2.7 Turbo 4 Fan Club

[MDSilveradoGuy]

I just can’t get enough of the whistle!

 

 

[MDSilveradoGuy]

Just crossed the 500 mile mark on the way home from work last night (and I picked it up last Saturday... yeesh!)

 

Aside from it riding like an ox cart (I have 22’s, so I expected it) and the 8 speed being the relative garbage that it is, I am in love. Not a single complaint about the engine. 

[Imcrazy]

On 4/5/2019 at 1:10 PM, f8l vnm said:

i was one of those who was hesitant about this motor but after a few MPG reviews , Im impressed... I agree if your not towing heavy things , this is a nice motor to have. 

Gm Needs to offer this motor on the next Colorado/Canyon . no need for the  3.6 V6 

 

 

I disagree, the 3.6 is a great motor... I see no major advantages to these tiny motors to justify their massive downsides...

 

If anything the 3.6 would be more more appropriate in the T1 trucks than the 4 cyl

#1 Turbo lag

#2 Turbo lag

#3 Turbo lag...

#4 Long term reliability

#5 Sounds like you're driving a Honda Accord...

#6 If you're worried about fuel economy Gm makes some great crossovers and cars, the drive to squeeze an MPG or two out of these trucks is taking away from the overall driving experience, increasing the likely hood of issues and driving up the cost of trucks...  I'd rather pay less for the truck and buy a few more gallons of fuel a year than deal with all this AFM, DFM, Missing Cylinders replaced by turbo's and 10 gear transmission crap..

 

Caveat, I'm pretty old school....

[KARNUT]

Maybe GMs 4cyl is noisy, Toyota and Honda’s are not. Whoosh is what I hear.


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[Imcrazy]

29 minutes ago, KARNUT said:

Maybe GMs 4cyl is noisy, Toyota and Honda’s are not. Whoosh is what I hear.


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I've had honda's, mazda's ford's and now a 2.0T chevy in my wifes equinox and don't get me wrong they sound okay in a car but, just weird in a big ole truck.. I'd still prefer a 3.6L V6 in the Equinox like the last gen had but, the 2.0T gets the job done once the brief lag has passed... Not a deep menacing growl like a V6 or V8 though... Certainly not something to highlight IMO...

[KARNUT]

I've had honda's, mazda's ford's and now a 2.0T chevy in my wifes equinox and don't get me wrong they sound okay in a car but, just weird in a big ole truck.. I'd still prefer a 3.6L V6 in the Equinox like the last gen had but, the 2.0T gets the job done once the brief lag has passed... Not a deep menacing growl like a V6 or V8 though... Certainly not something to highlight IMO...

I’m old school too. While not downing other engines, I wouldn’t have anything but a V-8 in a truck and do. I don’t buy them for gas mileage. I use my truck for truck things and fun. I drive my Camry for comfort and fuel mileage on trips.


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[KARNUT]

I've had honda's, mazda's ford's and now a 2.0T chevy in my wifes equinox and don't get me wrong they sound okay in a car but, just weird in a big ole truck.. I'd still prefer a 3.6L V6 in the Equinox like the last gen had but, the 2.0T gets the job done once the brief lag has passed... Not a deep menacing growl like a V6 or V8 though... Certainly not something to highlight IMO...

I’m old school too. While not downing other engines, I wouldn’t have anything but a V-8 in a truck and do. I don’t buy them for gas mileage. I use my truck for truck things and fun. I drive my Camry for comfort and fuel mileage on trips.


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[KARNUT]

I've had honda's, mazda's ford's and now a 2.0T chevy in my wifes equinox and don't get me wrong they sound okay in a car but, just weird in a big ole truck.. I'd still prefer a 3.6L V6 in the Equinox like the last gen had but, the 2.0T gets the job done once the brief lag has passed... Not a deep menacing growl like a V6 or V8 though... Certainly not something to highlight IMO...

I’m old school too. While not downing other engines, I wouldn’t have anything but a V-8 in a truck and do. I don’t buy them for gas mileage. I use my truck for truck things and fun. I drive my Camry for comfort and fuel mileage on trips.


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[Imcrazy]

Just now, KARNUT said:

I’m old school too. While not downing other engines, I wouldn’t have anything but a V-8 in a truck and do. I don’t buy them for gas mileage. I use my truck for truck things and fun. I drive my Camry for comfort and fuel mileage on trips.


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Yeah i'm not trying to trash people for buying 4 cyl's I guess I'm just saying if I could I'd have a V6 or V8 in everything I own and no Turbo's... I don't like the lag and I appreciate the smooth power delivery of a larger motor... Unfortunately 4 cyl's with turbos are in style now... I would have liked to get an Acadia instead of the Equinox we just bought so I could have had a 3.6L V6 but, that wasn't in the budget this time around... I'm surprised how much I like my wife's 2018 Equinox Premier but, I still think my '16 SIlverado is the most comfortable vehicle I've owned...

[KARNUT]

Yeah i'm not trying to trash people for buying 4 cyl's I guess I'm just saying if I could I'd have a V6 or V8 in everything I own and no Turbo's... I don't like the lag and I appreciate the smooth power delivery of a larger motor... Unfortunately 4 cyl's with turbos are in style now... I would have liked to get an Acadia instead of the Equinox we just bought so I could have had a 3.6L V6 but, that wasn't in the budget this time around... I'm surprised how much I like my wife's 2018 Equinox Premier but, I still think my '16 SIlverado is the most comfortable vehicle I've owned...

I bought my Toyota for the non turbo 4cyl, 6 speed auto instead of cvt, dials instead of touch screen and the end of model run for 10K off.


