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What difference does China make right now?  We need to be worried about saving American lives not pointing fingers at China.
 
By mid-January we had it in this country.  It took two months from there before Trump took it seriously.  Our own American leadership is failing us when we need it most and you're worried about CHINA?  Please.  We need to stop trying to save face ourselves first.  Be part of the solution.

He took it seriously far sooner than anyone else. Much to the abuse of the media and the left. Make no mistake China new how bad it was. They disappeared several of their doctors trying to warn the world about it.


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I’m wondering. Remember H1-N1? Mass hysteria? Stock Market going crazy? Who’s going to make money? Who’s pushing the most hysteria?

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I work in a gov't office in a secret underground undisclosed location, as they say.  No, really.  We received a briefing from an epidemiologist in Washington State.  He said that if you put someone in

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Deverado - I read this differently.  I read it as US need to handle our business

Exactly!  Don't turn the comment into something like that please.  

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California has a ton of folks and I understand being cautious, but we have and idea where the problems areas are and where they are going to be.  As a taxpayer in the state, I am not opposed to sending an overage of equipment and personnel to other areas of the country to help out.  We do this a lot in the state, fire fighting comes to mind.

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He took it seriously far sooner than anyone else. Much to the abuse of the media and the left. Make no mistake China new how bad it was. They disappeared several of their doctors trying to warn the world about it.

 

Lol you must be joking.

 

 

 

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Lol you must be joking.
 
 
 

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New York Governor says "near or at the peak". Question Peak of what? New cases, deaths? 30K new cases just yesterday.  814 deaths yesterday! 

 

New York State 122,031 cases, 4,159 dead, 10,478 recovered. ((4,159 + 10,478) / 122,031)) * 100 = 12% of the current cases have a final resolution. 

 

((4,159 / 122,031) / 122,031)) * 100 = 3.4 MR. Just a few days ago this was just under 2%. A week ago under 1.2%. 

 

What is not being understood is that as the resolution rate increases so does the mortality rate. There are only two resolutions. Life or Death. 

 

Italy has the highest resolution rate of anyone whose numbers any MIGHT trust. A hair over 29%. A long way to go yet. They have currently 15,362 dead. Current mortality rate 12.3% and it has been climbing week over week even though new cases have been on the decline since 3/20/2020. They still have 88,274 person sick. Around 4,000 considered serious. 

 

New York State has 2.5 times as many case as Italy and 1/3 the population. 60.48M v 19.54M. Read that back real slow then look at that Italian MR again. Look at the resolution numbers again. Go to The US COVID-19 Atlas and find New York State. As of 4/3/2020 they had 55,180 beds and 107,394 open cases. Yes not all need a bed and even fewer a vent. China just donated 1,100 vents to NYC. 

 

So what PEAK is the Governor talking about? 

 

Seems we have no shortage of people ignoring "Shelter in Place" orders. Some people just have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. Unbelievable part now is that this self indulgent action is forcing others to pee on the fence with them. 

 

 

 

 

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Surgeon General described the next few days as a 9/11 or Pearl Harbor event.  Not  a good comparison to me, but the difference is during those events the country was speaking and acting with one voice.  Not the case right now, each state for themselves.  If your state was late to the party...

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New York Governor says "near or at the peak". Question Peak of what? New cases, deaths? 30K new cases just yesterday.  814 deaths yesterday! 
 
New York State 122,031 cases, 4,159 dead, 10,478 recovered. ((4,159 + 10,478) / 122,031)) * 100 = 12% of the current cases have a final resolution. 
 
((4,159 / 122,031) / 122,031)) * 100 = 3.4 MR. Just a few days ago this was just under 2%. A week ago under 1.2%. 
 
What is not being understood is that as the resolution rate increases so does the mortality rate. There are only two resolutions. Life or Death. 
 
Italy has the highest resolution rate of anyone whose numbers any MIGHT trust. A hair over 29%. A long way to go yet. They have currently 15,362 dead. Current mortality rate 12.3% and it has been climbing week over week even though new cases have been on the decline since 3/20/2020. They still have 88,274 person sick. Around 4,000 considered serious. 
 
New York State has 2.5 times as many case as Italy and 1/3 the population. 60.48M v 19.54M. Read that back real slow then look at that Italian MR again. Look at the resolution numbers again. Go to The US COVID-19 Atlas and find New York State. As of 4/3/2020 they had 55,180 beds and 107,394 open cases. Yes not all need a bed and even fewer a vent. China just donated 1,100 vents to NYC. 
 
So what PEAK is the Governor talking about? 
 
Seems we have no shortage of people ignoring "Shelter in Place" orders. Some people just have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. Unbelievable part now is that this self indulgent action is forcing others to pee on the fence with them. 
 
 
 
 

I think he’s going by discharge rates versus intake rates. Seems it gets lost in all of this is the goal from the beginning. That was slow the rate so the hospitals could handle the sick. I don’t think anyone really believed that most people would avoid getting this bug. Maybe people now have been made aware that with this bug and other seasonal bugs. Better hygiene and awareness can save the lives of the weak among us.


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Lol you must be joking.
 
 
 

I love how you find a cut and edited version from The Guardian. Yeah, they are super trust worthy. I just looked and I can’t even find 1 clip on you tube with Nancy Pelosi and other left media sources telling everybody not to worry. Oh, cause you tube won’t keep that kind of stuff up on there site cause they are lefty hippy crits. Nobody knew what was coming because we haven’t dealt with this before. Everyone’s wrong and everyone will see. The only facts are, this virus came from China, they hid it, the WHO is covering up for China and the most important fact is 700,000 jobless claims and rising. In a couple weeks when the money from the government checks is spent, your gonna start seeing the real issues when you can’t even go down the street without being robbed because of all the desperate hungry people. So keep your dirty politics for Facebook.


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I love how you find a cut and edited version from The Guardian. Yeah, they are super trust worthy. I just looked and I can’t even find 1 clip on you tube with Nancy Pelosi and other left media sources telling everybody not to worry. Oh, cause you tube won’t keep that kind of stuff up on there site cause they are lefty hippy crits. Nobody knew what was coming because we haven’t dealt with this before. Everyone’s wrong and everyone will see. The only facts are, this virus came from China, they hid it, the WHO is covering up for China and the most important fact is 700,000 jobless claims and rising. In a couple weeks when the money from the government checks is spent, your gonna start seeing the real issues when you can’t even go down the street without being robbed because of all the desperate hungry people. So keep your dirty politics for Facebook.

Sure, sure "there are fine people on both sides".  But there's only one guy in charge and it matters what he says the most.

 

It's not dirty politics, it's the responsibility of the position.  Take it or leave it.

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1/3 of the WORLDS new COVID-19 cases came from the United State yesterday. 

Which country is doing the MOST testing?

"As ye test them, you will find them."

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Nobody knew what was coming 

Yes they did.  Valuable time allowing for proactive measures was lost. 

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Sure, sure "there are fine people on both sides".  But there's only one guy in charge and it matters what he says the most.
 
It's not dirty politics, it's the responsibility of the position.  Take it or leave it.

Obviously it’s not up to Trump. If it was, there would be no shut down of anything. He would have let it run its course. The amount of dead people won’t equal what this has done to our economy. Besides, most people that are dying from this were gonna die soon anyways. Most people getting this are recovered or are recovering now.


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