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My Denali with the standard bed 4x4 is probably lowest in terms of payload but it still puts in work a couple of times a week. I transport about 50 crates which weigh about 30 pounds each. Truck still pulls like a champ with the 6.2 but the rear seems a little bouncy on the freeway. Is this the tires ? or the truck telling me there is too much weight. By the way I've had 60 crates and truck was till fine but again very bouncy. this truck works Thanks guys.

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Start simple look at your yellow tag inside drivers door see what you have available for payload. Then look at your tires are they P or LT tires? LT tire are truck tires and hold weight better that could be some of the bounce you feel. Look at your spring packs next time your loaded up see if there arched or flattened out. Does the load squat the back end of your truck?

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What is your criteria on going over? The more weight you carry the more wear and tear on the components like axle, or higher weight and higher speed puts more stress on the tires. I bet on GM really knows where the breaking point is.

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I'd say that you can easy go 1000lbs over the payload sticker.

The number on the sticker is just a ballpark by GM, I think.

 

so long

j-ten-ner

I will say that on more than one occasion I have hauled more than the maximum payload by more than a 1000 pounds. I do run LT tires on the truck.

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It's not something I would do regularly but it should be fine. Heck I had a '86 K10 short box and I put more in the bed of that truck then most people have towed. Pallet and a half of shingles. Each bundled weighed 77 lbs at 48 bundles a pallet so 77 lbs X 72 bundles 5,544 lbs. Not to mention the 3 adults in the cab.

 

Hind sight probably not a good idea but it made a 25 mile trip just fine. Slow but fine. Unfortunately that was a time before cell phones.

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I will say that on more than one occasion I have hauled more than the maximum payload by more than a 1000 pounds. I do run LT tires on the truck.

 

Well, actually it was meant as a little sarcasm...lol

 

:)

so long

j-ten-ner

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I've gone over a few times, you're just taking a big risk. Get into an accident and the cop finds out you're over payload capacity and I'm sure you could face a few different fines and charges

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It's not something I would do regularly but it should be fine. Heck I had a '86 K10 short box and I put more in the bed of that truck then most people have towed. Pallet and a half of shingles. Each bundled weighed 77 lbs at 48 bundles a pallet so 77 lbs X 72 bundles 5,544 lbs. Not to mention the 3 adults in the cab.

 

Hind sight probably not a good idea but it made a 25 mile trip just fine. Slow but fine. Unfortunately that was a time before cell phones.

 

I see that Jimmy loads a truck like I do.f1792719-151f-4637-9b1c-78745085edcd.jpg

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I've had 2,300 in the bed of my '13 Silverado a few times.....a little soft to say the least

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Thanks guys. My payload sticker is 1398 kind of low.

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My Denali with the standard bed 4x4 is probably lowest in terms of payload but it still puts in work a couple of times a week. I transport about 50 crates which weigh about 30 pounds each. Truck still pulls like a champ with the 6.2 but the rear seems a little bouncy on the freeway. Is this the tires ? or the truck telling me there is too much weight. By the way I've had 60 crates and truck was till fine but again very bouncy. this truck works Thanks guys.

Personally I try to stay close to my payload but what I like to know more is my actual axle weight. I would take time to go over a cat scale at a truck stop with your tuck unloaded, full of fuel, and with you inside to see what your true weight is. Also my tires are rated at 80psi and 3000lb load limit so when I tow or load the bed they have at least 50pounds in them. I feel my change in tire helped me a lot bit your tires may be just fine. Do you pump up the pressure on your tires when you transport the crates? Maybe a set of Hellwig helper spring would help you with the bounce or even a Air Lift brand system.

 

Here are a few times my payload limit has be exceeded

 

1600lb of soil, 200lb decked system, 150lb tools, 80lb dog, full tank of gas, and my large ass .....Total over 2k

1500lb of dirt and the Decked system might be a little over the rated limit

 

Two 5hp compressors and a trailer each compressor half full of water I figure around 1800lb in the bed

A few 5hp air compressors

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You are correct with your Denali (I assume 1500 series) having the least payload capabilities. The more options that are added to a vehicle the less payload such as larger engines, 4x4 components, ungraded interiors all add weight to your truck. There should be a sticker located in your glovebox that states the allowable cargo weight for your specific truck. This will be the maximum weight allowed in the pickup box.

 

The drivetrains of today are very powerful, the problem isn't about getting to and maintaining speed. It's really about stopping and how your truck may react when it's overloaded or severely overloaded. Some of the components that we tend to forget about: ABS, Traction Control Systems, Trailer Sway Control, Tires (Properly Inflated). Other items to consider would be the axle size and more importantly the wheel bearings and lastly will your insurance provider cover you and your vehicle when things might go south on your hauling ventures?

 

If you're overloading your truck on a regular basis it might be time to upgrade to a 2500 Denali.

 

A few years ago I had a customer from Saskatchewan drive to Alberta (600 miles each way) and pick up an Electric motor in a crate that weighed about 2200-lbs. They were driving an extended cab 2WD ½ ton and after loading the crate the trailer receiver was about 2" from the pavement. After asking them multiple times if they were OK with it.....they set off into the night blinding everyone coming towards them. After about 2 hours and driving the posted speed limit of 65/MPH (110/kmh)....The truck experienced catastrophic failure and the RR bearing overheated and the Wheel sheared the axle off and tore through the fender. After waiting for a flatbed tow truck until 4AM they never did find the wheel with the brake still attached, but did manage to bend the truck frame.........So still want to overload that beautiful Denali 1500? :nonod:

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Oh good Lord.....

 

 

can I go over the payload sticker?

 

Of course--just don't tell the internet...that's where all the weight police live (as you can see)!

 

Seriously, with those loads you're well within reason (probably around the capacity of an NHT). You have the exact same axle, brakes, etc, as the NHT so there's no need to worry about a wheel falling off or anything of the sort...

 

Put in a set of airbags and it will fix your ride. The bouncy ride is caused by the axle contacting the bumpstops way too hard and too often combined with an excessively low ride frequency in the rear relative to the front due to lack of spring rate for the sprung mass over the rear tires. Airbags fix that. If you don't have MRC I'd suggest upgrading the shocks as well but the airbags are 90% of it. The biggest difference in the NHT suspension is the rear springs and airbags are dramatically better than those springs. The NHT has specific shocks but they're still crap compared with good aftermarket shocks (or the MRC shocks).

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You have a good point.

In case that he gets pulled over by the police or if he is involved in an accident, he can say:

"...this guy on the internet said that I'm well within reason...".

Geez, supposed that he's got a smart phone he could pull up the you tube video of a Tundra pulling the space shuttle. "...see this, officer...?"

 

lol

 

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j-ten-ner

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