I sold my F150. I think I’m going to try GM. Need suggestions

[F-150stxguy]

First of all, I liked the f150. I didn’t have any massive failures or Found On Road Dead, but I can’t say I was completely satisfied. 
 

The good of the experience was the motor. I had the 2.7 ecoboost. I loved it. Zero problems, GREAT gas mileage, by the time I sold it, it was at 23.7 lifetime average. With over 55 k on the odometer.  
 

The seats were actually very good, even though I had the closest to the basest of models. I could drive hours on end and not be fatigued, which I actually did. The handling was nimble, probably due to the reduced weight of the body being aluminum. 
 

with that said, I can’t say my experience was flaw free. I dealt with a horrible 10 speed transmission which never sorted itself. A constant humming noise that originated from the front of the truck the dealership either couldn’t figure out or didn’t care to (I always assumed they were waiting until I passed my power train warranty ha). One leaking oil pan that was switched out under warranty. 
 

Never any huge issues I guess, never left me stranded, but the experience wasn’t what I expected from the sales leader at the time. It was a solid and confident ride, it just didn’t leave me filled with confidence for the long term. And since I got a good deal I sold it. It was a crew cab, 4x4 2019. 
 

It was also my first turbo. I was and am throughly impressed by the torque. 
 

I know GM has the 5.3 and 6.2 but after reading about a lot of lifter failures, I want to stay away. 
 

GM’s 2.7 FOUR cylinder turbo has me very curious. Especially after hearing about the torque increase for the 2022 model years. The only thing that I’m scratching my head about, is why they choose to stick it with the dreaded 8 speed ? Do you guys think that might change next year? 
 

It’s pretty universally accepted that GM got the 10 speed right whilst Ford flubbed it. I’ve heard very few complaints of GM 10

speed owners. 
 

I bought a used car to hold me over, but the Turbo 4 has me considering a single cab Silverado with the 2 wheel drive (I moved to

the south west so I don’t really need the 4x4 capability) to keep weight down, OR, wait until the Chevy Colorado redesign. 
 

Im thinking a work truck or custom single cab, 2wd would move out with some authority and be fun to drive. Does GM still offer the limited slip rear? That would be nice to have I guess. 
 

If the Colorado is de-tuned I will stick with a Silverado - but I’m going to wait and see and continue to do research. 
 

One thing I love about the 4 cylinder is that it’s a single turbo. If and when it comes time to replace, I’d rather only have to replace one as opposed to two like in my f150. 
 

I know it hasn’t been out a long time but from searching I don’t see a whole lot of glaring issues. After reading about it, it seems like an awesome piece of technology from GM. 
 

Sorry for the disorganized, ADD rant, but I guess my main questions are. 
 

1. Do you think the 2.7 will eventually be paired with the 10’speed ? 
 

2. Will GM de-tune the 2.7 for the Colorado? 
 

3. Does GM still offer the limited slip for 2wd trucks? 
 

4. just how much power is possible with the 2.7? 400 plus pounds of torque at 1500 rpm is just incredible. Will it have the longevity? (I guess that might be way too early to ask) 

 

5. For those who do have the 2.7 - any complaints? 
 

 

Thank you for your time. 

[Phantom 4D]

GM does not offer a single cab truck in the U.S. It's only available in Mexico. I have no idea why other than poor sales in the U.S. I'm not versed in the turbo 2.7.  GM trucks don't have limited slip differentials. They use a locking differential. As far as the rest of your questions, maybe someone else will chime in. 

 

[Black02Silverado]

Not sure if GM will upgrade all platforms to the 10sp.  For one it makes to much sense and two they have to use up the supply of 8sp.

 

I don't have any experience with the 2.7.  I'm sure there will be those that own them to chime in.  It is a cool little 4 banger that is for sure.

 

I don't think GM will move it to the Colorado but then you never know. 

 

If you do come over from the dark side, welcome. 

[F-150stxguy]

Damn! No single cab? It let me build it on the site. That’s a bummer. But I’m not opposed to a double or crew cab In 2wd. 

[F-150stxguy]

Thank you BlackSilverado. I think I’m going to do it. Even when I had my Ford I was always cheating on her, shifty eyes especially when an RST went by. 
 

Pairing the 10 speed with everything DOES make too much sense, especially when it seems GM actually got it right. 

[redwngr]

They offer a regular cab with the 8ft box, but they don't offer the regular cab with the 'standard' (6.8') box.

The regular cab is currently only available in WT trim, and is restricted in the available motors.

 

 

From the current 2022 GM order guide:

AVAILABLE MODELS 2WD Short Bed Crew Cab (CC18543) 4WD Short Bed Crew Cab (CK18543) 2WD Standard Bed Crew Cab (CC18743) 4WD Standard Bed Crew Cab (CK18743) 2WD Standard Bed Double Cab (CC18753) 4WD Standard Bed Double Cab (CK18753) 2WD Long Bed Regular Cab (CC18903) 4WD Long Bed Regular Cab (CK18903)

Edited October 23, 2021 by redwngr

[redwngr]

 

2022 'refreshed' specs are now out for both chev and gmc. 

