New egoboost

thewhitestallion · October 16, 2014

a little vibration versus an engine turbo burning up or not lasting as long as a truck is normally kept ! ...........hmm which one is worse....I will take the vibration (and I don't have any vibration in mine)

down playing the issue does not change the fact. I'm sure the people that have the vibration issue and have had their truck in the shop for more time than they have driven think differently of the situation.

Jake56 · October 16, 2014

Go hug and kiss your Ford it misses the attention, and while you at it make sure you don't use your turbo in rainy weather and that you fill up your gas tank with "premium".

Northside · October 16, 2014

Whatever! This is a GM Trucks forum. While some guys will switch brands indiscriminately, most of us are dyed in the wool, true blue GM guys. If we liked Fords we'd be on a different forum. I prefer GM trucks after owning a few Fords. I can't give an unbiased opinion because my past experiences with Ford were bad. Are the new trucks better? Maybe. Are they better than our trucks? Could be but I don't care, I'm a Chevy guy and as such I believe Fords are second rate. G.M. pioneered V6 engines in pickups in the early 60's. Now Ford puts one in theirs adds a turbo and call it innovative.

Mickey_D · October 16, 2014

Whos driving any vehicle passed 150k anymore really, and I mean really. Dont say you are. Data shows most americans dont own a car for more than 5 years or so. And really theres no emperical data to show what this engine will do or not do. Its been out 38 months now, with most hard core drivers getting 20k a year, these trucks are just getting into the 100k mark.

Im not saying they will do well after 150k. But its speculatory to say they wont do well or will do well, and to top it off as I said before nobody is keeping these things to 150k.

I kept my last GMC over 140K miles and nine years (still did not use any oil and ran great), so yes, people do keep vehicles for a long time, especially when they don't have to worry about road salt and rust. Between the new paints and better plastics, cars and trucks still look good enough 15 years down the road to want them to run right and not need a $12,000 engine replacement. My comment was that I have seen a lot more ecoboost Fords (you can tell them by the front license plate location) blue smoking than I have the others combined. Most of them are being driven by construction people who I doubt take great care of them by the looks of them.

Mickey_D · October 16, 2014

And my main point is if the ecoboost trucks crap out faster than the competition it is going to kill the resale value on them. A ten year old truck that needs very expensive repairs (like a new engine) is not going to have any trade in value other than how much does it weigh and how much is scrap a pound.

crushNchowda · October 16, 2014

I know they have been turbo charging for years I said that. But if you look at their engine models most of them are smaller and or diesel. Yes theyve had some larger engines, but that isnt the norm and not sure thats what they make their bread and butter on. And yes the US has dealt with some turbos in the past but it has been limited and they have been junk. As far as superchargers minus say your performance market or your one off special edtion(mustang, camaro etc.), what are they putting them on? As far as I know in none of the three are offering super chargers in a line model impala, charger, fusion etc.

I don't think the Cobalt SS (supercharged), Focus ST (turbocharged), cruze (turbo), CTS-V/ZL1/ZR1 (SC), Turbo diesel HD trucks (which the US is the end all be all), the fusion offers TWO turbo engines (one of the cars you mention) - are crap? that's just getting started on the US automakers.

As far as MB is concerned, they've ALWAYS gone w/ large displacement engines on their higher end models whether they be luxury/sport or both (usually both) and in recent history they're ALWAYS turbo'd large displacement.

I don't think Europe has had a leg up on the US when it comes to FI or vice versa, I just think they've utilized FI at different times in different applications for different reasons - hey, remember when NONE of BMW's lineup (I do wasn't very long ago and at that time audi had lots of turbos) back then if they offered a turbo it would've been heresy!!! Now, they ALL have FI. ALL OF THEM.

P.S. - in highschool I had a turbo Grand Prix w/ a stick (yep, 1990) and my buddy had a SC grandprix (also great engine) - does that mean Audi copied pontiac by supercharging the A7?

