. With a small lift and 34" tires, 20mpg overall seems pretty good to me. Is this on e85? Or 87 nice numbers btw
DanielAcosta Posted January 9, 2015 Posted January 9, 2015 (edited) Is this on e85? Or 87 nice numbers btw Mostly 87, occasionally 85 in parts of the country that sell it. Edited January 9, 2015 by DanielAcosta
Silverado-Hareek Posted January 9, 2015 Posted January 9, 2015 (edited) I haven't been following this entire thread but I have recently started driving around town in M5 to keep it in V8. The truck feels MUCH better now. I may consider getting the Range AFM delete device if I can find the funds. I dont' want to tune the truck while it's under warranty. But I'm keeping it in M5 at all times unless I'm on the interstate. Edited January 9, 2015 by Silverado-Hareek
glcbn Posted January 10, 2015 Posted January 10, 2015 It's been pretty cold here lately, and I've noticed the truck goes into V4 more often and when it does, it stays there longer. But in this cold, mileage has taken a dive. The colder the worse it is too. It struggles to get to the mid 17's. Right before fall set in I was working on 22 average. For mileage, seems these engines prefer warm temps.
Silverado-Hareek Posted January 12, 2015 Posted January 12, 2015 It's been pretty cold here lately, and I've noticed the truck goes into V4 more often and when it does, it stays there longer. But in this cold, mileage has taken a dive. The colder the worse it is too. It struggles to get to the mid 17's. Right before fall set in I was working on 22 average. For mileage, seems these engines prefer warm temps. I've experienced the opposite. Before I started driving in mostly M5, I noticed the truck stayed in V8 mostly until the engine warmed up and then it would switch to V4 accordingly.
Chad2815 Posted February 15, 2015 Posted February 15, 2015 Anyone else noticed V4 doesn't come on until the engine hits 210? Would be curious to see if a lower thermostat would cause issues because of this.
calgator73 Posted February 16, 2015 Posted February 16, 2015 Mine comes on well before that. Think v4 is a function of a few things. Leave the house it's 18°F. When the needle moves off the peg the hvac starts blowing warm and pretty soon after that v4 (maybe 180 at the latest)
calgator73 Posted February 16, 2015 Posted February 16, 2015 Found a thread that claims previous generation allowed afm at 97°...no idea if that is accurate or if it carried over.
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