(6 speed is gone)

2.7 will stay with the 8 speed for the refreshed 2022's

 

 

TRANSMISSION & AXLE

Type:

Hydra-Matic 8-speed automatic (2.7L) Hydra-Matic 10-speed automatic (5.3L, 6.2L, 3.0L turbo-diesel)

Edited October 23, 2021 by redwngr

[black00ta]

2wd models will likely get the G80 locker in higher trim models only. The truck you're describing seems like a rare combo, but a cool one. Welcome!

[FrankIS]

The 10 speed was a colaboration between ford and GM. If you didnt like the 10 speed on the ford, you might not like it on the gm either. 

[f8l vnm]

They have all that low pitch whine. Good luck on you new GM truck mate. Share some pics 

[Z45]

I have an acquaintance who has the L4 Turbo in his work truck being a 2021 CC 4wd Silverado Custom.  He says its a good truck, does everything his last truck did with a V8.

[newdude]

15 hours ago, F-150stxguy said:

GM’s 2.7 FOUR cylinder turbo has me very curious. Especially after hearing about the torque increase for the 2022 model years. The only thing that I’m scratching my head about, is why they choose to stick it with the dreaded 8 speed ? Do you guys think that might change next year? 
 

It’s pretty universally accepted that GM got the 10 speed right whilst Ford flubbed it. I’ve heard very few complaints of GM 10

speed owners. 
 

I bought a used car to hold me over, but the Turbo 4 has me considering a single cab Silverado with the 2 wheel drive (I moved to

the south west so I don’t really need the 4x4 capability) to keep weight down, OR, wait until the Chevy Colorado redesign. 
 

Im thinking a work truck or custom single cab, 2wd would move out with some authority and be fun to drive. Does GM still offer the limited slip rear? That would be nice to have I guess. 
 

If the Colorado is de-tuned I will stick with a Silverado - but I’m going to wait and see and continue to do research. 
 

One thing I love about the 4 cylinder is that it’s a single turbo. If and when it comes time to replace, I’d rather only have to replace one as opposed to two like in my f150. 
 

I know it hasn’t been out a long time but from searching I don’t see a whole lot of glaring issues. After reading about it, it seems like an awesome piece of technology from GM. 
 

Sorry for the disorganized, ADD rant, but I guess my main questions are. 
 

1. Do you think the 2.7 will eventually be paired with the 10’speed ? 
 

2. Will GM de-tune the 2.7 for the Colorado? 
 

3. Does GM still offer the limited slip for 2wd trucks? 
 

4. just how much power is possible with the 2.7? 400 plus pounds of torque at 1500 rpm is just incredible. Will it have the longevity? (I guess that might be way too early to ask) 

 

5. For those who do have the 2.7 - any complaints? 
 

 

Thank you for your time. 

 

 

Yes, you can do a regular cab still.  WT trim only and 8ft box only.

 

Yes, GM still has the G80 locking diff.  2wd and 4wd.

 

The 8 speed is a much better unit in the new body trucks compared to the 15-18 trucks.  I have no issues with the 8 speed now and they seem to hold up fine aside from the bad tuning GM put in them 15-18 and the fluid 15-19.  

 

Being there is really no info on the next gen Colorado, I can only guesstimate that they will use the non high output version of the 2.7T.

 

2.7 won't get the 10 speed, if it does it will be for the next gen Silverado/Sierra.  

 

The 2022 HO 2.7T will be 310hp 420tq.  GM changed out the lower end bearings, stronger crank and 30% stiffer block.  

 

I've driven a couple of the current 2.7T.  Its as fast, if not slightly faster than my 2019 old body 5.3 was stock for stock to say 75mph.  V8 starts to take over from there.  The HO version should be even more impressive with the added torque.  

 

Also reliability.  We've sold a decent # of the 2.7T.  So far the only issues we have seen is the emissions purge system pump and a couple had the wiring harness chafe.  Other than that, no engine work (or trans work) on a single one yet.  

 

[F-150stxguy]

Thank you new dude, very helpful information. 
 

With the HO 2.7 having 420 pounds of torque and as low as 1500 rpm, I wouldn’t feel overweight with 4X4. 
 

I’ll probably have to custom order what I want if I want a single cab with the 2.7. 
 

Hell, knowing me I’ll end up with the 4x4 again lol. 
 

 

[uood8]

2 hours ago, F-150stxguy said:

Thank you new dude, very helpful information. 
 

With the HO 2.7 having 420 pounds of torque and as low as 1500 rpm, I wouldn’t feel overweight with 4X4. 
 

I’ll probably have to custom order what I want if I want a single cab with the 2.7. 
 

Hell, knowing me I’ll end up with the 4x4 again lol. 
 

 

 

The new 2.7 max torque will now be above 3k rpm, not at 1500 like the current 2.7. I came from a 2.7 Eco and you'll be severely disappointed with GM's performance unless you go with the 6.2.

[the wanderer]

On 10/22/2021 at 10:37 PM, FrankIS said:

The 10 speed was a colaboration between ford and GM. If you didnt like the 10 speed on the ford, you might not like it on the gm either. 

 

GM and Ford wrote their own software/tuning for the shared physical hardware. They may as well be completely different transmissions. I read nothing but good things about the GM 10 speed, but read some bad reports about the Ford.