Ford thunderbird SC

Grand Nat/GNX turbo

I'm not sure why you think the europeans are forerunners in FI because they're unequivocally not.

Chris · October 16, 2014

I don't think the Cobalt SS (supercharged), Focus ST (turbocharged), cruze (turbo), CTS-V/ZL1/ZR1 (SC), Turbo diesel HD trucks (which the US is the end all be all), the fusion offers TWO turbo engines (one of the cars you mention) - are crap? that's just getting started on the US automakers.

As far as MB is concerned, they've ALWAYS gone w/ large displacement engines on their higher end models whether they be luxury/sport or both (usually both) and in recent history they're ALWAYS turbo'd large displacement.

I don't think Europe has had a leg up on the US when it comes to FI or vice versa, I just think they've utilized FI at different times in different applications for different reasons - hey, remember when NONE of BMW's lineup (I do wasn't very long ago and at that time audi had lots of turbos) back then if they offered a turbo it would've been heresy!!! Now, they ALL have FI. ALL OF THEM.

P.S. - in highschool I had a turbo Grand Prix w/ a stick (yep, 1990) and my buddy had a SC grandprix (also great engine) - does that mean Audi copied pontiac by supercharging the A7?

Ford thunderbird SC

Grand Nat/GNX turbo

I'm not sure why you think the europeans are forerunners in FI because they're unequivocally not.

Dont forget the Thunderbird Turbo Coupe with the Turbo 2.3. It was MT's Car of the Year in 87. I owned one in the 5 speed flavor. I loved every minute of it

nards444 · October 16, 2014

I don't think the Cobalt SS (supercharged), Focus ST (turbocharged), cruze (turbo), CTS-V/ZL1/ZR1 (SC), Turbo diesel HD trucks (which the US is the end all be all), the fusion offers TWO turbo engines (one of the cars you mention) - are crap? that's just getting started on the US automakers.

As far as MB is concerned, they've ALWAYS gone w/ large displacement engines on their higher end models whether they be luxury/sport or both (usually both) and in recent history they're ALWAYS turbo'd large displacement.

I don't think Europe has had a leg up on the US when it comes to FI or vice versa, I just think they've utilized FI at different times in different applications for different reasons - hey, remember when NONE of BMW's lineup (I do wasn't very long ago and at that time audi had lots of turbos) back then if they offered a turbo it would've been heresy!!! Now, they ALL have FI. ALL OF THEM.

P.S. - in highschool I had a turbo Grand Prix w/ a stick (yep, 1990) and my buddy had a SC grandprix (also great engine) - does that mean Audi copied pontiac by supercharging the A7?

Ford thunderbird SC

Grand Nat/GNX turbo

I'm not sure why you think the europeans are forerunners in FI because they're unequivocally not.

You quoted superchargers those are not all superchargers, same concept as in forced induction, but they operate off of two different prinicipals. And yes, yes diesel trucks with turbos, I know. So I go back to my question of how many vehicles beyond performance or niche trim levels in american cars/half ton trucks have been SUPER charged over the years and have success. And yes the grand prix ssis or whatever was one. But in general there hasnt been that many,

And when everybody thinks of benz or BMW they think high end, not everything they make is high end, and everything they send over here we think is high end due to import cost. Go look at their engine packages and the bulk of the vehicles they sell in europe are smaller vehicles. And yes they have been using this technology maybe not longer, but they have used more exclusively longer.

I kept my last GMC over 140K miles and nine years (still did not use any oil and ran great), so yes, people do keep vehicles for a long time, especially when they don't have to worry about road salt and rust. Between the new paints and better plastics, cars and trucks still look good enough 15 years down the road to want them to run right and not need a $12,000 engine replacement. My comment was that I have seen a lot more ecoboost Fords (you can tell them by the front license plate location) blue smoking than I have the others combined. Most of them are being driven by construction people who I doubt take great care of them by the looks of them.

