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SouthpawHD Enthusiast

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It's not the tow weight, it's the payload you'll be over on. These trucks max out on payload way before towing capacity.

BlackZ71Silverado Senior Enthusiast

BlackZ71Silverado

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Sounds like you are another who bought the wrong truck to tow your toys. Seems to be going on a lot lately for some reason.

You need to buy a 3500HD to safely load your truck and tow a giant 5th wheel. You are going to be severely over capacity with truck loaded, passangers, and the camper loaded.

 

Please do not put people in danger, go buy the proper truck for the job.

 

 

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Jon A Senior Enthusiast

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Yeah, even empty that trailer is pushing the limits. Also note, while RV companies are notorious for selling people more trailer than they can handle, even Jayco only recommends that trailer with a 6.2 Max Tow.

calgator73 Senior Enthusiast

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When you're shopping...ignore the catalogue specs. If you're ordering call the factory if not go by the sticker.

nards444 Senior Enthusiast

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Sounds like you are another who bought the wrong truck to tow your toys. Seems to be going on a lot lately for some reason.

You need to buy a 3500HD to safely load your truck and tow a giant 5th wheel. You are going to be severely over capacity with truck loaded, passangers, and the camper loaded.

 

Please do not put people in danger, go buy the proper truck for the job.

 

 

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Agreed but a 3/4 would more than do the job on this.

Jon A Senior Enthusiast

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Yeah, and if it's only a couple times a year a 3/4 ton would be overkill. These trailers are specifically made to be pulled by 1/2 tons. If you've got a 3/4 ton, why not get a nicer, heavier trailer?

 

I think that's exactly the kind of use Nissan was talking about with the new Titan. It'll be interesting to see where they rate its payload and towing capacity. With the arbitrarily added 400 lbs of payload, the 2015 GM NHT's could pull this trailer and stay within the limits (if as-built specs match the catalog) but a little more payload capacity wouldn't hurt.

SouthCo Senior Enthusiast

SouthCo

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When you're shopping...ignore the catalogue specs. If you're ordering call the factory if not go by the sticker.

Yep, some of the weights stated online or in catalogues are lower than actual weights...

nards444 Senior Enthusiast

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Yeah, and if it's only a couple times a year a 3/4 ton would be overkill. These trailers are specifically made to be pulled by 1/2 tons. If you've got a 3/4 ton, why not get a nicer, heavier trailer?

 

I think that's exactly the kind of use Nissan was talking about with the new Titan. It'll be interesting to see where they rate its payload and towing capacity. With the arbitrarily added 400 lbs of payload, the 2015 GM NHT's could pull this trailer and stay within the limits (if as-built specs match the catalog) but a little more payload capacity wouldn't hurt.

I dont know about saying these trailers are built to be hauled by 1/2 tons. The problem is not the gross weight its the hitch weight,by the time you put two bodies in the truck your already over the payload weight. You only have 3-400lbs left tops. Doesnt mean it cant do it, but you will bust the listed limit.

 

I own a fifth wheel and most of them arent being hauled by half tons, probably for a reason.

 

But a couple times a year, maybe you can get away with it.

redwngr Senior Enthusiast

redwngr

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I dont know about saying these trailers are built to be hauled by 1/2 tons. The problem is not the gross weight its the hitch weight,by the time you put two bodies in the truck your already over the payload weight. You only have 3-400lbs left tops. Doesnt mean it cant do it, but you will bust the listed limit.

 

I own a fifth wheel and most of them arent being hauled by half tons, probably for a reason.

 

But a couple times a year, maybe you can get away with it.

I certainly don't disagre that pin weight is likely to be the issue, but 1/2 ton tow ratings assume there will be two front seat passengers, but no allowance for cargo. 3/4 assume driver only.

 

From the 2015 OM:

 

Trailer weight rating (TWR) for 1500
series trucks is calculated assuming
the tow vehicle has the driver, a
front seat passenger, and all
required trailering equipment.
Weight of additional optional
equipment, passengers, and
cargo in the tow vehicle must be
subtracted from the trailer weight
rating.
Trailer weight rating (TWR) for
2500 and 3500 series trucks is
calculated assuming the tow vehicle
has only the driver but all required
trailering equipment. Weight of
additional optional equipment,
passengers, and cargo in the tow
vehicle must be subtracted from the
trailer weight rating.
Jon A Senior Enthusiast

Jon A

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I dont know about saying these trailers are built to be hauled by 1/2 tons.

 

I wasn’t talking about 5th wheels in general, I was talking about that specific line of trailers. Their “Lightweight Fun” line: http://www.jayco.com/products/fifth-wheels/2015-eagle-ht/ Specifically built lightweight for 1/2 tons.

 

If you have a big manly truck, they have several other lines with dry pin weights of 2000-3000 lbs. They may look the same to the untrained eye, but I'm guessing the heavy sucker will be nicer to live in if you spend a lot of time in it (and have a truck that can pull it).

Stoddard Enthusiast

Stoddard

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I say judge for yourself. Buying a diesel is a waste for a 28'. 30', old heavy camper yeah. These new ones are light and 4 wheel brakes on the trailer work great. If you buy a 6.0 gas 2500 you will kill on mpg and power. Dunno why gm can't put a 6.2 in the 2500 yet.

 

Just make sure your tires are OK. They put 4 plies on at the factory.

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