Fords 2.7L Ecoboost

[Daryl LBZ]

They wouldn't use E85 since the EcoBoosts can't run on it.

Exactly.

[j-ten-ner]

The fastest car I've ever driven was a Ford Sierra Cosworth 2.8 V6 twin turbo with water injection (slightly modified as you can see...).

This thing is/was a rocket.

But even with 408 HP I can't imagine to put this engine in a truck and make it last.

 

so long

j-ten-ner

[SnakeEyeSS]

Meh. V6 with displacement close to a 4 cyl? No thanks. If I go Ford it'll be a 5.0.

Better hurry, I believe the plan is for this to eventually replace the 5.0, look at the specs

[MikeNH]

Probably. I do wonder if this will be as successful at the 3.5 though. That's at lest a big six, this is the same size as the four cyl you get in a Tacoma.

[surebuttercringe]

It will be a bad day for all truck owners when one of the big three stops offering a V8 because the others may follow suit if it succeeds.

[calgator73]

As long as they meet certain performance/fuel economy standards both unloaded and loaded with enough range to make it work I don't really care. I do love the visceral sound of a v8 though....

[surebuttercringe]

As long as they meet certain performance/fuel economy standards both unloaded and loaded with enough range to make it work I don't really care. I do love the visceral sound of a v8 though....

I don't either (previous truck was an EcoBoost), but there are a lot of people out there that this would upset because 'Murica!

[Daryl LBZ]

I like the V8 for reliability, and sound. For an example my truck has 232k miles on it, and the engine is showing no signs of slowing down anytime soon.

[truckofwinandawesome]

It will be a bad day for all truck owners when one of the big three stops offering a V8 because the others may follow suit if it succeeds.

 

Ford's already done that with their Large SUVs; the Expedition and Navigator pretty much got Neutered for 2015.

[Stex]

Yes what the uninformed, ignorant on the matter, do is look at the output #s and buy the ford turbo. What they do not know is that one has to stay in the turbo to get what you need. Real world mpg take a sharp hit.

 

Hell Acura tried this in their early RDX. 4 banger turbo. Had to drop it as word quickly spread on the Acura sites about the crazy bad mpg unless you stayed out of the turbo.

[Luster]

Yes what the uninformed, ignorant on the matter, do is look at the output #s and buy the ford turbo. What they do not know is that one has to stay in the turbo to get what you need. Real world mpg take a sharp hit.

 

Hell Acura tried this in their early RDX. 4 banger turbo. Had to drop it as word quickly spread on the Acura sites about the crazy bad mpg unless you stayed out of the turbo.

Not only is everything you said true, but...

 

The 2.7 has to do twice as much work as a 5.3.... twice the work equals half the engine life?

 

It won't hold up like a V8. No way.

[Cowpie]

Well, Ford may be on a love fest with it's EB engines, but GM is not far behind. Do a little research on the GM / Ricardo collaboration on the 3.2L EBDI engine. Is a multi fuel, but is specifically designed around E85. That engine thus far shows the same HP and Torque as the 6.6L Duramax diesel with equal mpg or better.

 

Cummins has been working on a 2.8L inline 4, again designed around E85, that puts out 450 lb of torque. So probably Mopar is also in the hunt for something similar to what Ford is doing.

 

Just because a smaller engine has to put out more power per volume, does not equate to half the life. All of it depends on the build features, especially the lower end. And the Ford EB engine, like the others I mentioned, reach their peak torque at half the RPM of the NA small block V8's. They are putting out more power per revolution of the engine.

[truckofwinandawesome]

Well, Ford may be on a love fest with it's EB engines, but GM is not far behind. Do a little research on the GM / Ricardo collaboration on the 3.2L EBDI engine. Is a multi fuel, but is specifically designed around E85. That engine thus far shows the same HP and Torque as the 6.6L Duramax diesel with equal mpg or better.

 

Cummins has been working on a 2.8L inline 4, again designed around E85, that puts out 450 lb of torque. So probably Mopar is also in the hunt for something similar to what Ford is doing.

 

Just because a smaller engine has to put out more power per volume, does not equate to half the life. All of it depends on the build features, especially the lower end. And the Ford EB engine, like the others I mentioned, reach their peak torque at half the RPM of the NA small block V8's. They are putting out more power per revolution of the engine.

 

that would be the ISF2.8 CM2220 engine; and it can have HP ratings as high as 160HP.

[Cowpie]

yeah, it will not have some get out of the hole hp as the larger engines, but where it counts, torque, pulling a load down the road, it will definitely put something like the 5.3L V8 to shame. Basically, you have something like this being similar to diesel variants. I had a 2006 Jeep Liberty with a 2.8L VM diesel. It was around 180 hp, but it laid out 350 lbs of torque. it had to have the 545 transmission that got put behind the 5.7L Hemi engine in the pickups.

 

But I am chomping at the bit to see one of the GM 3.2L EBDI E85 engines up close. They have put out numerous reports of getting it to hp and torque levels of the 6.6L Duramax diesel with fuel economy numbers that beat anything running on gas in a pickup now. Now that is impressive to say the least.

[kstruckcountry]

Maybe with some of the recent tech advances the tiny twin turbo motors could live as long as a larger naturally aspirated or even turbo motors. But make the guts tougher in a naturally aspirated motor (or larger turbo motor) and it will last longer too! That said I want boost on my old pickup, lol.