Maybe you have and other have here. But the facts say in general people do not. Nothing wrong with what you do or dont do, but according to statistics people just dont do it.

nards444 · October 16, 2014

Whatever! This is a GM Trucks forum. While some guys will switch brands indiscriminately, most of us are dyed in the wool, true blue GM guys. If we liked Fords we'd be on a different forum. I prefer GM trucks after owning a few Fords. I can't give an unbiased opinion because my past experiences with Ford were bad. Are the new trucks better? Maybe. Are they better than our trucks? Could be but I don't care, I'm a Chevy guy and as such I believe Fords are second rate. G.M. pioneered V6 engines in pickups in the early 60's. Now Ford puts one in theirs adds a turbo and call it innovative.

I am a GM fan I have been driving for almost 20 years between me and my wife I have bought 6 brand new chevys, 2 new ford, 1 used ford, and 3 used Chevys. And this is a GM forum I got it, but to be a brand sheep and not discuss the merits and downsides of whats out there and not out there is not progressive. And a shopper specially a shopper on an item such as vehicle that today cost lots of money it would behoove one to look at everything vs just being a brand homer and buying what your brand gives you.

Look my wife bought a malibu with the 2.0l turbo, it has more power than the v6 that comes with it, we got i 3 grand cheaper and gets better MPG. Will last to a million miles I dont know, I dont care its a lease and even if it wasnt, do the math on buying vehicles these days it doesnt make sense to buy them pay them off and start over again.

I currently sit in a 2014 silverado, its a nice truck, is there anything innovative with its power pack no, is it better than the eco boost I owned a few years ago no it wasnt. Will the ecoboost last I dont know its not been out more than 4 years yet. Will this new 5.3 last, I dont know that either, the last 5.3 spit oil all over and wasnt on gracious on gas. So who knows.

nards444 · October 16, 2014

Go hug and kiss your Ford it misses the attention, and while you at it make sure you don't use your turbo in rainy weather and that you fill up your gas tank with "premium".

Uneducated jabs. Moisture affected some units pre 13-12ish, and no requirement to run premium, 87 is actually reccomended.

giantrules · October 16, 2014

I will admit that I test drove several EBs before I bought my Silverado and actually had the intention of scooping one up....my bowtie blood is almost as thick as my love for boost. The Lariat I drove had the cheapest feeling interior...the 3.5 pulled hard like a freight train and I loved it. I have 4 friends who all have gas in the oil issues with EB (variety of years) so that helped make my decision. Plus, try and find a Ford with leather and a front bench which was a "need".

2 cents...

thewhitestallion · October 16, 2014

Go hug and kiss your Ford it misses the attention, and while you at it make sure you don't use your turbo in rainy weather and that you fill up your gas tank with "premium".

To the contrary i have never owned a ford in my life, except for when i was a kid and my parents bought a ford econoline to travel in (that thing was awesome!). I am not here to try and change your mind about fords being pieces of garage, but what I cant stand is when closed minded people like you post ignorant post, i.e. your post that i just quoted has almost no merit to it.

Chris · October 16, 2014

I will admit that I test drove several EBs before I bought my Silverado and actually had the intention of scooping one up....my bowtie blood is almost as thick as my love for boost. The Lariat I drove had the cheapest feeling interior...the 3.5 pulled hard like a freight train and I loved it. I have 4 friends who all have gas in the oil issues with EB (variety of years) so that helped make my decision. Plus, try and find a Ford with leather and a front bench which was a "need".

2 cents...

Got a 2011 F150 Lariat in my backyard. It does have leather and a bench. Not an ecoboost though

MikeNH · October 16, 2014

Uneducated jabs. Moisture affected some units pre 13-12ish, and no requirement to run premium, 87 is actually reccomended.

Didn't the quoted passage from the manual say to use premium for best performance?

Spurshot · October 17, 2014

I've had 4 GM trucks in a row, 5 if you count the El Camino. One had to be bought back by Chevy, mainly because they don't know how to fix some things at their dealerships.

But I was looking at a Raptor at my camper dealer today. It's quite a machine.