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[MDSilveradoGuy]

1 hour ago, Imcrazy said:

I disagree, the 3.6 is a great motor... I see no major advantages to these tiny motors to justify their massive downsides...

 

If anything the 3.6 would be more more appropriate in the T1 trucks than the 4 cyl

#1 Turbo lag

#2 Turbo lag

#3 Turbo lag...

#4 Long term reliability

#5 Sounds like you're driving a Honda Accord...

#6 If you're worried about fuel economy Gm makes some great crossovers and cars, the drive to squeeze an MPG or two out of these trucks is taking away from the overall driving experience, increasing the likely hood of issues and driving up the cost of trucks...  I'd rather pay less for the truck and buy a few more gallons of fuel a year than deal with all this AFM, DFM, Missing Cylinders replaced by turbo's and 10 gear transmission crap..

 

Caveat, I'm pretty old school....

How many miles have you got under your belt behind the wheel of a Silverado with the 2.7 so far? I’m curious when I’m going to start experiencing my turbo lag.

Edited April 27, 2019 by MDSilveradoGuy

[Imcrazy]

50 minutes ago, MDSilveradoGuy said:

How many miles have you got under your belt behind the wheel of a Silverado with the 2.7 so far? I’m curious when I’m going to start experiencing my turbo lag.

I own a 2.0T Equinox and had a 1.5T Malibu and I've driven quite a few other boosted cars & trucks.. The only way to avoid that lag is to run twin turbo's like Ford does on the 3.5 Ego Boost... I'm sure it's not as noticeable on flat land or unloaded but, throw 1500# in the bed or 9k # on a trailer behind it and you're going to notice the singular turbo lag... I'm not saying it's a total POS it's just kinda like a boys toy vs. a mans tool... If your just playing around with your truck the 4 banger may do the trick but, if you need a legit tool, it won't be up for the job... They are perfectly sufficient in cars and lots of crossovers but, I think that they will be a short lived MPG gimmick in full size trucks and you'll see a V6 take it's place... The 3.6 V6 would probably get just about the same MPG without all the inherent short comings of an I4 in a truck that seems to get bigger with each generation...

[Imcrazy]

1 hour ago, KARNUT said:

I bought my Toyota for the non turbo 4cyl, 6 speed auto instead of cvt, dials instead of touch screen and the end of model run for 10K off.


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Yeah I liked the bigger I4's instead of the smaller turbo ones... We had a 2014 Mazda 6 with a 2.5L I4 and that thing got after it with a 6 speed auto it was fun to drive... The 1.5L Turbo Malibu that took it's place in our garage had very similar HP numbers but, the turbo lag made it kind of a dog... Although it was a really nice car compared to the Mazda 6...

[MDSilveradoGuy]

11 minutes ago, Imcrazy said:

I own a 2.0T Equinox and had a 1.5T Malibu and I've driven quite a few other boosted cars & trucks.. The only way to avoid that lag is to run twin turbo's like Ford does on the 3.5 Ego Boost... I'm sure it's not as noticeable on flat land or unloaded but, throw 1500# in the bed or 9k # on a trailer behind it and you're going to notice the singular turbo lag... I'm not saying it's a total POS it's just kinda like a boys toy vs. a mans tool... If your just playing around with your truck the 4 banger may do the trick but, if you need a legit tool, it won't be up for the job... They are perfectly sufficient in cars and lots of crossovers but, I think that they will be a short lived MPG gimmick in full size trucks and you'll see a V6 take it's place... The 3.6 V6 would probably get just about the same MPG without all the inherent short comings of an I4 in a truck that seems to get bigger with each generation...

Ah ok. So you haven’t driven one. 

 

Point made. I’ve got 2 other turbos sitting in my garage - one of which is known for its lag.  Twin turbo is not the only solution to lag - dual volute is working quite well with this engine. Again, I’ve driven it, I’m not going on outdated ideas here. 

 

Had the boat behind it earlier actually, bringing it home for some fun tomorrow.  Not a bit different than going down the road unloaded. The boys at TFL didn’t have any noticeable lag when running fully loaded either. It’s a pretty legit tool considering it pulled the Ike at its limit in the same time that the 6.2 did at its limit. Sounds pretty well matched to the truck to me. 

 

The 3.6 sounds like garbage and pulls like garbage. It’s nowhere near the same class as this... I’ve owned one of them as well. 

Edited April 27, 2019 by MDSilveradoGuy

[Imcrazy]

4 minutes ago, MDSilveradoGuy said:

Ah ok. So you haven’t driven one. 

 

Point made. I’ve got 2 other turbos sitting in my garage - so it’s not like these are new to me. Twin turbo is not the only solution to lag - dual volute is working quite well with this engine. Again, I’ve driven it, I’m not going on outdated ideas here. 

 

Had the boat behind it earlier actually, bringing it home for some fun tomorrow.  Not a bit different than going down the road unloaded. The boys at TFL didn’t have any noticeable lag when running fully loaded either. 

 

The 3.6 sounds like garbage and pulls like garbage. It’s nowhere near the same class as this... I’ve owned one of them as well. 

To each their own man, you'll not see a 4 cyl full size truck in my garage... 4 cyl turbo's are 4 cyl turbo's some do a better job of hiding it but, even with a lot of lipstick a pig is still a pig... Full size trucks ought to be powered by V8 motors in my book but, hey you voted with your dollars and rolled the dice on the experimental power plant.. I hope you continue to be happy with it... FWIW I owned a '17 Colorado with a 3.6 and that thing scooted...

Edited April 27, 2019 by Imcrazy